A few thoughts, Caps, Canadians and merchandise ohh, my!

[Yamato]

While I do like the "equalize cities" option. How about a few other options in addtiont to it.

1) Salary Cap - it can be set by the user and can be set to be "fixed" or "increasing" (a cap that incrementaly goes up over time)
The user can set the cap.
2)Luxury tax - you set the threshold for a luxury tax to be paid to other teams.
3)Revenue sharing. a) Even splitting of TV revenue (ala NFL)
b) Splitting gate 50/50 between home and visiting team.

A second thought is for another stream of revenue for teams

MERCHANDISE
Every club gets X amout of money every season from team merchandise.
Selling hats, bats, shirts, anything with the team logo on it.
How much you get would depend on the popularity of your team.
factors
a)team success - playoff appearences, World Series wins etc
b)the presence of "popular" players on your team (thumbs up guys)
Of course the size of your market (if no equalize cities) would also be a factor.

PS - Why is Toronto and Montreal so poor? The "avg income" for the cities is far lower than any American city. Those places have a standard of living as high as any town in the US, Toronto especially.

[TheNamelessPoet]

While I do like the "equalize cities" option. How about a few other options in addtiont to it.

1) Salary Cap - it can be set by the user and can be set to be "fixed" or "increasing" (a cap that incrementaly goes up over time)
The user can set the cap.
2)Luxury tax - you set the threshold for a luxury tax to be paid to other teams.
3)Revenue sharing. a) Even splitting of TV revenue (ala NFL)
b) Splitting gate 50/50 between home and visiting team.

A second thought is for another stream of revenue for teams

MERCHANDISE
Every club gets X amout of money every season from team merchandise.
Selling hats, bats, shirts, anything with the team logo on it.
How much you get would depend on the popularity of your team.
factors
a)team success - playoff appearences, World Series wins etc
b)the presence of "popular" players on your team (thumbs up guys)
Of course the size of your market (if no equalize cities) would also be a factor.

PS - Why is Toronto and Montreal so poor? The "avg income" for the cities is far lower than any American city. Those places have a standard of living as high as any town in the US, Toronto especially.

Love the sugestions...
As for toronto and Montreal... They stink because of fan loyalty. Once you get them to have a winning team they will go up but otherwise their loyalty stinks

[natedawg219]

These suggestions are already in the polls that ohm's posted.

[Rongar]

Love the sugestions...
As for toronto and Montreal... They stink because of fan loyalty. Once you get them to have a winning team they will go up but otherwise their loyalty stinks

Poet, I believe the BM fan loyalty AI, must be based on reality, 'cos let's face it, baseball isn't Canada's national game...I can imagine that Americans loyally
attend their local Major League games, win or lose, terrorist threats, $5 hot-dogs, whatever...the fact that the "take" from all MLB games goes up each year, could indicate fan loyalty...on the other hand, it could mean a loyalist, royally gouged!

I wish I could say that Canadians are loyal to their national sport, ice hockey, but I doubt it...if they're like me, they sit watching their favourites on t.v. ...I mean, there's all that snow outside! :)

[pacers7isback]

Canadians are more loyal to ice hockey than americans are to anything, including mcdonalds.

BTW, I would love for more options when running leagues, especially salary caps.

[Yamato]

Guys, guys gusy, I'm not talking about loyalty. I'm talking about AVG INCOME for the people in the city.

[ohms_law]

Guys, guys gusy, I'm not talking about loyalty. I'm talking about AVG INCOME for the people in the city.

because, it is actually lower.

[dolfanar]

First of all you need to seperate standard of living from income because of another little thing called "cost of Living". Cost of living in montreal is one of the lowest in North america, which is why the average income can be low and yet the standard of living can be so high (one of the highest in fact). Standard of living also accounts for things like availability and quality of health care, social services, etc... BBM (and MLB) isn't concerned with standard of living, just in total disposable income. I'm, not sure if Mogul figures after tax or pre-tax income as well, which would make quite a differance as well. In any case, in terms of disposable net income, Montrealers will tend to be on the low end of the spectrum.

In the case of Toronto, it's just undervalued. My guess is that those stats are from the days of the $.65 CDN dollar anyway, so fresh data would probably adjust this "problem" accordingly. Toronto is one of the biggest markets in North America. Not on the level of a New York or LA, but definitely in the next bracket on the level of a Chicago. And the cost of living is among the highest in the country (Vancouver would probably be higher mind you).

To give you an example, my salary in Montreal was in the 45K range. The same job, in the same size company would have to pay me in the 65K range in order to maintain even close to the same standard of living in Toronto (my rent alone for an appartment in the city would go from 700 to 2000 a month). The same job in new York city would pay me 65K US, though I'm not sure if I could still afford the same standard of living.

[MrMackie]

PS - Why is Toronto and Montreal so poor? The "avg income" for the cities is far lower than any American city. Those places have a standard of living as high as any town in the US, Toronto especially.

Higher taxes? Net, as opposed to gross, income...

[meacon99]

Higher taxes? Net, as opposed to gross, income...

Exactly. Canada's taxes are higher which is going to make their total income lower.

[Rongar]

Guys, guys gusy, I'm not talking about loyalty. I'm talking about AVG INCOME for the people in the city.

Yam, I know that you were'n't talking about "fan loyalty", but as Poet pointed out, it is another factor besides average income, to account for the BM's low fan attendance for Canadian cities...even rich Canucks like myself won't pay to watch my team losing (Come to think of it, that's how I became rich, by not payng to watch anything!);)

Anyway, as I've suggested in another post, there's a way round this. Whilst in "Commissioner's Mode" (League/Options) simply boost your stadium's capacity(League/Stadium Editor). True, by resorting to the "Commish" you lessen your chances of gaining the BM Managers' HOF, but if you run a Canadian team, you ain't likely to land there, anyway !:)

[TheNamelessPoet]

Poet, I believe the BM fan loyalty AI, must be based on reality, 'cos let's face it, baseball isn't Canada's national game...I can imagine that Americans loyally
attend their local Major League games, win or lose, terrorist threats, $5 hot-dogs, whatever...the fact that the "take" from all MLB games goes up each year, could indicate fan loyalty...on the other hand, it could mean a loyalist, royally gouged!

I wish I could say that Canadians are loyal to their national sport, ice hockey, but I doubt it...if they're like me, they sit watching their favourites on t.v. ...I mean, there's all that snow outside! :)

Toronto was the first team EVER to draw 4 million fans. Not only that... they did it 3 years in a row!!! even in the strike year they drew over 2.5 million.

[SirKodiak]

Given it's location, I wonder how many of the Blue Jays fans are from the US. Buffalo and Rochester seem closer to Toronto than any other MLB cities.

[Rongar]

Toronto was the first team EVER to draw 4 million fans. Not only that... they did it 3 years in a row!!! even in the strike year they drew over 2.5 million.

Poet, were those high attendances during TO's glory years (early 90's)?...if so, that would support our view (yours & mine) that Canadians are "fair weather" fans:)