New Forum Suggestion - Split General Discussions Into Two

[HoustonGM]

I'd like to suggest adding a forum for the posts that currently go in Baseball Mogul: General Discussion that showcase players, interesting games, records, etc. and keeping General Discussion for actual game issues that don't fit in Bug Reports or Suggestions & AI.

I'd even offer to clean up the current General Discussion forum by moving all currently existing posts of that nature to the newly created forum.

As an example, this is the type of thread that would belong in the new forum (http://forum.sportsmogul.com/showthread.php?t=159557) and this is something that would stay in General Discussion (http://forum.sportsmogul.com/showthread.php?t=159764).

[boomboom]

nah, I would just put that into dynasties.

[HoustonGM]

nah, I would just put that into dynasties.
I see dynasties as more of...log of a team over time, or continually following one player's career, not a place to post accomplishments or interesting things from a game. you know?

[boomboom]

I see dynasties as more of...log of a team over time, or continually following one player's career, not a place to post accomplishments or interesting things from a game. you know?

I know, btw: your writing style sometimes compares to ohms ;)
lol

If Dee would to implement this, It might be a waste of time, I don't think many people would use it.

[HoustonGM]

Well, it's mostly just to clean up the current General Discussion forum a bit. People do post these things. They just currently go in General Discussion. This would give them a specific place to go, and those that are posted into General Discussion would just get moved to this forum. If anything, it might actually increase the number of people who post such things, as there currently isn't anywhere that says "Post some interesting things from your game here" or what have you.

I don't think it'd be a waste of time...because no time is really being wasted (well, except for mine, if I were to browse general discussion and move threads to the new forum, but really, I have so much free time...I'd be happy to waste it!). It takes a minutes or so to add a new forum.

[boomboom]

I remember a time when there was one forum for each NFL, NBA and MLB team...

We don't need to go into that direction, simplier the better.

[boomboom]

Maybe keeping General Discussions one forum and maybe a subforum/ or regular forum called General Questions....hmm

[ohms_law]

I agree. I've thought about this myself a couple of times in the past, but I've just never taken the time to suggest it.

Making it (the... Showcase? forum) a sub-forum of General Discussions, rather than a main sub-forum off of Baseball Mogul is a good idea though.
Hows that for a name, btw? Baseball Mogul:General Discussions:Showcase
:)


btw: your writing style sometimes compares to ohms
lol
What can I say, he's learned from one of the best!
:p

[WATERY]

I agree. I've thought about this myself a couple of times in the past, but I've just never taken the time to suggest it.

Making it (the... Showcase? forum) a sub-forum of General Discussions, rather than a main sub-forum off of Baseball Mogul is a good idea though.
Hows that for a name, btw? Baseball Mogul:General Discussions:Showcase
:)


What can I say, he's learned from one of the best!
:p
That's odd. I see a big contrast in ohms and hgms writing styles, but w/e

Also, boomboom seems to be on target with backing up his views on this. No need to fix what isn't broken.

[robinhoodnik]

I like it. I'd call it General Chaos though. More appropriate IMO.

[RickD]

General Chaos....that seems to be most threads in general discussion and sports talk anyways. :D

[boomboom]

I think that General discussion should be maybe on forum where you can post anything about BM, or generally talk about your teams/players

While maybe a subforum called General Questions.

I think you guys are thinking a little too hard. ;)

[MeetDaMets]

any who gets ejected from
General Chaos should wind up at

Corporal Punishment or Private Parts.

either works for me

[Coach Owens]

What can I say, he's learned from one of the best!
:p

Yeah. Me! :p

[MeetDaMets]

or possibly

Major Pita

[HoustonGM]

I agree. I've thought about this myself a couple of times in the past, but I've just never taken the time to suggest it.

Making it (the... Showcase? forum) a sub-forum of General Discussions, rather than a main sub-forum off of Baseball Mogul is a good idea though.
Hows that for a name, btw? Baseball Mogul:General Discussions:Showcase
:)


What can I say, he's learned from one of the best!
:p

Maybe keeping General Discussions one forum and maybe a subforum/ or regular forum called General Questions....hmm
Yeah, I should've said that I think it should be a subforum rather than its own forum. And I think that the "showcases" name is great, and that it should be the subforum, not "general questions." :)


I think that General discussion should be maybe on forum where you can post anything about BM, or generally talk about your teams/players

While maybe a subforum called General Questions.

