um... pedro's... RICH

[TheNamelessPoet]

Anyone see anything wrong with his pay here??? NOT QUITE acurate. I just started and have not even simmed 1 day!!!

[Sanji Watsuki]

It (I think) often contours payroll to the team's budget. Had Pedro been on say... the Florida Marlins or the Devil Rays he would be paid far less.

[SirKodiak]

Pedro's real salary:

1993 Los Angeles Dodgers $119,000
1994 Montreal Expos $200,000
1995 Montreal Expos $270,000
1996 Montreal Expos $315,000
1997 Montreal Expos $3,615,000
1998 Boston Red Sox $7,575,000
1999 Boston Red Sox $11,100,000
2000 Boston Red Sox $11,500,000
2001 Boston Red Sox $13,000,000
2002 Boston Red Sox $14,000,000
2003 Boston Red Sox $15,500,000
2004 Boston Red Sox $17,500,000
2005 New York Mets $10,875,000

I'm using 9.44B, and when I started up the 2000 season I got this (notice the ratings are different):

[ohms_law]

Incidentally, I was going to ask about ratings. Do they seem lower in general to anyone else?

[TheNamelessPoet]

It (I think) often contours payroll to the team's budget. Had Pedro been on say... the Florida Marlins or the Devil Rays he would be paid far less.

do u mean makes up its own price when u start in a past year???

[ohms_law]

humm, it might. I'm not sure, as I've never honestly paid attention. Is salary data in the Lahman database?

[Clay Dreslough]

Salary data is not in the Lahman Database. So in historical years it calculates salary based:

1) The player's talent
2) What the team can afford

#2 seems a bit unfair, but the truth is that rich teams do overpay in real life. And if I didn't do that, the rich teams would have a ton of money left over to spend. You can pretty much eliminate factor #2 by going into Advanced Tools and clicking 'Calculate Salaries' to give everyone a new contract.

Clay

P.S. For the record, I would probably pay $29 million for the 2000 season of Pedro Martinez. That's only about 12% more than A-Rod's making this year. And A-Rod won't win 6 playoff games.

[MrMackie]

There's also the League Settings/Salary Demands setting. Shouldn't altering that result in a proportional increase/decrease in salary? I.e., were that set at -50%, Pedro would be earning $14.7m instead (assuming it's at 0% now)?

[ohms_law]

humm, you may want to tweak things slightly. I can see the main "problem" in instances like this being that the game is evaluating certain players at their peak, if you know what I mean.
The #1 evaluation could probably stand to be normalised somewhat, is what i'm saying.

I will say this. I've looked at salaries payed out in sims from 1901-2006 quite a bit, and their always pretty good.

[HoustonGM]

Hm, is it feasible to one day add salaries to the data files? I'm pretty sure you can get them up to a certain year from baseball-reference, although I could be wrong. (Not a big deal, and I don't even play historical leagues, so I don't particularly care one way or the other..just wondering.)

[SirKodiak]

Salary data is not in the Lahman Database. So in historical years it calculates salary based:

1) The player's talent
2) What the team can afford

#2 seems a bit unfair, but the truth is that rich teams do overpay in real life. And if I didn't do that, the rich teams would have a ton of money left over to spend. You can pretty much eliminate factor #2 by going into Advanced Tools and clicking 'Calculate Salaries' to give everyone a new contract.

Clay

P.S. For the record, I would probably pay $29 million for the 2000 season of Pedro Martinez. That's only about 12% more than A-Rod's making this year. And A-Rod won't win 6 playoff games.

Just wondering why the 2 Pedros have different ratings since they come from the same database, and why their salary varies so much given how little their stats do?

[ohms_law]

and why their salary varies so much given how little their stats do?
This part at least can probably be attributed to #2, which seems to vary somewhat each time you start a game (different amounts of expenses, and whatnot).

[TheJay]

Hm, is it feasible to one day add salaries to the data files? I'm pretty sure you can get them up to a certain year from baseball-reference, although I could be wrong. (Not a big deal, and I don't even play historical leagues, so I don't particularly care one way or the other..just wondering.)

IIRC, the salaries on baseball-reference only go back to 1985. It would help somewhat for historical leagues if inflation, etc., was also included (or if the salaries were adjusted to present-day finances) but I'd think ideally it would go back at least to when free agency started. I have no idea where you would get the salaries from the 70's and early 80's though.

[SirKodiak]

IIRC, the salaries on baseball-reference only go back to 1985. It would help somewhat for historical leagues if inflation, etc., was also included (or if the salaries were adjusted to present-day finances) but I'd think ideally it would go back at least to when free agency started. I have no idea where you would get the salaries from the 70's and early 80's though.
And Doug Pappas, who was doing the research that supplied those numbers, passed away.