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Yankees Fan
07-10-2007, 03:48 PM
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19683904/

Personally I think the guy is nuts.

Basically he says when A-Rod opts out of his contract at the end of the year (he makes it sound as though its a done deal), the Giants should pay him $30,000,000 a season for the next 6 seasons, because his wife wore a controversial shirt, and if he averages just 40 Home Runs in each of those seasons (ages 32-38) he'll be right about at where the record will be, and The Giants are used to paying huge sums of money to one player and not getting a title in return. (I'll give him this, its true.) Also,
It’s a great city that isn’t offended by messages on t-shirts. Really?

In 4 years as a yankee, he'll only have hit 40 HR in two of them, and this is his prime. How in the world will he manage 40 a year until he is 38? Besides, I haven't heard him state that he wants to opt out of his contract at the end of the year, he's having a career year in NY right now. And if he does, would he really be interested in the Giants? I wouldn't think so. *shrug*

beerchaser
07-10-2007, 04:31 PM
The Giants

SUCK

HoustonGM
07-10-2007, 04:42 PM
Personally I think the guy is nuts.
He's HatGuy (http://www.firejoemorgan.com/search/label/HatGuy). He is nuts.


Besides, I haven't heard him state that he wants to opt out of his contract at the end of the year, he's having a career year in NY right now.
That career year is precisely why it would make sense (for him) to opt out. He's due 80 million or so over the next 3 years. If he opts out, he could very well be in line for another $200 million deal. If he rides out the contract, he likely won't get as much money IN ALL as he would if he did opt out. Don't forget, he could still opt out and resign with the Yankees.

Yankees Fan
07-10-2007, 05:03 PM
That career year is precisely why it would make sense (for him) to opt out. He's due 80 million or so over the next 3 years. If he opts out, he could very well be in line for another $200 million deal. If he rides out the contract, he likely won't get as much money IN ALL as he would if he did opt out. Don't forget, he could still opt out and resign with the Yankees.

If he did that, I'm sure that Steinbrenner would be pissed and refuse to sign him. But when you put it like that, it does make a lot of sense for him to opt out. Even though he has all the money he'll ever need, the rich only want more money.

beerchaser
07-10-2007, 09:00 PM
"It’s a great city that isn’t offended by messages on t-shirts."

Whoa, I missed that the first time around. Isn't offended?? In the People's Republic of California?? lololololol

FRENCHREDSOX
07-10-2007, 09:35 PM
If he did that, I'm sure that Steinbrenner would be pissed and refuse to sign him. But when you put it like that, it does make a lot of sense for him to opt out. Even though he has all the money he'll ever need, the rich only want more money.

A-Rod will do WHAT Boras' tells him to do - if he thinks he can (& usually Boras CAN) get 200 mill, A-Rod will opt out,if however he thinks not then he will stay....the best suitors are said to be "Angels","Red Sox" & possibly "Giants" but I would think it is down really to the Angels/Red Sox & Yankees if one of the three "fails" to get to post season they will be on Scott's cell phone in 30 secs with a offer ;)

ohms_law
07-11-2007, 12:54 AM
My prediction: A-Rod will opt out, but the Yankees will resign him almost immediately. It's not even really going to be competitive.

oh, and this PS.: A-Rod will break Bond's all-time HR record (after he finally does, of course). I don't think that that's too shocking of a prediction for most people though... but this may be. I predict that at some point in the next couple of years, he's also going to break the single season record as well. Home runs are "old guy skills", and Alex is only going to get better (albeit slower) in the next few years.

HoustonGM
07-11-2007, 12:59 AM
Home runs are "old guy skills", and Alex is only going to get better (albeit slower) in the next few years.
Well be careful here. Home runs may sometimes be lumped in with "old guy skills" but it certainly isn't true that the average player increases his power while going into his mid 30s/late 30s. A player's power peak is usually between 27-31. Players who are refererred to as having "old guy skills" are usually slow guys that walk and hit home runs. "old guy skills" doesn't really mean that its skills that you develop more of as you become an old guy.

ohms_law
07-11-2007, 01:05 AM
Well be careful here. Home runs may sometimes be lumped in with "old guy skills" but it certainly isn't true that the average player increases his power while going into his mid 30s/late 30s.

