Pitchers Throw Too Hard [Fixed 9.44D]

[DDog9999]

Might be a bug depending on what you all think. I have noticed that too many pitchers throw 99-101, and I even saw a guy once 103-105. Not so much a major bug, but it seems that it should be toned where only a handful throw 100 mph, and majority shouldn't throw over 95. what does everyone else thing? thanks for the great work on a great game clay!

[ohms_law]

how many is "too many"? and does this occur all the time, or only occasionally?

[Rongar]

Might be a bug depending on what you all think. I have noticed that too many pitchers throw 99-101, and I even saw a guy once 103-105. Not so much a major bug, but it seems that it should be toned where only a handful throw 100 mph, and majority shouldn't throw over 95. what does everyone else thing? thanks for the great work on a great game clay!

Wouldn't be surprised...ball players growing bigger & stronger all the time - probably ate up all their spinach when they were kids, and steroids now they're older.

Nah, I don't mind 105 m.p.h. pitches...as long as I don't have to face 'em !:D

[Frost]

yeah i too noticed that there are alot of pitchers who throw upper 90's+. i never paid much attention though, because i had a reliever in AA who could throw 101-103, yet his power was only rated 83, so he wasn't striking out that many guys.

[Clay Dreslough]

I had a few complaints that the velocities weren't high enough. So I bumped it up in Version 9.15. Perhaps I went too far. I'll post a poll (http://forum.sportsmogul.com/showthread.php?t=118930).

[HoustonGM]

I've always seen pretty decent velocity numbers.

EDIT: HM, perhaps it could be SLIGHTLY lowered...or at least, have there be less really high ones..In just 2007, theres one guy with 100-102...which is outrageous. Perhaps there should be an upper limit to average velocity...like 99.

There's 39 pitchers who were selected in the pre-2007 draft with average velocities of 95 or higher....

I think it needs to be toned down...with most pitchers being between 85 and 94, 95+ should get progressively lower, and there should be no pitchers with an average velocity above 99. The only pitchers with average velocity below 80 should be knuckleballers. Relievers should tend to have a high velocity than starters.

[MrMackie]

Only a handful of pitchers have ever been clocked at 100+, though Zumaya this season has been clocked at 102, I believe (no guarantee that that's the actual speed). Juan Berenguer, who pitched in the late 70s-early 90s for the Mets, Tigers, Twins, and a few others was clocked at 101 in the late 80s if I recall correctly. In 1974 Nolan Ryan was clocked at just under 101 mph. It's worth noting that guys who throw this hard are not only very rare, but often have serious control issues.

In the game, a guy's top speed on the player editor screen seems to be a benchmark that's +/- 2 mph. That is, I've had pitchers whose top speed was listed as 99 but was occasionally clocked at 101. Most of his fastballs were 98-99, with maybe 10-15% hitting 100.

[HoustonGM]

The velocity in the player editor is the average. On the skills page, and in sortable stats, a 99 would show as 98-100.

[MrMackie]

Yeah, I'm just saying it occasionally goes +2 above avg. instead of just +1. My basic rules are: 1. No starting pitcher has an average speed above 97. It's just too rare that a SP hits 99+. 2. No relief pitcher has an average speed above 99.

[HoustonGM]

From what I've seen of Justin Verlander, his fastball usually hovers around 97+...although I could be wrong.

[MrMackie]

I watched a Tigers/Indians game about a month ago in which Verlander started. He was clocked at 99 a few times and even at 100 once or twice, but the announcers admitted that the gun might've been a tad fast. I'm not really sure what the most accurate way to get a reading on a pitched ball is.

[ohms_law]

I watched a Tigers/Indians game about a month ago in which Verlander started. He was clocked at 99 a few times and even at 100 once or twice, but the announcers admitted that the gun might've been a tad fast. I'm not really sure what the most accurate way to get a reading on a pitched ball is.

Being an electronics technician, and having repaired radar systems for several years I think that I do. The important thing is to get as close to directly behind the plate as possible, while maintaining a view of the ball for as long as possible... basically until it crosses the plate.
I think that I remeber reading somewhere that the balls speed crossing the threashold of the plate is what people are trying to measure. That being the case, the important thing to to get the angle correct. Especially for breaking pitches (moving away or twords the gun, as the ball crosses the threashold), since that movement will impact the perceived speed directly.
anyway, average pitch speeds over the mid-90's should be fairly rare. If a pitcher ever comes along that averages over 100 MPH per pitch...

[HoustonGM]

I wouldn't say that average pitch speeds over 90 should be rare. I think the majority of pitchers throw between 90-92. Over 93-95 should be rare..

[ohms_law]

yea, me too. fixed (edited)