2008 Rosters for BM09

[FRENCHREDSOX]

ncluded:
1° Every MLB player that played in 2007 with their real stats (thus some who have had a poor season will have a future peak set at a higher level than their actual performance);
2° Top 100 Baseball AMERICA's prospects from start of 2008 but adjusted with their real milb stats & progression;
3° milb.com START of season rankings of each organizations players;
4° BA's top 20 end of season rankings of each Minor Leagues;
5° Every trade upto 1 WEEK after opening Day in Japan;
6° Each team allocated their 2007 Amateur draftees Rounds 1,Supplemental 1st & Round 2
7° All injuries as close to real life return time date - some players are injured EVEN though the DID play in the 1st week but suffered a major set back (eg Pedro Martinez)


Instructions:
The first set of instructions is how you would normally go about using my rosters.

1) Unzip the file into your Baseball Mogul 2009 folder (Usually C:\Program Files\Sports Mogul\Baseball 2009).
2) Open Baseball Mogul 2009.
3) Select "Start a New Game of Baseball Mogul."
4) From the dropdown menu next to "Start Year:" select "Custom Universe" and click "Play."
5) From your Baseball Mogul 2008 folder, select the file you want, either Default.mog (or UpToDate.mog) and click "Open."
6) Input your name, choose your team, your difficulty level, and whatever other options you'd like and click "Play."

Use these for best results:

1) Unzip the file into your Baseball Mogul 2009 folder (Usually C:\Program Files\Sports Mogul\Baseball 2009).
2) Open Baseball Mogul 2009.
3) Select "Resume a Previously Saved Game."
4) Select either "Opening Day" or "UpToDate" and click "Resume Game."
5) Go to League > League Editor.
6) Click "Set All Teams Computer."
7) From the team dropdown menu, select the team you want to play as.
8) Under Team Owner, choose the one with the blank space, and enter your name there.
9) Click "Done."
10) Go to League > Options.
11) Uncheck Commissioner Mode.
12) Start playing.

[Red Sox Fan]

Thanks French!

Question: would current player salaries be included as well?

[FRENCHREDSOX]

Thanks French!

Question: would current player salaries be included as well?

YES (INCLUDES all extensions like Snell the ONLY problem is as 25 man rosters have NOT as yet been set is those minor league contracts havent been converted to Major league deals ----- °)

[PadresFan104]

Thanks French, great job having this ready for the release.

[Red Sox Fan]

I find the players ratings are too low in 11.04. Alex Rios of Toronto is an 80 and Scott Rolen is an 76. Just two examples.

Across the board player ratings are way off.

[KMils]

How does one edit players who aren't that good? Angel Villalona is apparently a possible 40-40 player who has a peak rating of 68. I'm trying to edit so that his predicted is closer to that, but the game will not let me edit predicted ratings (besides hitting the plus and minus buttons, but those are not very specific). Is there any way I can edit Peak projections?

[JoshJones]

Just type in the prediction in Commish Mode, that edits peak projections

[HoustonGM]

Angel Villalona is apparently a possible 40-40 player who has a peak rating of 68.
40-40? what scouting reports do you read? :p

40-homer potential, yes, but they're already considering moving him to first base because he's growing too fast to stay at third. He isn't fast at all.

[gem779]

when/will you have opening day rosters with 25 man rosters and players that have been waived and rule V draftees that have been sent back and all that stuff??

thanks for your work, by the way...it's been great

[FRENCHREDSOX]

I find the players ratings are too low in 11.04. Alex Rios of Toronto is an 80 and Scott Rolen is an 76. Just two examples.

Across the board player ratings are way off.

All RATINGS are based on LAST years' stats plus ZiPs projections thrown in - Rolen hit 8 HRs last year & is a .260/.270 hitter with superior D (basically he is now Sean Casey°).Rios is rated an 87 in the game.

There is a PROBLEM with peaks (basically it is randomized) for prospects but that will be sorted within the week when HGM & I release our mog files & 25 day rosters will be set :D

[KMils]

40-40? what scouting reports do you read? :p

40-homer potential, yes, but they're already considering moving him to first base because he's growing too fast to stay at third. He isn't fast at all.

It was some random scouting report - I saw his ratings and I was trying to figure out whether he suddenly stopped being good or not. He was my favorite player in BM2008 because he was sickeningly good. Shows what I know, eh?

Ratings don't look terrible (better than mine), and you can edit players who you don't like. Are the salaries 100% accurate? Joe Mauer comes up as a 4m player; pretty sure he has something like 3 years left at 8m/year.

[HoustonGM]

It was some random scouting report - I saw his ratings and I was trying to figure out whether he suddenly stopped being good or not. He was my favorite player in BM2008 because he was sickeningly good. Shows what I know, eh?
That'd be because whoever editted the file you used in 2k8, had Villalona as that good. He certainly has the potential to be a sickeningly good offensive player, just not when it comes to stolen bases :)


. Are the salaries 100% accurate? Joe Mauer comes up as a 4m player; pretty sure he has something like 3 years left at 8m/year.
He has 3 years left at an average of about $9.66 mil, in real life. From, Cot's Baseball Contracts (http://mlbcontracts.blogspot.com/2005/01/minnesota-twins_17.html):

08:$6.25M, 09:$10.5M, 10:$12.5M

[mikeg0753]

Please help. I have always wanted to use rosters with current rosters with last years stats instead of somebodys predictions. FRENCHREDSOX did just this. However when I try to download the rosters, intead of getting uptodate or default I get attachment.mog. I start up BM2009 and I try to resume and it says attachment. The rosters are exactly the same. I followed the instructions exactly. Baseball Mogul kicks ***. Please help me download the rosters. Thanks.

[Coreno]

Some of the players positions dont make sense. Why is Jacoby Ellsbury a RF, and Alex Cora a 1B, among other positional oddities.

[wood34]

Yeah, the positions are kinda screwy.

Felix Pie a mediocre LF? Theriot in RF?

I haven't checked every team, but in the Cubs's case, the whole organization needs their positions looked at.

[FRENCHREDSOX]

Yeah, the positions are kinda screwy.

Felix Pie a mediocre LF? Theriot in RF?

I haven't checked every team, but in the Cubs's case, the whole organization needs their positions looked at.

