Vick gets 23 months

[Reade]

The judge just handed down Vicks sentence. He gets 23 months and 3 years of probation. The judge said he believes that Vick was the mastermind and financial backer of the whole operation, without him the judge said it wouldn't have happened.

He will get out in Oct of 09, does he have any football left after that?

[RickD]

Well if he get's out in Oct of 09 he'd still have to get in massive football shape....2010 would be the first realistic time he would be totally in shape....He would be near 30.....realistically he could get back in shape and play 6-7 years....however Vick has always been better with his feet than his arm....I don't see his ability to run being the same.

[petrel]

Ow.

Or, perhaps "awwwwwwoooo-BARK-BARK-BARK"....

--Pet

[RickD]

LOL....Nah.....pride....he will do the time and try a comeback to "redeem" himself.

[boomboom]

I hope he does try a comeback. I think it could be a good story.

[RickD]

Well from a PR viewpoint...if he got out of prison, expressed remorse, joined an animal rights group, made a commercial, and then tried for a football comeback....he'd be a superstar again.

[Rongar]

All he'd have to do is learn the knuckleball, then become a BM draft pick when he gets outa clink!:cool:

[dps]

Well from a PR viewpoint...if he got out of prison, expressed remorse, joined an animal rights group, made a commercial, and then tried for a football comeback....he'd be a superstar again.

Well, he'd have to try for a football comeback and actually play at a superstar level--which he's never really done as a pro.

[RickD]

True but you know a book and movie deal will follow at some point.

[robinhoodnik]

But would it be worth reading without any of his criminal activities being iincluded? Remember that you cannot profit from crime, after commiting a crime. That would prevent him from telling his story in regard to the whole doggie issue I'd think.

[Coach Owens]

He should have gotten more time. :mad: Poor dogs. :(

[RickD]

True but someone else can do a movie and it would still up his "Q" levels.....esp if he turns this around and comes back from this situation and wins a SuperBowl! OK not likely to happen but hey what else can we all do but speculate.

[ohms_law]

Remember that you cannot profit from crime
Isn't that only true while you're incarcerated? I don't know that much about it, but I can remember several biographies coming out after the person gets out of prison.

[boomboom]

Isn't that only true while you're incarcerated? I don't know that much about it, but I can remember several biographies coming out after the person gets out of prison.

I believe so, maybe all the proceeds will go to PETA if you can't profit.

[ohms_law]

That's all we need, millions of dollars going to PETA.
:rolleyes:

[robinhoodnik]

You used to be able to do it, but not any longer.

[RickD]

PETA - People Eating Tasty Animals....what's wrong with that?

[ohms_law]

lol

They gotta love that!

[Coach Owens]

PETA - People Eating Tasty Animals....what's wrong with that?

Or People-Eating Termites Association. ;)

[petrel]

Me, I belong to Mankind for Ethical Animal Treatment.

-Pet

[QHowes]

Although there is no parole in the federal system, rules governing time off for good behaviour could reduce Vick's prison stay by about three months, resulting in a summer 2009 release. <- Taken from tsn.ca

[RickD]

Those Crazy Canucks.....already looking to get the guy out of jail!

[petrel]

He'll probably go to a "tennis prison":

http://www.forbes.com/2006/04/17/best-prisons-federal_cx_lr_06slate_0418bestprisons.html

--Pet

[QHowes]

hahah

[robinhoodnik]

He's already been given one month served.

[Arctic Blast]

I don't see him making a return as a full time quarterback. Keep in mind, even if he's back for the 2009 season, that will be multiple seasons without playing (including the current one)...that's a lot of rust to shake off, especially for a guy who has never really been all that good at reading coverages and defenses. And most of his game has been based on his legs...will he still have that kind of athleticism by that time? Somebody will give him a shot, but not as anything more than a backup/change-of-pace style of QB who also lines up sometimes as maybe a receiver or a kick returner.

[lkcostas]

LOL....Nah.....pride....he will do the time and try a comeback to "redeem" himself.

If he does try a comeback, I hope he gets at least one game in Cleveland. I think his reception there could be - interesting.

[RickD]

Well there will guarantee to be 1 team at least whose QB situation is bad enough that they will give him a shot at starting QB.

[SirKodiak]

He should have been given community service too, something involving kennels and his toothbrush...

[RickD]

Well now....if he serves his time then we should all help in the re-hab process by forgiving him and getting him a cat!

[SirKodiak]

Well now....if he serves his time then we should all help in the re-hab process by forgiving him and getting him a cat!

Like this one (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liger)!

[RickD]

Lol....

[Arctic Blast]

I don't disagree a team may give him a shot at a quarterback JOB. What I was (very poorly) trying to say is that nobody is going to give him starting quarterback MONEY until he proves he might actually be worth it. (and considering his financial position, he's frankly going to have to take any offer that might come along).

[JayC]

But would it be worth reading without any of his criminal activities being iincluded? Remember that you cannot profit from crime, after commiting a crime. That would prevent him from telling his story in regard to the whole doggie issue I'd think.
Really it's not that simple. First, those "Son of Sam" laws are enacted at the state level, so the details vary from state to state, and some don't have any such laws in place. Some of those were passed were struck down by the US Supreme Court a few years ago, including New York's, which was the first passed in the country.

So while I don't know the details of specifically which law might cover Vick's case, but in New York the current law (replacing the one struck down) requires notification to be made to a crime victim when a convicted perpetrator receives pretty much any payment of $10,000 or more. It's then up to the victim (in most cases; there are some circumstances I believe in which the state itself can get involved) to pursue the matter and recover that money under the terms of the "Son of Sam" law. So, in a case like Vicks... who's the victim?

Some of the original laws hinged on whether the source of the income (book, movie, whatever) relied primarily on a description of the crime. So if a felon were, for example, to write a book about his life as a whole but mention the crime that made him "famous" in passing, the law might not apply. As far as I know, though, very few of these situations ever got into court to test those kinds of things, and again many of those laws were tossed out by the Supreme Court and may or may not have been updated since then.

[ohms_law]

Yea, OK. That's what I thought... but like I said, I didn't really know.