I think you guys are thinking a little too hard.
Yep, I'd just say the other way around. General Discussion is for anything about Baseball Mogul that doesn't fit into Bug Reports or Suggestions and AI, with a subforum called "Showcases" for all players, games, events, etc.

[boomboom]

Yep, I'd just say the other way around. General Discussion is for anything about Baseball Mogul that doesn't fit into Bug Reports or Suggestions and AI, with a subforum called "Showcases" for all players, games, events, etc.

Nah, I would do it General Discussion and with General Questions as a subforum :eek::)

[HoustonGM]

Just curious as to why? The "general questions" make up the majority of the posts in General Discussions...and what do you do with the threads that aren't really "questions" but aren't "showcases" either? The main forum would have those and the "showcases" and questions would go in a subforum which just seems awkward to me.

[boomboom]

because nobody would use a showcase forum. To show off they edited a player, that would be dave's favorite forum ;)

[boomboom]

The only pure way of doing it is by posting BMO players...not bm2k8 players.

[HoustonGM]

Well, I don't think we have to make it "pure." People post both "pure" and "impure" "showcases" right now in General Discussions. This would just create a subforum where those posts would go, and keep the main forum for game issues that don't fit into the other forums.

People use General Discussions as a way to post "showcases" now so I don't see why they wouldn't use a subforum.

[boomboom]

Well, I don't think we have to make it "pure." People post both "pure" and "impure" "showcases" right now in General Discussions. This would just create a subforum where those posts would go, and keep the main forum for game issues that don't fit into the other forums.

People use General Discussions as a way to post "showcases" now so I don't see why they wouldn't use a subforum.

I think I got your point Houston. If you want we can debate this :)

or maybe what you think is always correct. ;)

[HoustonGM]

I'm just curious as to why you think it should be the other way around. It just doesn't make much sense to me. When you take the three main types of threads in General Discussions - "showcases", help questions, and general discussions on aspects of the game (http://forum.sportsmogul.com/showthread.php?t=159473) - the "showcases" seem like the odd-man out, so it'd seem strange to remove the help questions from the main forum, ya know? In addition, the "showcase" threads make up the lowest percentage of the threads, and the help questions make up the highest percentage, it seems strange to move the most common type of thread into a subforum, while leaving the least common type of thread in the main forum.

[boomboom]

I have stated it above. I don't think people really will enjoy when they say,

Joe Blow hit 1200 homeruns, 5000 hits, 1000 doubles, and 1200 triples...he had a lifetime OPS of 2.000

Oh, yes he played from age 12-45.

That kind of stuff is what people will post. I think the intention is good, but we don't need to clean up the forum, heck we could just have all the moderators give up there moderator powers and the forums would be fine.

[Coach Owens]

Well, I think it would help. It's fun to see the accomplishments people get, but their posts get buried by all of the repeated questions. Although, maybe you could add a sticky to the top. Like a FAQ.

[ohms_law]

But... Some people do enjoy doing that now. HGM's suggestion just gives them a place to do it, is all.

As for the moderators comment, I doubt it. I've seen actual unmoderated forums before. Their quite often impossible to use.
The fact that there's a perception that the forums are taking care of themselves is certainly nice to hear though. I put quite a bit of effort into being as unobtrusive as possible. Thanks!
:)

[ohms_law]

Actually, it might make more organizational sense to put the sub-forum in the Dynasties forum...

[Coach Owens]

I wish I was a moderator. :(

[ohms_law]

I can tell.

[Coach Owens]

You're saying that like it's a bad thing. :confused:

[boomboom]

I wish I was a moderator. :(


You're saying that like it's a bad thing. :confused:

I don't think you would make a good moderator. Why do you want to become one. We have no need for anymore.

[Coach Owens]

I just like having power, you know? Plus I'd get more respect, which I don't have. :( And you're insulting me now, boomboom. :mad:

[Reade]

Plus I'd get more respect,

You get respect for the way you treat and interact with other people not by having power over them.

[HoustonGM]

I have stated it above. I don't think people really will enjoy when they say,

Joe Blow hit 1200 homeruns, 5000 hits, 1000 doubles, and 1200 triples...he had a lifetime OPS of 2.000

Oh, yes he played from age 12-45.

That kind of stuff is what people will post. I think the intention is good, but we don't need to clean up the forum, heck we could just have all the moderators give up there moderator powers and the forums would be fine.
People already post that stuff randomly on and off though. I don't think a subforum for "showcases" would cause anymore people to do than already do. If anything, we can make a rule that only non-editted players can be posted, and anything that is obviously editted will be deleted.