There is a MAJOR bug in 11.04 & LEADS to major problems as the sim doesnt account/include for THE predictions in the fielding csv UNLESS you go into commish & refresh EVERY player - I mentioned it HERE (http://forum.sportsmogul.com/showthread.php?t=172356) & also explains why there are some wacky roster set ups :(

[CJC47]

One change to Note: Oscar Villareal was traded from Atlanta to Houston. You have Josh Anderson on Atlanta, but Oscar Vulture is still there too.

[FRENCHREDSOX]

One change to Note: Oscar Villareal was traded from Atlanta to Houston. You have Josh Anderson on Atlanta, but Oscar Vulture is still there too.

Yep my bad here below is an intemediary file which has all major "bugs" fixed eg Theriot not playing SS,Villareal (wrong team),all latest trades/waivers (Johnson to CHC,Breslow to CLE) & correct salaries ;)



THE real 1st roster will be out SATURDAY with all minors having their vitals inserted & the REAL PREDICTED peaks .

[CJC47]

Yep my bad here below is an intemediary file which has all major "bugs" fixed eg Theriot not playing SS,Villareal (wrong team),all latest trades/waivers (Johnson to CHC,Breslow to CLE) & correct salaries ;)



THE real 1st roster will be out SATURDAY with all minors having their vitals inserted & the REAL PREDICTED peaks .

Awesome... thanks a bunch

[FRENCHREDSOX]

Awesome... thanks a bunch

;)

[GOYANKSGONJ]

Unless you say it's not OK otherwise, FRS, I'll be using your initial 2008 roster for BBM 2009 as the starting file for my league.

;)

[drock4234]

I apologize in advance if you either caught this already or your update fixed this...

I just wanted to let you know that Matt Albers is mistakenly still on the Astros instead of the O's. Thanks for your hard work.

[dejota]

Also on the Astros there's a bunch of guys that aren't there like Ezequiel Astacio who has been gone over a year. Rick White, Miguel Asencio are two more I've noticed off the top of my head.

Also Berkman's predicted average is below every season he's had except for last season and Lee has hit over .300 for two consecutive season's yet is only predicted to hit .282. Also Bourn is **** now and has no upside because of roughly 150 AB's? Chacon will start for the Astros and has for most of his career.

Sorry if I'm being nit-picky.

[FRENCHREDSOX]

Also on the Astros there's a bunch of guys that aren't there like Ezequiel Astacio who has been gone over a year. Rick White, Miguel Asencio are two more I've noticed off the top of my head.

Also Berkman's predicted average is below every season he's had except for last season and Lee has hit over .300 for two consecutive season's yet is only predicted to hit .282. Also Bourn is **** now and has no upside because of roughly 150 AB's? Chacon will start for the Astros and has for most of his career.

Sorry if I'm being nit-picky.

NO probs - as said it is an intemediary Roster - Chacon in the real Opening day roster is a SP (actually your #3),Bourn well is slated to hit .255 with superior defence*,Berkman is close to what he did last year & is unlikely IMO to improve at 32,but compensated by improvements of Pence.Houston have a major hole at 2B & 3B & thus Lee is by all accounts set to regress slightly (I have him as a .294 hitter in OD rosters) but at the same time WALK more,as the team as a whole is an agressive batter's team.

Yep White/Astacio are gone & Ascencio is a Red Sox now ;)


* as his sample size is so small & has minor stats 2 years old I used pure ZiPs for him.

[Red Sox Fan]

French - thought I'd let you know that Brandon League of the Blue Jays is not injured and is healthy. He is on the opening day roster. The 200+ days showing injured should be removed...

[kenny1234]

.Houston have a major hole at 2B & 3B & thus Lee is by all accounts set to regress slightly (I have him as a .294 hitter in OD rosters) but at the same time WALK more,as the team as a whole is an agressive batter's team.


I'm interested in how you do the projections. From this it sounds like you adjust predicted stats based on where a player is playing. Here it sounds like Lee is slated to hit for a lower average and walk more because he has weaker players around him. This is fine if you are trying to guess a player's final stats - but I don't think that should be the goal since players can move around. Shouldn't player ratings be independent of the lineup in which they play and then let lineup effects arise within the game?

A related problem exists with using Runs Scored as a determinant of speed. A player traded from the Royals to the Tigers doesn't get faster but their predicted Runs Scored will increase - and thus if it isn't adjusted their Speed rating would increase.

[HoustonGM]

The effect that Runs Scored has one Speed isn't that great. For example, take Adrian Beltre, 76 predicted runs, 74 speed. Cut that to 46 runs, which, for the amount of times he's on base is incredibly low, and he goes to 71 speed. Up him to 106, and he goes up to 78 speed. Now, that's with shifts of 30 runs. Moving from one time to another is likely never going to cause that dramatic of a run switch.

Furthermore, if I understand things correctly, the game actually does not use the ratings at all. Those are just guidelines for the user. The game uses the predicted stats. Thus, making a player have a higher speed due to increasing his runs scored is NOT going to make him steal more bases or hit more triples.

[kenny1234]

OK - but does giving him more Runs Scored change him at all? If so then that is a problem because it is very dependent on the lineup.

The other example might be better. When setting predicted stats for walks do you (or FRS) take into account the other players in the lineup. The quality of a player hitting after a player does affect how many walks they will get - but shouldn't affect their own ability to draw a walk. Barry Bonds drew a lot of walks because he had a good eye - but he would have drawn less walks hitting in front of A-Rod. But who hits behind him shouldn't change how he rates in the game because it can change so easily.

I realize these effects probably aren't large - but FRS's post made it sound like he was taking them into account and that doesn't seem right to me. I guess I would think that the ratings used by the game (however they are actually defined) should be about the player and have nothing to do with the lineup in which they play. Thus the predicted stats should be those that would be expected in an arbitrary lineup situation. I realize this makes player creation harder - and it seems reasonable that the difference is not worth worrying about. I just don't think it makes sense to adjust Predicted Stats based on the lineup in which they play.

At the same time if predicted stats would change because a player changed home ballparks then I would argue that this is a similar problem. It doesn't really matter - the rosters created by FRS and you are very good and I appreciate the work that you put into them. I was just adding my two cents given his previous comment.

[FRENCHREDSOX]

OK - but does giving him more Runs Scored change him at all? If so then that is a problem because it is very dependent on the lineup.

