Best (and longest) Career I've seen..

[Royals24]

this is pretty crazy, Helton was a total stud for me.. i simmed month by month and didn't "cheat" in any way.. all of my spending was league average (around 15th).. I don't know how common this is.. but I thought it was awesome..

anyone ever see anything like this?

4024 runs, 5697 hits, 1108 doubles, 1295 HR, 4468 RBI

[wood34]

Holy ****!

I smell some cheating, but either way, this is awesome!


8701 career overall!(I think that is a 1 on the end) 0.o

[Coach Owens]

Jeez...

[Royals24]

i swear, i didn't cheat or edit Helton in anyway.. I started as the Rox in 93 (first year of their existence) and he was an 82/93, so i let him start that first year, he was a 95 overall until he was around 44 then it started to dropoff.. before he got to like 45 he only had 2 injuries in his career, both were just 2 weeks.. a lot of it had to do with him being in Coors i think (i played in mile high until 1998 though, 2 years later than the Rox did in real life) his overall stats really aren't accurate though, he won a few gold gloves, etc. won the triple crown around 15 times, was MVP around 20 times, it was just ridiculous how good he was for me.

[Coach Owens]

Can you post his Vitals page?

[wood34]

Can you post his Vitals page?

Yah. It would be interesting to see

[Royals24]

Here:

[Royals24]

great.. i think i just broke my Mogul.. i tried to view transactions and he had too many and it freaked out.. now when i try to view his scouting report i get the error "unable to allocate bitmap memory for this scouting report"

:(

[Coach Owens]

Wow.

[Coach Owens]

great.. i think i just broke my Mogul.. i tried to view transactions and he had too many and it freaked out.. now when i try to view his scouting report i get the error "unable to allocate bitmap memory for this scouting report"

That sucks.

[ohms_law]

Gotta love that thin Denver air!
:D

[Coach Owens]

"Think" Denver Air?

[Royals24]

great.. i think i just broke my Mogul.. i tried to view transactions and he had too many and it freaked out.. now when i try to view his scouting report i get the error "unable to allocate bitmap memory for this scouting report"

That sucks.

actually, i fixed it, but i can't view his transactions.. (i wish i could show them all, it would take like 6 screenshots, but totally be worth it)

[ohms_law]

actually, i fixed it, but i can't view his transactions.. (i wish i could show them all, it would take like 6 screenshots, but totally be worth it)

Actually, could you post a thread about this in the bug reporting forum please?
I've seen this reported once before, but we couldn't figure out why it was happening. Clay adjusted the transactions list in 10.24 so that there could be more than 100 listed. It sounds to me like there's a problem with that change.

[Royals24]

Actually, could you post a thread about this in the bug reporting forum please?
I've seen this reported once before, but we couldn't figure out why it was happening. Clay adjusted the transactions list in 10.24 so that there could be more than 100 listed. It sounds to me like there's a problem with that change.

yeah, i posted it

[wood34]

Exactly 35 years in the pros, but only his thirty-fourth season?

[BubbaDrew]

I can't believe he got so many at bats in the 2020's when he was hitting under .200 each year.

[Royals24]

I can't believe he got so many at bats in the 2020's when he was hitting under .200 each year.

i was padding his stats at that point.. it was probably a bad idea though because his career OPS was well over 1.000 before i started playing him when he sucked.

[wood34]

i was padding his stats at that point.. it was probably a bad idea though because his career OPS was well over 1.000 before i started playing him when he sucked.

I've done that plenty of times to try and get a guy into the Hall

[Royals24]

I've done that plenty of times to try and get a guy into the Hall

Helton could have retired at 25 and made the HoF, i bet..

[rockiesfan4ever]

TODD HELTON ROCKS!!!!!

Dude I cant believe he playe dthat long :O

I am using this thread a as reason people in my sim league should trad efor him :D

[Royals24]

TODD HELTON ROCKS!!!!!

Dude I cant believe he playe dthat long :O

I am using this thread a as reason people in my sim league should trad efor him :D

he was a 95 overall until his early - mid 40's...

[Gaedel]

Actually, could you post a thread about this in the bug reporting forum please?
I've seen this reported once before, but we couldn't figure out why it was happening. Clay adjusted the transactions list in 10.24 so that there could be more than 100 listed. It sounds to me like there's a problem with that change.

I played in 10.24 and had a player "overflow" and "whiteout" his transactions. Somewhere in the code there is a "dimensions" statement that needs adjusting to permit more transactions.

.

[ohms_law]

I played in 10.24 and had a player "overflow" and "whiteout" his transactions. Somewhere in the code there is a "dimensions" statement that needs adjusting to permit more transactions.

.

Yup.
Didn't you post a thread about this in bug reports, already?

[Yankees Fan]

Man, I have never had anyone play past age 46, and even then, they are hitting around .200.

