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Electricbassguy
11-17-2006, 03:27 AM
I had this pitcher who has spent the last four seasons as a starter, having a rating of like 89/98 and was at 96/97 i believe, but at the start of this season he dropped down to 79/97. this is a bug, or part of the game.

Now he is in AAA, developing still I hope. But he already won a Cy Young, and now he is back in AAA. It just seems weird to me, but i guess this could happen
ohms_law
11-17-2006, 05:57 AM
well... I'd say that that sort of thing may be normal. players do loose some ability during the off season. This sounds awfully extreme though, and I think that you may have missed something. Post some screenshots of the players scouting card (pitching and history screen) and we'll have a better idea of what actually occured.

ps.: these sorts of question posts go in the General Discussion forum (where i've moved it), not the suggestions forum.
HoustonGM
11-17-2006, 01:58 PM
It's not a bug. It's the Draft Predictability feature.
Brewersfan
11-17-2006, 02:20 PM
It's not a bug. It's the Draft Predictability feature.

Draft predictability! I don't think so. Please explain to me how that would affect a player after he had been in the league like 5 years reached a 96 ovr. What would that have to do with draft predicability. I'm willing to bet his pitcher's mvmt dropped off significantly, It's probably the same power pitcher having his mvmt dropping off the face of the earth bug. Thats been around for awhile. Please everything is not the result of Draft predicability.
HoustonGM
11-17-2006, 03:38 PM
Draft predictability! I don't think so. Please explain to me how that would affect a player after he had been in the league like 5 years reached a 96 ovr. What would that have to do with draft predicability. I'm willing to bet his pitcher's mvmt dropped off significantly, It's probably the same power pitcher having his mvmt dropping off the face of the earth bug. Thats been around for awhile. Please everything is not the result of Draft predicability.
Draft Predictability can affect a player up until he reaches his PEAK START age. It has nothing to do with how long he's been in the league. You're taking way too much out of the name of Draft Predictability. Perhaps it should be renamed "Development Predictability."

That power pitcher/movement drop bug was fixed, or at least SIGNIFICANTLY reduced, a while ago.
dolfanar
11-17-2006, 06:21 PM
I have to go with HGM on this one. I play with Draft Predictibility at +100% and I see very little of these extreme drop offs, though minor (and sometimes not so minor) dropoffs do still occur even at +100%. IMO, anything less than +80 or so makes the game unrealistically random.
Pavelb1
11-17-2006, 07:05 PM
I just want to chime in for anyone who cares....if something like this happened to me, I wouldn't send him to AAA because it's a little unrealistic to expect a former Cy Young winner to spend time in AAA unless it's right after an injury. I'd just hope he works it out (ratings arn't important to me, results are) and if he didn't, I'd trade him.
beerchaser
11-17-2006, 09:14 PM
The random drops usually occur in spring training, seems to me, and yes they are annoying especially when frontline pitchers get hit with it. But don't get mad, get even. At the end of ST, scroll through some of the other teams pitching rosters to see who got hit with it there. If you see one you like and you think he should be able to recover, you should be able to get him relatively cheap.
ohms_law
11-18-2006, 06:04 AM
Good points reagarding Draft Predictability. I still haven't really noticed anything this extreme ever happening. Guess I've gotta start paying a little more attention...
still71
11-22-2006, 05:02 AM
I have had it happen three different times now, twice since 9.45 where a player in his prime rated 100 randomly drops midseason to the 40-59 range. Nothing the editor can't fix, but its pretty annoying.

Everything was fine in regards to peak start and ending years, etc. Just a weird glitch.
HoustonGM
11-22-2006, 12:04 PM
If he was IN his peak, that would be the effect of "HALL OF FAME CAREERS". I'm playing with my value in that setting at +40%, and I still see some dropoffs, but they aren't as devastating. Jered Weaver dropped from 93 to 82, so he was still a reasonable starter but he likely wouldn't repeat his 17-6, 2.53 ERA performance.
still71
11-22-2006, 03:05 PM
Hall of Fame Careers set to +100%.
HoustonGM
11-22-2006, 03:22 PM
Hall of Fame Careers set to +100%.
That's extremely odd then.

Was he injured?

Outside of that, it seems like a freak occurence given your settings.
still71
11-22-2006, 06:31 PM
yeah, no injuries or anything. The only common thing being that all three times it happened to a player rated 100 - twice on my human controlled team, and once on a comp controlled team. Weird...
ohms_law
11-23-2006, 07:16 AM
If you can get some screenshots of it occuring, create a thread in the Bug Reporting forum. A couple of people have tried to start threads on this issue before and i've had to kick the threads out. The problem is always lack of anything substantive to point to as a problem, because all people could say was it "feels like" or "seems like" something is wrong. This sounds fairly concrete and reproduceable though, that player rated 100 has sudden inexplicable ratings decline.
still71
11-23-2006, 12:31 PM
If it happens again I'll grab a screen shot and start a thread. It's super rare and again has only happened a few times, but can be frustrating if you don't notice it happened. I had a pitcher having a stellar season, virtually unhittable the whole season until his last 3 starts he got tagged hard and that's when I noticed his ratings had been cut in half.
HoustonGM
11-23-2006, 01:27 PM
The rating = 100 thing is interesting. It might be a way for Mogul to cut down on large disparities in talent. Since players rated 100 are fairly rare, it tries to cut down on that, nearly completely.

Just an idea.
ohms_law
11-23-2006, 02:30 PM
The first thing that came to my mind was that a byte field for one of the ratings was rolling over to a negative value. Doesn't really matter though, since all any of us could do is speculate. Clay or Ian would just have to look it over in order to actually figure it out.
Jam391
11-26-2006, 03:19 PM
If he was IN his peak, that would be the effect of "HALL OF FAME CAREERS". I'm playing with my value in that setting at +40%, and I still see some dropoffs, but they aren't as devastating. Jered Weaver dropped from 93 to 82, so he was still a reasonable starter but he likely wouldn't repeat his 17-6, 2.53 ERA performance.

Yea like sometimes a get a pitcher whp just dominates one year and the next year is rating plummits with control and movement going down.
Jam391
11-26-2006, 03:23 PM
The rating = 100 thing is interesting. It might be a way for Mogul to cut down on large disparities in talent. Since players rated 100 are fairly rare, it tries to cut down on that, nearly completely.

Just an idea.

Another problem could be that his scouting rating could have dropped which changed the ratings. If all 4 pitching cateogories get changed even by like 3, it could bring his rating down along with age.