The other example might be better. When setting predicted stats for walks do you (or FRS) take into account the other players in the lineup. The quality of a player hitting after a player does affect how many walks they will get - but shouldn't affect their own ability to draw a walk. Barry Bonds drew a lot of walks because he had a good eye - but he would have drawn less walks hitting in front of A-Rod. But who hits behind him shouldn't change how he rates in the game because it can change so easily.

I realize these effects probably aren't large - but FRS's post made it sound like he was taking them into account and that doesn't seem right to me. I guess I would think that the ratings used by the game (however they are actually defined) should be about the player and have nothing to do with the lineup in which they play. Thus the predicted stats should be those that would be expected in an arbitrary lineup situation. I realize this makes player creation harder - and it seems reasonable that the difference is not worth worrying about. I just don't think it makes sense to adjust Predicted Stats based on the lineup in which they play.

At the same time if predicted stats would change because a player changed home ballparks then I would argue that this is a similar problem. It doesn't really matter - the rosters created by FRS and you are very good and I appreciate the work that you put into them. I was just adding my two cents given his previous comment.

One of the problems is IBBs in BM they are taken as normal BBs & actually "screw the system" & actually over value EYE but one can only work with the tools one is given .;)


I (& I cant answer for HGM) use ZiPs & Last Years' stats as BASIS & then do adjust for Line-ups strengths & weaknesses,especially in the NL (due pitch around & IBBs) it is NOT a major adjustment but a fact that certain players will get IBBed (Bonds is the best EVER example of IBBing in a weak line up).As I said Lee is slated for more walks because of his extra-ordinary last 2 seasons plus a weaker line up (at 2B/3B) & a fall off by Berkman - not a great deal but higher than the 50 ish he has averaged career wise (I predicted 66 actually) & gets a .294/.368/.528 Line.



but he would have drawn less walks hitting in front of A-Rod. But who hits behind him shouldn't change how he rates in the game because it can change so easily.

Well the way the game works this is not true ---- stats produce ratings & thus who hits where does (like IRL) affect directly the stats produced.Simply put 2 out,man ON SECOND,& 8th batter up with a NL pitcher next - what does
90% of managers do ? They walk the 8th guy.... same for great batters (see Game 1 of the season - they decide to walk Big Papi to get at the "weaker" hitter)

[kenny1234]

One of the problems is IBBs in BM they are taken as normal BBs & actually "screw the system" & actually over value EYE but one can only work with the tools one is given .;)

I (& I cant answer for HGM) use ZiPs & Last Years' stats as BASIS & then do adjust for Line-ups strengths & weaknesses,especially in the NL (due pitch around & IBBs) it is NOT a major adjustment but a fact that certain players will get IBBed (Bonds is the best EVER example of IBBing in a weak line up).As I said Lee is slated for more walks because of his extra-ordinary last 2 seasons plus a weaker line up (at 2B/3B) & a fall off by Berkman - not a great deal but higher than the 50 ish he has averaged career wise (I predicted 66 actually) & gets a .294/.368/.528 Line.


My question is whether the stats are adjusted up or down for lineup strengths. If you want to predict how many walks a player will get in the coming year it is reasonable to take their previous year and then adjust them upwards if that makes sense given their lineup (ie. the good hitter that followed them in the lineup is no longer on the team).

Alternatively, if you want to estimate their ability in taking walks you would take their previous year and adjust that based on factors that affected that year. So a player that walked 100 times in a weak lineup would only be predicted to walk 80 times in an average lineup. Thus their ability should be based on the 80 walks - the other 20 walks have nothing to do with the player's "eye".

I think my basic question lies with the idea that "Predicted Stats" is used to estimate ability. Using statistics as the basis for generating ratings is a benefit of the game in that it is easy to understand where the ratings come from. But they should be the stats that would be expected if the player was in a random lineup in an average ballpark - otherwise I think you are counting lineup and ballpark effects twice.

[HoustonGM]

OK - but does giving him more Runs Scored change him at all? If so then that is a problem because it is very dependent on the lineup.
I don't think so. I think it just affects how well he, say, goes from first to third.


At the same time if predicted stats would change because a player changed home ballparks then I would argue that this is a similar problem. It doesn't really matter - the rosters created by FRS and you are very good and I appreciate the work that you put into them. I was just adding my two cents given his previous comment.
The park thing I DO make sure to try and adjust for. As you said, those other things don't really have THAT much weight. However, park effects are huge. I use PECOTA projections as my basis, which DO project a player as he would be playing in a specific park, so changing their stats to reflect a neutral environment is something I try to do, using PECOTA's "equivalent" projections, which are the player's AVG/OBP/SLG projected into a neutral environemnt, as a guideline.

[MJB_919]

Great work but you might want to change Travis Hafners contract. You have him eligible for free agency after 2008 when he should be signed through 2012 with a yearly salary of 14.5 million.

[FRENCHREDSOX]

Great work but you might want to change Travis Hafners contract. You have him eligible for free agency after 2008 when he should be signed through 2012 with a yearly salary of 14.5 million.

I have altered all contracts for release including Codero's etc ;)

[FRENCHREDSOX]

My question is whether the stats are adjusted up or down for lineup strengths. If you want to predict how many walks a player will get in the coming year it is reasonable to take their previous year and then adjust them upwards if that makes sense given their lineup (ie. the good hitter that followed them in the lineup is no longer on the team).

Alternatively, if you want to estimate their ability in taking walks you would take their previous year and adjust that based on factors that affected that year. So a player that walked 100 times in a weak lineup would only be predicted to walk 80 times in an average lineup. Thus their ability should be based on the 80 walks - the other 20 walks have nothing to do with the player's "eye".

I think my basic question lies with the idea that "Predicted Stats" is used to estimate ability. Using statistics as the basis for generating ratings is a benefit of the game in that it is easy to understand where the ratings come from. But they should be the stats that would be expected if the player was in a random lineup in an average ballpark - otherwise I think you are counting lineup and ballpark effects twice.

I agree entirely with you in an Utopic world but one has to consider that these stats affect teams' seasons predictions.The example I gave is an alteration of roughly 8 extra BBs(or IBBs) over a 162 season or 1 every 20 games - I ve done it for every team to varying extents & dependent on "impact players" they have.


One has to remember that predicted stats ARE NOT what the player is going to hit but the guidelines for the sim & is then dependent on strategies/batting position in the line up/injury contingency etc.

[wood34]

FRS, didn't you say something about a roster update coming out today?

