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GSpencer
09-04-2006, 07:49 PM
Submarine is missing in the Pitching Style area of the Player Editor dialog. I didn't know if it was just called "underhand", but I figure there's a difference.
HoustonGM
09-04-2006, 08:24 PM
In my rosters, I put all the submarine guys as "underhand" or "sidearm."

Chad Bradford's got to be underhand. :p
SirKodiak
09-04-2006, 08:44 PM
I would assume submarine = underhand, but do not agree with that IRL, but might work fine for the game. I remember a guy that pitched for the Cardinals for part of a season (but not the name) that was supposed to have a 'true submarine' pitching style, and it was almost exactly as a fast-pitch softball pitcher throws. Their were underhand pitchers in the early days that I doubt are what we call submarine pitchers today. Bradford, Tekulve, Quisenberry are what more modern-day submariners are (and much different than sidearmers) and in game terms, I'd guess underhand would work fine for submarine. I don't remember if Clay ever defined it anywhere or not.
Red Sox Fan 734
09-04-2006, 10:48 PM
Chad Bradford's got to be underhand. :p
LOL
Clay Dreslough
09-05-2006, 11:45 AM
I'm treating "Submarine" and "Underhand" as the same thing. Bill James uses "Submarine" in his Pitcher Codes, and he doesn't have an entry for Underhand. So maybe I should just change the name.

Clay

P.S. The "Pitcher Code" article is at the end of the Neyer/James Guide to Pitchers. It's the same article that has a photo of Josh Becket and where James talks about how Beckett "did" become a star.

:)
FRENCHREDSOX
09-05-2006, 11:55 AM
P.S. The "Pitcher Code" article is at the end of the Neyer/James Guide to Pitchers. It's the same article that has a photo of Josh Becket and where James talks about how Beckett "did" become a star.

:)

I assume that pre-2006 Red Cross Sox "star" not the "Eric Milton" HR impersonator of today ;)
HoustonGM
09-05-2006, 01:50 PM
Does the pitching style actually affect anything, or is it just cosmetic?
Clay Dreslough
09-05-2006, 02:00 PM
Cosmetic.
MrMackie
09-05-2006, 06:45 PM
Well, it's not really even cosmetic...the only pitching animation is overhand. ;)
FRENCHREDSOX
09-06-2006, 03:43 AM
Verbal cosmetics maybe real cosmetics for 2008 (If Clay can a sponsporship deal with L'Oreal°)