[Scully25]

How did you get him to not retire? I had Jesse Burkett retire in 1913 at age 44during the season. He was even hitting .363 for the year, and was working on 4039 career hits! And I was in a pennant race!

[dupont24]

Pay them 3 times market value.

[RickD]

Any injuries of note?

[Scully25]

Well it would have been worth it. Burkett was a hitting machine, and missed a total of a month to injury. I didn't even pick him up until he was 34.

[Songsdream]

Why is his overall ranking 8701? I've never seen that glitch...

[ohms_law]

Me either. I meant to ask about that earlier.
The only thing I can think of, off the top of my head, is that the transactions issue is causing some general memory corruption.

[Royals24]

Me either. I meant to ask about that earlier.
The only thing I can think of, off the top of my head, is that the transactions issue is causing some general memory corruption.

or he's just the best player ever..

and whoever was asking, he was only injured 2 times before he turned 44, both were for 2 weeks each (strained rib and i think a broken finger, or something like that)

[Royals24]

also, to keep him from retirement, i'd sign him to a 7 year deal every year i could "negotiate" with him before the season even started.. i really got a good deal on him because i locked him up in the 90s before salaries got out of hand and he only made his money (20 million a year) when he was in his 40s, all during his prime he was at 3 million a year.

[asianinvasion]

you paid 20 million a year for a 40+ year old

[Royals24]

you paid 20 million a year for a 40+ year old

i think he was asking for like 7 per, but it was incentive not to retire

[Gaedel]

Yup.
Didn't you post a thread about this in bug reports, already?

Yes, trying to keep reminding everyone that it happens. It will probably be someone's favorite player, so save your transactions as screen shots when they get very long. The fix should just be changing a dimensions statement somewheres in the code.

[Yankees2772]

I think I topped you

Didn't play as long, but Eddie Mathews for me was better.

I didn't cheat at all except I used my knowledge of the MLB and traded for some shitty prospects like Willie Mays, Hank Aaron, Harmon Killebrew, Mickey Mantle, Al Kaline, Joe Morgan, Roberto Clemente, Ted Williams (wasn't a prospect), Duke Snider (wasn't a prospect), etc, etc.... And that's why they won a lot of championships.

http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/7645/mathewswc3.png

[Royals24]

fewer hits, fewer HR

i think helton was better..

[Yankees2772]

7 seasons less... I'd need 100 hits a year (easy) and like 20-25 HR... Not too hard...

Mathews' SLG % is 50 points higher and average 12 points higher.

If it matters, there were 154 game seasons for the beginning part of his career, in his prime.

[ohms_law]

7 seasons less... I'd need 100 hits a year (easy) and like 20-25 HR... Not too hard...
Good point except for one thing. We're talking about players in their mid 40's here. Playing until the player is 53 is an accomplishment in and of itself.

[Gaedel]

I start a lot of leagues in the fifites ever since BBM 2004. Matthews has always been a great player whether I get him or the AI gets him.

[Yankees Fan]

I just had my oldest player play to 47 years old, still a good few years short of Helton. I'm not sure what made him play so long, It could have been that he started playing full-time at age 27, or that he was an australian baseball player, a rarity in itself. :p They know the secret to longevity down under, perhaps?

His averages for ages 45, 46, and 47: 124 games, 434 AB's, 109 hits, .251 AVG, 13 HR, 20 doubles, and 2 triples. 64 RBI, 57 walks. .395 SLG, .340 OBP. He also had 9 steals and just 3 CS in that period. He was actually probably helping my team more than hindering it, which for that age is pretty cool. I'll take a .400 Slugging from my #9 guy any day. His fielding was also solid, 6 errors in 143 games at age 46.

[Yankees2772]

Keep them happy, with a nice long contract (I should've been smart enough to overpay Mathews considering the crazy amount of cash I had available) and make sure that you keep them happy in terms of playing time... a 40 year old who has been playing for your team for 20 years at 3b batting cleanup won't accept batting 9th and playing DH too well.

[zkoeske]

Just thought I'd share this guy I had. He played until he was 54. He was pretty awful and I have no idea why he continued playing. His career average was .225 and he ONLY managed 3195 hits despite playing 33 seasons. I signed him as a free agent at age 45 because its unusual to see a computer controlled player play for that long as it is and I wanted to see if I could get a guy with a career avg. below .230 to 3000 hits. Once he reached 3000, my next goal was to see if he could play until he died (his projected death was at age 62). He didn't quite make it.

[Royals24]

thats stupid.. his overalls were all 100 and helton's were lower, but helton was 10x the player he was..

[ohms_law]

Something is definitely up with that. Just like Royals24's Healton, Montie's overall is all screwed up as well.

[TopGear]

Maybe the overall screws up if the player plays past a certain career length?

[Yankees Fan]

^yeah must be, bbm might think it impossible to play 30 seasons or something.

[phillies999]

he loved baseball that much he couldn't quit
1000 HR!!