I don't feel like reading the whole thread, so just making sure i wasn't imagining this

[JustinM]

You're not, but it'll still be Saturday for several more hours in France. :)

[FRENCHREDSOX]

FRS, didn't you say something about a roster update coming out today?

I don't feel like reading the whole thread, so just making sure i wasn't imagining this

Yes but I postponed it till SUNDAY as teams have to designate DLed players (so that the rosters will be "correct") & some 25 man rosters are going down to the wire eg Jimenez-Washington battle in St Louis (I am waiting on who wins so as to adjust his ratings by +/- 1 point) etc etc ;)

[drock4234]

Yes but I postponed it till SUNDAY as teams have to designate DLed players (so that the rosters will be "correct") & some 25 man rosters are going down to the wire eg Jimenez-Washington battle in St Louis (I am waiting on who wins so as to adjust his ratings by +/- 1 point) etc etc ;)

cool, cool. can't wait. again, i didn't check your update, but your originally released file didin't include RP Randor Bierd, who was a Rule 5 draftee from by the O's from the Tigers, and he's gonna stick in the majors to start the season

[FRENCHREDSOX]

cool, cool. can't wait. again, i didn't check your update, but your originally released file didin't include RP Randor Bierd, who was a Rule 5 draftee from by the O's from the Tigers, and he's gonna stick in the majors to start the season

Have him in as a 78:82 (also Alex Romero who beat out Trot Nixon in AZ)

[HoustonGM]

Kata's still on the Rockies. He resigned on a minor league deal in December.

[bwburke94]

Where's the file?

[HoustonGM]

Kata's still on the Rockies. He resigned on a minor league deal in December.
Correction. He actually did resign with Pittsburgh - today. :)

[Scud_Dawg]

these rosters look great so far, keep up the great work.

[JustinM]

Correction. He actually did resign with Pittsburgh - today. :)

Yeah. A guy at work told me the news, and I couldn't help but laugh out loud.

New regime, same old ****.

[FRENCHREDSOX]

told u so. french when will you be finished with a good roster? just asking estimite if u dont know

I am upto TORONTO (there was/is a semi bug that existed which caused a slow down in that ANY player which had a CSV rating either Batting/Fielding or Pitching gets a MLB start time of 2007.... obviously CLAY forgot to tell me this * & correct them to an appropriate start date )




He introduced the MLB +4 bonus in a BM08 patch to differentiate between minors & majors players BUT didn't explain how.:(

[HoustonGM]

Yeah. A guy at work told me the news, and I couldn't help but laugh out loud.

New regime, same old ****.
Eh, he's just minor league filler who could be an eh utilityman in a pinch. As lnog as they don't give him regular playing time in the big leagues, or use him as anything more than a minor league call up in case of injury, it's fine. It's not wasting resources or...trading a young speedy outfielder for an old washed up pitcher and his entire bloated contract.

[JustinM]

Eh, he's just minor league filler who could be an eh utilityman in a pinch. As lnog as they don't give him regular playing time in the big leagues, or use him as anything more than a minor league call up in case of injury, it's fine. It's not wasting resources or...trading a young speedy outfielder for an old washed up pitcher and his entire bloated contract.

Rajai Davis isn't really what I'd call young, but he probably does have at least a little bit of upside left. Morris really doesn't.

The problem is that for the Pirates, it's never quite that simple. They have Bay, who is supposedly actually healthy this year, McLouth, and Nady starting with Nyjer Morgan waiting his turn as the 4th outfielder. Morgan has all the speed that Davis has along with a better glove, so I'd rather have him around than Davis. This isn't even mentioning that Chris Duffy can be a callup anytime if one of those guys goes down, and Andrew McCutchen could possibly show up later this year, at least in September.

Pittsburgh has a glut of outfielders, but not many starting pitchers with arms that aren't either in danger of falling off or recovering from falling off. I don't think Morris with that contract was the guy to trade for, but I certainly don't disagree with trading Davis for an extra arm.

[FRENCHREDSOX]

Rajai Davis isn't really what I'd call young, but he probably does have at least a little bit of upside left. Morris really doesn't.

The problem is that for the Pirates, it's never quite that simple. They have Bay, who is supposedly actually healthy this year, McLouth, and Nady starting with Nyjer Morgan waiting his turn as the 4th outfielder. Morgan has all the speed that Davis has along with a better glove, so I'd rather have him around than Davis. This isn't even mentioning that Chris Duffy can be a callup anytime if one of those guys goes down, and Andrew McCutchen could possibly show up later this year, at least in September.

Pittsburgh has a glut of outfielders, but not many starting pitchers with arms that aren't either in danger of falling off or recovering from falling off. I don't think Morris with that contract was the guy to trade for, but I certainly don't disagree with trading Davis for an extra arm.

Nice analysis ;) they traded for Morris as a "mentor" for the young crew that they have,knowing they controlled him 07 & 08,& they didnt give up that much.Question is,is Matt gonna be able to help out Maholm & espeically Zach ?? Otherwise it is pretty harsh to judge the Pirates on the 6 months of the new management team - no draft has happened (well 1 has the Rule V in which they got Evan Meek) nor have they the players to upgrade nor the finances to play the FA market.

The team is weak in certain areas,true but does have assets like ex Batting champ Sanchez,Wilson,LaRoche & Snell/Capps as stud Ps.

Also they are starting to build a "reasonable" farm with Walker/McCutcheon but also Lincoln & Moskos - so if they can hang in for 1 or 2 years they could possibly contend.

[HoustonGM]

but I certainly don't disagree with trading Davis for an extra arm.
Neither do I. That's a fine move because, as you said, the Pirates have outfield depth (though not necessarily good outfielders :p). But, trading him for an expensive pitcher thats old and bad is something I disagree with.

I've actually liked what I've seen from the new front office. They haven't really made any signings or trades yet that matter, but from what I've heard Huntington say, he knows his stuff. He's not ignorant to statistical analysis, as so many GM's seem to be, so that's a plus, but we still have to wait and see before we evaluate his actual ability. I think they have a good future because they have a good stable of young, MLB-ready pitchers in Snell, Maholm, and Gorzelanny.

[Scud_Dawg]

Is there an ETA on the final rosters?

[rogue9]

If the traded for Morris in part to help teach the young guys, they picked a good teacher. As a Giants fan I can say the Matt Cain learned a lot from Morris during his time in SF, they were good friends and Cain soaked up a ton of knowledge from Morris.