I don't disagree, but the key work in that sentence is "that the average player increases".
I don't know many people who would call A-Rod average.
;)

He fits the "had a power spike" archetype player, almost to a tee. He's quite a bit similar to Bonds, actually.

HoustonGM
07-11-2007, 01:23 AM
I don't disagree, but the key work in that sentence is "that the average player increases".
I don't know many people who would call A-Rod average.
;)

He fits the "had a power spike" archetype player, almost to a tee. He's quite a bit similar to Bonds, actually.
Yeah, possibly. I wasn't disagreeing with your predictions, just pointing something out. :)

I do think, barring injury, he'll break the all-time home run record. I'm not so sure if he'll get the single season mark. I'm fairly certain he'll hit 60 one year (and possibly set a so-called "clean" record), possibly even this, but I don't really think he'll be able to smash 74.

ohms_law
07-11-2007, 01:29 AM
I'm going to go out on a limb and predict that he'll hit mid-90's sometime in the next 5 years.
;)

dps
07-11-2007, 01:54 AM
My prediction: A-Rod will opt out, but the Yankees will resign him almost immediately. It's not even really going to be competitive.

I think that it's possible that that negotiation might already have been done before he officially opts out.

varybarry
07-11-2007, 03:24 PM
He might opt out, but I doubt he'll go to San Francisco.

ohms_law
07-11-2007, 09:27 PM
I think that it's possible that that negotiation might already have been done before he officially opts out.

Very likely, I would say. Him and Boras will still go through with it just to see what other GM/Owners offer (and if someone comes with an off the wall offer like Texas did before they'll take it, I'm positive), but the Yankees know what the deal is and will be willing to see that through. Even Steinbrenner isn't that egotistical, just to not resign a super-star because he doesn't want him receiving other offers. The NY fans seem to (mostly) like him as well, despite the playoff reputation which he is seeming to build.

HoustonGM
07-11-2007, 09:30 PM
"MLB sources told ESPN.com's Buster Olney that the Yankees are now willing to negotiate with Alex Rodriguez during the season."
from Rotoworld

ohms_law
07-11-2007, 09:46 PM
lol

...and it begins.
;)

HoustonGM
07-12-2007, 12:03 PM
"Alex Rodriguez won't be interested in negotiating with the Yankees during the season, agent Scott Boras told the New York Post."

FRENCHREDSOX
07-12-2007, 05:26 PM
"Alex Rodriguez won't be interested in negotiating with the Yankees during the season, agent Scott Boras told the New York Post."

Yea but by also saying he will earn 32 million per year for 08 & 09 he is setting the table for negociations with NYY or the other suitors...eg You want A-Rod its 6 years AT 30 mill....


http://www.nypost.com/seven/07122007/sports/yankees/30_something_yankees_joelsherman_maxine_shen.htm

varybarry
07-13-2007, 12:39 PM
A-Rod won't discuss contract negotiations until the season is over. He knows the team doesn't need that distraction, if they are going to try to make it to the playoffs.

JayC
07-13-2007, 01:30 PM
Kind of pointless at any time to listen to anything either an agent or a GM has to say to the press about possible contract negotiations. Everything they say is calculated; none of it is necessarily accurate.

ohms_law
07-14-2007, 02:05 AM
Kind of pointless at any time to listen to anything either an agent or a GM has to say to the press about possible contract negotiations. Everything they say is calculated; none of it is necessarily accurate.

Yea, pretty much. At the very least, you need to read or listen to what they say and "read between the lines". People tend to generally not lie outright, but they will obfuscate what's really going on.

Yankees Fan
07-14-2007, 11:57 AM
If he did that, I'm sure that Steinbrenner would be pissed and refuse to sign him. But when you put it like that, it does make a lot of sense for him to opt out. Even though he has all the money he'll ever need, the rich only want more money.

Looks like this is sort of the case, The Yankees reportedly won't negotiate with him if he opts out.

Geoffy
07-14-2007, 02:52 PM
So basically A-Rod won't be a Yankee after this season. I see him opting out for sure.

HoustonGM
07-14-2007, 02:53 PM
Just because the Yankees are saying they won't resign him if he opts out does not mean that that will hold true.

They do need somebody to play third base! ;p

Yankees Fan
07-14-2007, 03:52 PM
Yeah, and if they didn't re-sign him, they will be getting a huge downgrade at third, because A-Rod is the best out there. :(