Unable to Reach Sportsmogul

[Sanji Watsuki]

For some reason, all day I was unable to get to sportsmogul.com yet I was able to get to BMO.

This is the first time I've been able to get in all day.

I got a "The page cannot be displayed" every time I've tried, yet every other website I tried worked.

Just saying. :D

[Dee Dreslough]

Yeah.. We've been having this problem off and on for weeks with the web server for the main website and vbulletin dying horribly on a daily basis for no apparent reason. We're not sure why it keeps doing this, but today we just blew it and didn't notice it was down until I got an email from another user just now. For some reason, the BMO webserver isn't affected....just this one. We're still trying to figure out what's going on. My personal technical opinion is that the server is haunted, or a vampire, or both, but Clay and Ian won't let me submerge it in holy water just yet or jam an ashwood spike into the CD-ROM drive. They're no fun. :)

I'm sorry about the site being down. I know it's a frustrating pain...because it's a frustrating pain for us too. :)

-Dee Dreslough

[Sanji Watsuki]

Ah. Thanks for the explaination.

[robinhoodnik]

Maybe adding another moderator or two that are here more often would help with the lag in finding out about these crashes sooner? I pm'e two of them but they must not have checked in yet today. One user pm'ed me that it's been down since the wee hours of this morning.

[FRENCHREDSOX]

Maybe adding another moderator or two that are here more often would help with the lag in finding out about these crashes sooner? I pm'e two of them but they must not have checked in yet today. One user pm'ed me that it's been down since the wee hours of this morning.

Ditto - I am on another continent so I log in at weird (US wise) times the thing was down 15 hours! But I started trying 5am EST (2am PST) which is like 11 am my time - does that make sense ? I sent an email to Clay when I eventually found his address but that must have been what 6 hours after the breakdown

sorry for the lateness:o

[HoustonGM]

Maybe adding another moderator or two that are here more often would help with the lag in finding out about these crashes sooner? I pm'e two of them but they must not have checked in yet today. One user pm'ed me that it's been down since the wee hours of this morning.
Like me!? :p

Seriously, I went through withdrawal today. :p

[robinhoodnik]

Anyone. So long as it's someone who comes here frequently. I come several times a day most days. I'd do it, if you're here a lot you'd be good too Houston.

[HoustonGM]

Anyone. So long as it's someone who comes here frequently. I come several times a day most days. I'd do it, if you're here a lot you'd be good too Houston.
I'm here nonstop practically...:p

[FRENCHREDSOX]

Anyone. So long as it's someone who comes here frequently. I come several times a day most days. I'd do it, if you're here a lot you'd be good too Houston.

Very true always a Red Sox fan on hand (since August at least....)



Ye GM is also always around ....;)

[Red Sox Fan 734]

Im almost always on. Today i was so bored with the site down:p

[FRENCHREDSOX]

Im almost always on. Today i was so bored with the site down:p

Teaches you to BE a red sox fan at least that is one good point (in being a potential) moderator - everyone knows that you will be free in October...:(

[Sanji Watsuki]

If I am bored, then I work on my dynasty.
If I work on my dynasty, then I go to Sportsmogul.com
If I cannot go to Sportsmogul.com, then I cannot work on my dynasty

Stupid Geometry finding ways into my life...

[HoustonGM]

If I am bored, then I work on my dynasty.
If I work on my dynasty, then I go to Sportsmogul.com
If I cannot go to Sportsmogul.com, then I cannot work on my dynasty

Stupid Geometry finding ways into my life...
You can still work on it. That's what I did. Just write it in a Word document and save it and then copy/paste when the site works.

[Sanji Watsuki]

You can still work on it. That's what I did. Just write it in a Word document and save it and then copy/paste when the site works.

Same. My statements phailed. XD

[boomboom]

I actually got frenchredsox pm this morning...but i was on my way to work...

Just e-mail dee if you have any problems at:

dee at sportsmogul dot com

or clay at

cjd at sportsmogul dot com

Thanks!

[FRENCHREDSOX]

Woops I must PM quite a few this morning sorry....

[Casey59]

Thanks Dee!
For what it's worth, I ran into trouble late Saturday night (EDT) and was shutout for about an hour . . .today, as you know, was a total mess.
I played with my baseball cards instead today . . . **** I'm just a really old kid I guess.

[SirKodiak]

That was the 3rd night in 2-3 weeks that I haven't been able to log on (I tried probably many times each occurance, but I know that at 0200-0400 Pacific time it was down). Last time it happened, I went to a site and pinged and tracerouted www.sportsmogal.com and there was definitely a clear path.

Bah, I just remembered I have a good ping and trace utility on this machine, didn't have to find a site for it, oh well.

[FRENCHREDSOX]

Last time it happened, I went to a site and pinged and tracerouted www.sportsmogal.com and there was definitely a clear path.

Bah, I just remembered I have a good ping and trace utility on this machine, didn't have to find a site for it, oh well.

Um,just because I dont be stupid & because it happens usually when you & I are on (as well as others) what do you mean by ping n trace ?