[FRENCHREDSOX]

Sadly (& I don't know why) when I uploaded 11.06 & tried to run it,it corrupted my Opening Day.mog file - basically it tried to create a backup & failed & shut down the game & when I tried to re open it was a never ending crash >forcing me to unistall & re-install

(Obviously I sent SM my Debugs + crash dump files but basically I lost all the work I had done upto now :( :( ) :(

[lenny180]

Dude--that sucks:(:(

[GoBK]

I downloaded this roster, and resume it...

and I listed the pitchers....sorted in peak..


Kevin Slowey - ovr 98 / peak 99

Brandon Webb - ovr 98 / peak 98

Jake Peavy - ovr 97 / peak 97

Johan Santana - ovr 97 / peak 97

Tom Shearn - ovr 98 / peak 99.....who's this old rookie?(30 years)



Slowey pitched only 66.2 IP.....(ERA 4.73, BAA .288)

Why this young guy get ovr 98???



Rodrigo Lopez - ovr 96 / peak 96

carrer : 65W 65L ERA 4.80....

recent 3 year : 29W 34L ERA 5.22

I....really can't understand.........

[HoustonGM]

See this thread (http://forum.sportsmogul.com/showthread.php?t=173390)

[FRENCHREDSOX]

I downloaded this roster, and resume it...

and I listed the pitchers....sorted in peak..


Kevin Slowey - ovr 98 / peak 99

Brandon Webb - ovr 98 / peak 98

Jake Peavy - ovr 97 / peak 97

Johan Santana - ovr 97 / peak 97

Tom Shearn - ovr 98 / peak 99.....who's this old rookie?(30 years)



Slowey pitched only 66.2 IP.....(ERA 4.73, BAA .288)

Why this young guy get ovr 98???



Rodrigo Lopez - ovr 96 / peak 96

carrer : 65W 65L ERA 4.80....

recent 3 year : 29W 34L ERA 5.22

I....really can't understand.........
Firstly did you put "dont randomize" on in advanced options,if not re start a game ;)

After that There are 2 things different things here which i can & cannot address:

1) Lackey/Webb & Santana those are their ratings,they are that good & still either in their prime or even getting better;
2) the Slowey incident is a "sim engine" decision (bug?) which rates every player under peak age (ie 25 or less) with an extrapolation - this is a problem which no one can sort unless a mog file is created & then manually adjusted.

On that note I have come to the conclusion that by Thursday I will release my mog file (after corruption incident) which should sort out all these "problems" - I have had to edit out the vitals for Lahmans 51 rookies as that was a cause (indirectly) for the delay.As vitals like DOB/Height/Weight/POB/Pitch Velocity have NO bearing on the sim results I think that a stable sim without these details is BETTER than waiting till I have added this "excess baggage".

Also I have & it is intentional left Woody Williams,Rocco Baldelli & Jay Gibbons on their teams with X day of injuries,the reasoning is simple (or it was for me) :

1) The players have been bought out by their respective teams but still count against those teams 2008 payrolls;
2) Williams (& more than likely Baldelli) have retired & thus don't affect sim results;
3) Gibbons is a tougher decision,but as of today he HAS NOT been signed by another MLB franchise but the O's still owed him 12 mill *



* this last one may change in a future update ;)

[FRENCHREDSOX]

Below is Opening Day roster with correct payroll please note that Williams/Gibbons & Baldelli are all still on their teams due to Roll concerns

Included:
1° Every MLB player that played in 2007 with their real stats (thus some who have had a poor season will have a future peak set at a higher level than their actual performance);
2° Top 100 Baseball AMERICA's prospects from start of 2008 but adjusted with their real milb stats & progression;
3° milb.com START of season rankings of each organizations players;
4° BA's top 20 end of season rankings of each Minor Leagues;
5° Every trade upto 22nd March;
6° Each team allocated their 2007 Amateur draftees Rounds 1,Supplemental 1st & Round 2



Instructions:
The first set of instructions is how you would normally go about using my rosters.

1) Unzip the file into your Baseball Mogul 2009 folder (Usually C:\Program Files\Sports Mogul\Baseball 2009).
2) Open Baseball Mogul 2009.
3) Select "Start a New Game of Baseball Mogul."
4) From the dropdown menu next to "Start Year:" select "Custom Universe" and click "Play."
5) From your Baseball Mogul 2009 folder, select the file you want, either Opening Day.mog (or UpToDate.mog) and click "Open."
6) Input your name, choose your team, your difficulty level, and whatever other options you'd like and click "Play."

Use these for best results:

1) Unzip the file into your Baseball Mogul 2009 folder (Usually C:\Program Files\Sports Mogul\Baseball 2009).
2) Open Baseball Mogul 2009.
3) Select "Resume a Previously Saved Game."
4) Select either "Opening Day" or "UpToDate"* and click "Resume Game."
5) Go to League > League Editor.
6) Click "Set All Teams Computer."
7) From the team dropdown menu, select the team you want to play as.
8) Under Team Owner, choose the one with the blank space, and enter your name there.
9) Click "Done."
10) Go to League > Options.
11) Uncheck Commissioner Mode.
12) Start playing.

below are the results of 20 simulated seasons:


20 SEASONS SIMULATED


EAST Won Lost WC LC 1R 1st Wild 2nd 3rd 4th 5+
Baltimore 79.40 82.60 0 0 0 1 1 3 4 6 6
Boston 87.70 74.35 2 1 2 8 4 6 4 1 1
New York 87.50 74.50 1 2 6 9 3 4 2 4 1
Tampa Bay 81.50 80.50 0 0 4 2 3 3 7 4 4
Toronto 78.10 84.00 1 0 0 0 3 4 3 5 8

CENTRAL Won Lost WC LC 1R 1st Wild 2nd 3rd 4th 5+
Chicago 70.50 91.50 0 0 0 0 0 1 2 1 16
Cleveland 82.45 79.55 2 1 1 5 1 6 6 2 1
Detroit 86.00 76.10 2 3 1 12 1 2 2 4 0
Kansas City 80.15 81.85 0 0 1 1 3 6 7 5 1
Minnesota 80.00 82.05 0 0 0 2 1 5 3 8 2

