Very Slow Fastballs

[ziggyosk]

I have the latest patch 10.24G and all my pitchers in my starting rotation have fastballs in the 87-89 MPH range, even though their power ratings are much different. Example:

9027

9028

9029

9030

Those are my starting pitchers, and see even though they all have vastly different power ratings they all pitch with the same velocity.


I'm not sure if it has to do with the fact that they are in MY rotation or if it's a bug with the whole league. I know some have said "it doesn't matter what your velocity is, it's only your power that matters" I could be wrong but it does seem to make a difference, my guys hardly ever strike out more than 3-4 batters per game, and this from Charley Root(see picture above)he has a 97 power and great control and movement. That doesn't seem right.

And it's very hard to strike out guys in the in-game mode.


This bug wasn't always the case, but it's been this way since at least 10.24F.
There used to be a problem where everyone threw 102-104 MPH, and now this seems to be the reverse. Thanks

[HoustonGM]

The velocity is completely cosmetic. The power rating controls a pitcher's ability to stirke batters out. However, I noticed in a game I started in 1927 that it seemes the power rating is calculated differently back in historical times. I checked a 93power pitcher'spredicted stats and it was predicted something like 80 strikeouts in 200 innings, and THAT explains why the pitchers arent stirking out many batters ,but I don't see why or how it's calculating the power rating for older leagues.


Let's try this. Take these predicted stats:

25 gs, 141.2 innings, 8-9, 622 batters faced, 156 hits, 13 hr, 41 bb, 71 k, 77 r, 273 gb, 6 hb, 3 wp, 0 bk

In 2007, it comes up with these ratings: 79 endurance, 86 control, 66 power, 80 control.

In 1927, 79 endurance, 78 control, 97 power, 77 movement.

In 1970, 79 endurance, 84 control, 71 power, 73 movement

In 1990, 79 endurnace, 81 control, 70 power, 75 movement

In 2005, same as 2007.

It seems as though the rating calculations are afected by the year...

[ziggyosk]

Still why does a player with a 85 power throw the same as one with a 97 power. makes no sense. and when playing in Play-by-Play mode its really hard to strikeout a guy when you throw 88 MPH

[Clay Dreslough]

In the case of the real-life pitchers in your example, all the pitch speeds are loaded from a file called PitchRatings.csv in the 'Players' folder inside the 'Input' folder in your Baseball Mogul 2008 folder.

For example:

c:\Program Files\Sports Mogul\Baseball Mogul 2008\Input\Players\PitchRatings.csv

We put a lot of work into this file, but if you find some historical reference that Carl Hubbell's fastball topped out in the 90s, I'll be happy to update the data for next year.

And Houston's right about the ratings -- they are relative to the league norms. Walter Johnson was considered an amazing strikeout power, but his actual strikeout rate was significantly lower than Randy Johnson, Roger Clemens, Nolan Ryan, Pedro Martinez etc.

[HoustonGM]

Still why does a player with a 85 power throw the same as one with a 97 power. makes no sense.
Not all strikeout pitchers throw hard, and not all players that throw hard strike players out. Justin Verlander hit 100 MPH, yet doesn't strike out loads of batters. You'd see him having a 98-100 MPH fastball with a power rating in the 80s...and you'd see Curt Schilling with a 90-92 MPH fastball and a power rating in the 90s because despite a slower fastball, he strikes out more players. Power is really a misnomer. It doesn't necesarilly indicate a hard-thrower, but rather, a strikeoutpitcher.


and when playing in Play-by-Play mode its really hard to strikeout a guy when you throw 88 MPH
That is insignificant. Velocity is purely cosmetic. Playing in earlier years like 1927 results in pitchers not amassing huge strikeout totals, so that is why you find it hard to stirke players out.