Actually, it might make more organizational sense to put the sub-forum in the Dynasties forum...
Yes, perhaps.


I just like having power, you know?
That's not a good quality for a moderator.


Plus I'd get more respect, which I don't have.
Not necessarily...

[ohms_law]

More people would probably post their players and/or team accomplishments if there were a dedicated place for it, actually.
And to be honest, I could care less if the players are edited or not. It's still fun to see, occasionally.

Besides, people always ask for screenshots and whatnot when new versions come out.

[Rongar]

If anything, we can make a rule that only non-editted players can be posted, and anything that is obviously editted will be deleted.


Houston, I'm amazed that you would bar edited posts...apart from the strictures of our English teachers ("Revise...revise...revise your writings!"), I believe that many a post would be far more attractive to read; less likely to inflame; garner more respect for the author's effort to improve his stuff; were that author to take a sober second (and 3rd) look at what he hath wrought.

I, myself, invariably edit my posts, if only to dunk in my teas, and cross my eyes. To those who dislike what I, eventually, do turn out, I can only say "You shoulda seen my first draft!" :eek:

[Coach Owens]

Not necessarily...



Do you respect me? What about you, Ohms?

[ohms_law]

Houston, I'm amazed that you would bar edited posts...apart from the strictures of our English teachers ("Revise...revise...revise your writings!"), I believe that many a post would be far more attractive to read; less likely to inflame; garner more respect for the author's effort to improve his stuff; were that author to take a sober second (and 3rd) look at what he hath wrought.

I, myself, invariably edit my posts, if only to dunk in my teas, and cross my eyes. To those who dislike what I, eventually, do turn out, I can only say "You shoulda seen my first draft!" :eek:

Not posts, players.

[HoustonGM]

Do you respect me? What about you, Ohms?
I do my best to respect everybody that respects me.

[robinhoodnik]

I think the intention is good, but we don't need to clean up the forum, heck we could just have all the moderators give up there moderator powers and the forums would be fine.

Seconded. The forums don't need any more "work" right now.

I would miss the x-ray vision option if I had to give up my powers though....... :(

[robinhoodnik]

I do my best to respect everybody that respects me.


:eek: so that means that..... :eek:

;)

[robinhoodnik]

I just like having power, you know? Plus I'd get more respect, which I don't have.

I have some leftover respect that I'm currently not using. I'll give it to you for a good price. I'll pm my address to you and you can mail me a check. Good? :)

[Rongar]

Not posts, players.

Thank you for correcting me, Ohms. Houston, my apologies for misunderstanding your post...I fear my on-us was off!

[boomboom]

I do my best to respect everybody that respects me.

As for me, I respect everybody, no matter what..even if they don't respect me.

I remember when I was younger and in martial arts, we had mental requirements. The first one at every rank was:

" Respect for the Art, the School, and all other People."

[HoustonGM]

I try to respect people that don't respect me, but sometimes, that ain't easy, depending on the level of disrespect you're being shown.

[boomboom]

I try to respect people that don't respect me, but sometimes, that ain't easy, depending on the level of disrespect you're being shown.

Someday, you will understand what I am saying... If somebody doesn't respect you, just walk away.

[HoustonGM]

Someday, you will understand what I am saying... If somebody doesn't respect you, just walk away.
I understand what you're saying. Walking away might not always be an available option though.

At any rate, in real life, I've never had to deal with disrespect, as I'm not outgoing, basically keep to myself and I'm not confrontational.

[boomboom]

Walking away might not always be an available option though.

.


It is always an available option especially in an online forum.

[HoustonGM]

It is always an available option especially in an online forum.
When I was talking about respect, I was talking about both online and offline, and offline, there are situations in which it might not be an option. But whatever, there's no reason to argue over that.

[Rongar]

I have some leftover respect that I'm currently not using. I'll give it to you for a good price. I'll pm my address to you and you can mail me a check. Good? :)

Ah, Robin, but will you respect yourself in the morning (for dubious salesmanship practices)? :)

[Coach Owens]

A better question is, do you respect yourself, Rongar?

[robinhoodnik]

Ah, Robin, but will you respect yourself in the morning (for dubious salesmanship practices)? :)

No, but the money will fill that empty spot up nicely. ;)

[Rongar]

A better question is, do you respect yourself, Rongar?

I'll drink a Fifth on that question, on the grounds that an answer might implicate those of us who feel guilty :D