WEST Won Lost WC LC 1R 1st Wild 2nd 3rd 4th 5+
Los Angeles 84.90 77.10 2 3 3 11 0 3 3 3 0
Oakland 79.80 82.25 0 1 1 3 0 7 7 3 0
Seattle 76.00 86.10 0 0 0 0 0 4 4 12 0
Texas 81.45 80.60 0 1 1 6 0 6 6 2 0

EAST Won Lost WC LC 1R 1st Wild 2nd 3rd 4th 5+
Atlanta 88.55 73.50 2 0 2 6 4 8 6 0 0
Florida 72.75 89.25 0 0 0 0 0 0 3 10 7
New York 89.50 72.60 2 1 3 7 3 7 5 1 0
Philadelphia 87.05 75.05 2 0 3 7 4 5 5 3 0
Washington 68.65 93.35 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 6 13

CENTRAL Won Lost WC LC 1R 1st Wild 2nd 3rd 4th 5+
Chicago 84.80 77.30 0 1 3 8 0 6 2 3 1
Cincinnati 78.85 83.25 0 0 0 1 0 3 7 4 5
Houston 79.45 82.65 0 0 0 2 1 3 4 3 8
Milwaukee 80.85 81.15 0 0 1 3 1 4 2 3 8
Pittsburgh 80.10 81.90 0 0 1 3 0 1 3 5 8
St. Louis 77.65 84.35 0 1 1 3 0 3 2 2 10

WEST Won Lost WC LC 1R 1st Wild 2nd 3rd 4th 5+
Arizona 86.40 75.70 1 2 2 5 3 7 4 4 0
Colorado 89.20 72.95 1 1 3 10 2 6 4 0 0
Los Angeles 84.65 77.45 2 2 1 3 2 7 5 5 0
San Diego 79.05 82.95 0 0 0 2 0 0 7 10 1
San Francisco 67.75 94.25 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 19

TEAM FINANCES Attendance Revenue Profit
Arizona Diamondbacks 36053 -97938969 25906720
Atlanta Braves 40668 -64105658 26194639
Baltimore Orioles 29949 -94571118 26622847
Boston Red Sox 33871 -38514879 14913907
Chicago Cubs 38508 -61955894 -5962265
Chicago White Sox 33405 -76838624 -14315002
Cincinnati Reds 24965 94476991 -10822520
Cleveland Indians 30954 105054177 259538
Colorado Rockies 29927 105384039 3828300
Detroit Tigers 40361 -67160497 -29751262
Florida Marlins 20260 57883331 12069407
Houston Astros 40338 -73207401 19797919
Kansas City Royals 22688 82899158 3971682
Los Angeles Angels 43879 -61750679 2333216
Los Angeles Dodgers 51082 -47526827 15684592
Milwaukee Brewers 22731 76254936 -22500475
Minnesota Twins 24530 -102064039 18809581
New York Mets 46109 -36461643 -4112465
New York Yankees 55600 56804700 31565918
Oakland Athletics 25752 -81012301 66927523
Philadelphia Phillies 41111 -65646254 16324980
Pittsburgh Pirates 28323 92441369 16084014
San Diego Padres 31768 -97142105 12285045
San Francisco Giants 29198 -83414959 23978664
Seattle Mariners 37511 -77108683 7406988
St. Louis Cardinals 40772 -54568963 25653698
Tampa Bay Rays 19275 71588124 9249238
Texas Rangers 39280 -73069053 31959410
Toronto Blue Jays 38313 -89674633 -4281456
Washington Nationals 26081 -100162628 40491424

2008 AL MVP
David Ortiz 8
Carlos Pena 4
Alex Rodriguez 2
Travis Hafner 1
Robinson Cano 1
Manny Ramirez 1
Alexis Rios 1
Vladimir Guerrero 1
Miguel Cabrera 1

2008 NL MVP
Matt Holliday 6
David Wright 5
Brad Hawpe 2
Todd Helton 2
Ryan Howard 1
Andruw Jones 1
Garrett Atkins 1
Albert Pujols 1
Mark Teixeira 1

2008 AL CY YOUNG
Justin Verlander 4
C.C. Sabathia 3
Josh Beckett 3
John Lackey 2
Chien-Ming Wang 2
Gil Meche 1
Ian Kennedy 1
Andy Pettitte 1
Roy Halladay 1
Daisuke Matsuzaka 1
Scott Kazmir 1

2008 NL CY YOUNG
Brandon Webb 11
Ben Sheets 2
Derek Lowe 1
Brett Myers 1
John Smoltz 1
Carlos Zambrano 1
Roy Oswalt 1
Tim Hudson 1
Johan Santana 1

2008 AL ROOKIE OF THE YEAR
Daric Barton 7
Scott Moore 5
Charlton Jimerson 1
Ryan Sweeney 1
Matt Tolbert 1
Shelley Duncan 1
Jeff Fiorentino 1
Ben Francisco 1
Bubba Bell 1
Chris Carter 1

2008 NL ROOKIE OF THE YEAR
Geovany Soto 12
Joey Votto 3
Justin Huber 1
Kosuke Fukudome 1
Glenn Williams 1
Paul McAnulty 1
Jayson Nix 1

2008 AL .400 HITTERS

2008 NL .400 HITTERS

2008 AL NO HITTERS
Francisco Liriano 2
Scott Baker 2
John Bale 1
Justin Duchscherer 1
Joe Blanton 1

2008 NL NO HITTERS
John Smoltz 2
Greg Maddux 1
Jason Marquis 1

Andrew Miller 1
Tim Hudson 1
Joel Pineiro 1
Chris Carpenter 1
Mike Hampton 1
Cole Hamels 1
Ryan Dempster 1
Micah Owings 1
Scott Olsen 1
Bronson Arroyo 1
Derek Lowe 1

2008 AL PERFECT GAMES
Kelvim Escobar 1

2008 NL PERFECT GAMES
Cole Hamels 1








* Uptodate will be when I have tweaked the rosters when BM09 comes out & also will have entered in all Vitals CORRECTLY of Lahmans 51 players

[FRENCHREDSOX]

Will in the next update try & integrate City data & vitals for all rookies (although the latter does not affect the sim's results)

[rogue9]

* Uptodate will be when I have tweaked the rosters when BM09 comes out & also will have entered in all Vitals CORRECTLY of Lahmans 51 players

is this left over from a copy paste? cause 09 is out :p

[FRENCHREDSOX]

is this left over from a copy paste? cause 09 is out :p

no its an explaination of the corruption I suffered that "blew up" my roster file WHICH had the vitals of Lahmans 51 players - now I have to save after every 10 or so edits just in case (& thus WAY slower) ;)

[bwburke94]

I suggest lowering Bubba Bell's ratings a bit. I simmed 100 times and he won ALROTY 6 times. Good rosters anyway.