[SirKodiak]

ping: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ping
trace: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trace_route

[FRENCHREDSOX]

thank you ...funny BMO leagues DIDNT go down thats how I contacted BoomBoom/Robinhoodnik etc

[SirKodiak]

I was just looking at Who's Online (http://forum.sportsmogul.com/online.php) at of the 134 'guests', I would guess about 115 of them are Yahoo! Slurp Spider (with a few MSNBot Spider and Google spiders also). Could that be causing problems? It seems like they would at least be eating a lot of bandwidth.

Some info on the subject:
http://help.yahoo.com/help/us/ysearch/slurp/index.html
http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/showthread.php?t=175051

[ohms_law]

Maybe adding another moderator or two that are here more often would help with the lag in finding out about these crashes sooner? I pm'e two of them but they must not have checked in yet today. One user pm'ed me that it's been down since the wee hours of this morning.

Personally, I e-mailed Dee at 6 in the morning on sunday morning, pacific time. About an hour to an hour and a half after it went down:

From : Dee Dreslough - Sports Mogul Inc <dee at nospam.sportsmogul.com>
Sent : Sunday, October 15, 2006 7:15 PM
To : ***** White <kedrick_valorite at nospam.hotmail.com>
Subject : Re: Site down

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On Sun, 2006-10-15 at 06:00 -0400, ***** White wrote:
> It looks like the entire Sports Mogul site is down. I can ping the address,
> but none of the web pages seem to work, and the forum is unreachable.

Thanks for letting us know! We've been having problems with the server
now for weeks. We're still not sure why it's dying, but we'll keep
poking at it. :)

-Dee Dreslough
dee at nospam.sportsmogul.com
www.sportsmogul.com

Dee has said in the past that the best way to let them know about a board problem is to e-mail her (and I sent it to Clay and Ian as well, just in case...)

[ohms_law]

thank you ...funny BMO leagues DIDNT go down thats how I contacted BoomBoom/Robinhoodnik etc

BMO is on a differnt server than the site and forum, from what I understand.
(and, there's aparently some bad history that caused that to come about...)

[ohms_law]

I was just looking at Who's Online (http://forum.sportsmogul.com/online.php) at of the 134 'guests', I would guess about 115 of them are Yahoo! Slurp Spider (with a few MSNBot Spider and Google spiders also). Could that be causing problems? It seems like they would at least be eating a lot of bandwidth.

Some info on the subject:
http://help.yahoo.com/help/us/ysearch/slurp/index.html
http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/showthread.php?t=175051

it's a common complaint. the people running Yahoo! are a bunch of pricks too, but the thing is that in order for a site like this to be indexed by search engines, you can't really limit them. from reading (a few hundred) topics about the subject on the vBulletin forums, bots have a very low priority anyway. So, if the actual forum traffic increases, the bots will simply disappear.

[FRENCHREDSOX]

BMO is on a differnt server than the site and forum, from what I understand.
(and, there's aparently some bad history that caused that to come about...)

Oh I said that because IT did go down on Friday(or Saturday?) when BM when down as well (between 11 GMT & 12.45 GMT)

[ohms_law]

humm... i didn't know about that. The timeframe though makes it sound like a backup started and completed, which is a neccesary evil. It would rather suck if that server crashed (hard drive died or something) and more than a couple of hours worth of data were lost...

[FRENCHREDSOX]

COULD BE.... but a lot alot of downs including the separate BMO one...(dont forget I m on "psycho" log in times)

[ohms_law]

dont forget I m on "psycho" log in times
Generally the same as I am though. We're up and online overnight, in US time. Me, I work all night. you're in Europe.
*shrug*

those are the non-peak times for most US web sights. From what i've seen 4-5 AM EST (which is 1-2 AM PST, and... 11-12 GMT? I think. That's figuring GMT = +8 from EST) is non-peak for the forum here. There's almost always less than 10 people online during that timeframe. I'm willing to bet that the web site page(s) aren't any different traffic wise either. Therefore, that's when most web server software will choose to do backups.
In terms of BMO, there's no sims going on at that time, from what I can tell. That coupled with (most likely) similar traffic patterns lead me to conclude that that's when a backup is going to occur.

[rollsroyce11991]

I am online alot but rarely post on the main forums (my posts come from bbmo), but i read all most all the posts, so feel free to send me a message and ill see if i can help.

[Sanji Watsuki]

Is IMing Mogulsports a good way to report a downage?

[Dee Dreslough]

If he's there and listening to his IM, it's a good way to report an outage, but I would follow up with email to me and Clay too. I don't use IM most of the time myself, so IMing me's not much help. :) I do check my email regularly, though. So does Clay.

dee nospam at sportsmogul.com
or
cjd nospam at sportsmogul.com (replace the nospam at with @ ) :)

Thanks! (Has the board been going up and down lately? We thought we had that problem fixed...)

-Dee Dreslough

[Sanji Watsuki]

Tue Nov 07 17:28:51 2006 Pacific Time was the last time I knew it was down

[ohms_law]

It seems to be a Sunday morning thing, which is what I was asking about yesterday in this thread: http://forum.sportsmogul.com/showthread.php?t=126223

[HoustonGM]

Yeah, the only time I've seen this is Sunday morning.