[FRENCHREDSOX]

I suggest lowering Bubba Bell's ratings a bit. I simmed 100 times and he won ALROTY 6 times. Good rosters anyway.

Bubba Bell is an interesting case player - he was outstanding last year in Lancaster & Portland & was set in the rosters to be MLB ready for 09.So winning AL ROTY 6 times is high for a guy I "set" for that start date (actually I am surprised the sim does nt call up Moss to play 1st).So I will tweak it for the next update (set for the end of the month)

Thank you for the compliment,btw.:)

[FRENCHREDSOX]

french do u have a csv file for it?

I did the deafult csv files but have updated them & sent them to Clay for the CD release.However,the csv files have several problems (bugs anyone ?) listed below:
1) When you edit any csv file (except 2008 rosters ofcourse) the sim assumes they have played at the MLB level & issues Lahmans 51 a pre 2008 start date.THIS in itself is illogical & also "boosts" them the 4 points,as Clay introduced in a BM08 patch the MLB bonus.

2) the game WONT accept high OBP (> .300) for pitchers & ignores the csv predictions.Thus low level rookies get boosted to unreal levels.

3) MLB Lahmans players with young start date have randomized Peaks (ie no control over Uptons/Slowey & co peaks).

4) If you dont enter in a csv value then rookies become 150 game players for batters & worse for pitchers - 33 G,33GS,186 IP,810 AB - players & thus starters leading to a circular argument (when considered with 1)



These 4 factors lead to me (& other roster roster makers) to do mog file rosters where these bugs/errors are minimized & can be controlled & enabled a stable roster set with 20 year sim results above.

[FRENCHREDSOX]

Comparison between my rosters (as of today) & HGM roster results :



20 SEASONS SIMULATED


EAST Won Lost

Boston 87.70 74.35
New York 87.50 74.50
Tampa Bay 81.50 80.50
Baltimore 79.40 82.60
Toronto 78.10 84.00

CENTRAL Won Lost
Detroit 86.00 76.10
Cleveland 82.45 79.55
Kansas City 80.15 81.85
Minnesota 80.00 82.05
Chicago 70.50 91.50

WEST Won Lost
Los Angeles 84.90 77.10
Texas 81.45 80.60
Oakland 79.80 82.25
Seattle 76.00 86.10


EAST Won Lost
New York 89.50 72.60
Atlanta 88.55 73.50
Philadelphia 87.05 75.05
Florida 72.75 89.25
Washington 68.65 93.35

CENTRAL Won Lost
Chicago 84.80 77.30
Milwaukee 80.85 81.15
Pittsburgh 80.10 81.90
Houston 79.45 82.65
Cincinnati 78.85 83.25
St. Louis 77.65 84.35

WEST Won Lost
Colorado 89.20 72.95
Arizona 86.40 75.70
Los Angeles 84.65 77.45
San Diego 79.05 82.95
San Francisco 67.75 94.25



HGM rosters below:



20 SEASONS SIMULATED


EAST Won Lost

Boston 91.10 70.90
New York 91.10 70.90
Tampa Bay 89.20 72.80
Toronto 79.65 82.35
Baltimore 70.65 91.35

CENTRAL Won Lost
Detroit 84.35 77.70
Cleveland 83.40 78.60
Minnesota 76.85 85.20
Chicago 73.80 88.20
Kansas City 71.40 90.60

WEST Won Lost
Seattle 84.15 77.90
Los Angeles 83.10 79.00
Oakland 77.35 84.70
Texas 71.40 90.60

EAST Won Lost
New York 98.70 63.30
Atlanta 87.00 75.00
Philadelphia 85.50 76.55
Washington 69.35 92.65
Florida 60.40 101.60

CENTRAL Won Lost
Milwaukee 89.40 72.70
Chicago 86.65 75.45
Cincinnati 80.00 82.00
St. Louis 79.25 82.90
Houston 76.60 85.50
Pittsburgh 72.80 89.20


WEST Won Lost
Los Angeles 96.00 66.05
Arizona 93.05 69.05
Colorado 84.65 77.45
San Diego 79.65 82.40
San Francisco 64.05 97.95


If we compare them they are pretty similar in overall team order - the basic differences are in league/division strength appreciation - HGM "sees" certain teams dominating eg NYMets or Boston/NY Yankees & others being very bad eg SFG or Florida.

Mine are more homogenious in their results (no single team with an average above 90 nor any team below 65 wins) - the differences are they way we composed them HGM uses PECOTA,I used past performance & ZiPs.

Hope it helps ;)

[FRENCHREDSOX]

i like urs go rockies and also will u do a top 25 for each team?

I will be updating rosters every month or so - some teams will get extra prospects as they develop IRL or are added to the MLB roster (eg I have included Timpner the SFG call up in the next update although he is a 74/76 player at best)

For the top 25 it really depends on each teams' farm -----some teams are so depleted it would be waste of time (eg White Sox/Mets) some are already over 25 (eg Rays/Red Sox) BUT I will continually update using the sources available (BA Hot Sheet- MILB )

Also in May update I will have redone the Draft using real College/HS players as IMO here lies a major flaw of BM - too MANY 90+ peaks & way too many HS Ps!

[GOYANKSGONJ]

Saenz was a late cut from their camp; however, IIRC, he signed with somebody else afterwards.

[GOYANKSGONJ]

is this left over from a copy paste? cause 09 is out :p

So, post #61 is the "Opening Day update" with the 25-mans set, etc., which had been previously delayed by the 11.06 corruption error? Correct?

[FRENCHREDSOX]

So, post #61 is the "Opening Day update" with the 25-mans set, etc., which had been previously delayed by the 11.06 corruption error? Correct?

:)

[GOYANKSGONJ]

I take it, that's a yes?

[FRENCHREDSOX]

I take it, that's a yes?

:D

[GOYANKSGONJ]

Yay! I can finally start my league!

:D :) ;)

[HoustonGM]

Saenz was a late cut from their camp; however, IIRC, he signed with somebody else afterwards.
The Nationals announced that they had signed him, but it turned out to be made too soon and he actually didn't sign with them and thus is still a free agent.

[GOYANKSGONJ]

You've got to be a free man for a certain length of time, correct?

:eek:

[FRENCHREDSOX]

Yay! I can finally start my league!

:D :) ;)

You will notice that the 2008 season is very balanced (see the 20 year sim results in this thread (http://forum.sportsmogul.com/showthread.php?t=172188&page=5)) & thus the success in your league will entirely be based ON ABILITY rather than simply getting a large market team.*



* there is (like IRL) 2 exceptions to this being SFG & BAL who are "really" bad sim wise-------- I would suggest that you either:


1) allow these 2 teams to draft at 1 & 2 & move everyone else down 2 slots eg TBD would draft at #3 ; &/or


2) give them 20 mill extra cash so that they "buy" (add in cash in deals) players from other teams or sign FAs to fill out their 25 man roster eg Barry Bonds or Freddy Garcia come to mind.;)

[FRENCHREDSOX]

ur missing jorge campillo for braves

yes I know ;)

[FRENCHREDSOX]

Updated (included now are all vitals for Lahmans 51) & injury updates for Minor Leaguers (including 50 day suspensions),plus call ups & updated Longoria deal ;)

[ohms_law]

I thoght someone asked about this earlier, but I looked back and didn't really see an answer.

Please tell me that you're including an updated Lahman55 (http://baseball1.com/content/view/57/82/) Master.csv file. I really hope that you're not using a 5.1 version...

[FRENCHREDSOX]

I thoght someone asked about this earlier, but I looked back and didn't really see an answer.

Please tell me that you're including an updated Lahman55 (http://baseball1.com/content/view/57/82/) Master.csv file. I really hope that you're not using a 5.1 version...

LOL Lahmans 51 ARE rookies who dont have a real Lahmans file eg Jed Lowrie is "lowrije51"

[ohms_law]

Ah, gotcha...

[HoustonGM]

Just for the future, it'd probably be better to refer to them as simply "prospects." Outside of roster editors really, the lahman data doesn't mean anything to users. If I didn't edit rosters, I wouldn't know what "lahman 51's" mean.

[FRENCHREDSOX]

Just for the future, it'd probably be better to refer to them as simply "prospects." Outside of roster editors really, the lahman data doesn't mean anything to users. If I didn't edit rosters, I wouldn't know what "lahman 51's" mean.

You are probably right - just wanted to distinguish between rookie MILBers (who lacked Vitals) & those with MLB stats.:)

[HoustonGM]

You could write "players with no MLB experience" but I tihnk it's simpler to just say prospects.

[Pete4256]

Joe Dillon does not appear because his code name "dillojo01" is in conflict with a player from 1875 ... John Dillon (who played in 1 game and had 1 at bat).

Go into your INPUT / PLAYER folder and open each of the cvs files and change each listing from "dillojo01" to dillojo02" and Joe Dillon will appear in the game.

[FRENCHREDSOX]

Joe Dillon does not appear because his code name "dillojo01" is in conflict with a player from 1875 ... John Dillon (who played in 1 game and had 1 at bat).

Go into your INPUT / PLAYER folder and open each of the cvs files and change each listing from "dillojo01" to dillojo02" and Joe Dillon will appear in the game.

THX will update the roster file ;)

[FRENCHREDSOX]

A 2 new updates will be out for May 1,there will be:

1° Opening DAY mog .;&

2° Uptodate Mog.

These mogs' are essentially tweaked versions of V1.01 with some added players & most importantly an adjustment taking into account Month 1 real stats (for example reflecting the burn down of Zito - he will lose 2/3 points in ratings & an increase in ERA & vice versa for Lee (CLE)

[FRENCHREDSOX]

Latest update although the season is barely a month old there are certain tendencies - Oakland rookies playing better than expected/some players in real decline etc etc.

Anyways I have update both Opening day & Uptodate (MAY file) tweaking players to include April stats/tendency (for example Zito & Matt Morris "die" whereas Lincecum gets a "boost")

All call ups,DFAs & trades included plus updated salaries (eg Longoria)

[FRENCHREDSOX]

Here ARE the results of a 1 year sim done 20 fold


20 SEASONS SIMULATED


EAST Won Lost WC LC 1R 1st Wild 2nd 3rd 4th 5+
Baltimore 73.95 88.05 0 0 0 0 0 3 5 4 8
Boston 93.95 68.05 5 1 5 10 2 4 0 0 0
New York 82.75 79.35 0 0 1 9 4 9 2 0 0
Tampa Bay 83.35 78.75 1 0 0 1 2 4 7 4 1
Toronto 77.60 84.40 0 0 0 0 0 0 6 7 7

CENTRAL Won Lost WC LC 1R 1st Wild 2nd 3rd 4th 5+
Chicago 73.55 88.45 0 0 1 2 0 0 5 1 12
Cleveland 84.10 77.90 2 1 2 9 1 3 3 5 0
Detroit 81.90 80.20 0 0 2 3 2 8 4 4 1
Kansas City 76.70 85.30 0 0 0 2 2 4 2 8 4
Minnesota 81.65 80.35 0 0 2 4 2 5 6 2 3

WEST Won Lost WC LC 1R 1st Wild 2nd 3rd 4th 5+
Los Angeles 91.80 70.30 1 3 5 14 0 3 3 0 0
Oakland 80.20 81.90 1 0 2 3 2 5 5 7 0
Seattle 74.50 87.50 0 0 0 0 0 1 9 10 0
Texas 81.55 80.45 0 2 0 3 3 11 3 3 0

EAST Won Lost WC LC 1R 1st Wild 2nd 3rd 4th 5+
Atlanta 80.55 81.45 1 0 0 0 1 5 7 6 2
Florida 80.30 81.75 0 0 3 3 0 1 5 9 2
New York 88.55 73.50 0 1 5 5 3 7 7 1 0
Philadelphia 91.95 70.10 1 2 2 12 2 7 1 0 0
Washington 70.75 91.25 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 4 16

CENTRAL Won Lost WC LC 1R 1st Wild 2nd 3rd 4th 5+
Chicago 85.80 76.25 0 3 0 8 2 6 2 1 3
Cincinnati 78.85 83.15 0 1 1 4 0 2 4 4 6
Houston 77.20 84.85 0 1 1 2 0 0 9 2 7
Milwaukee 75.20 86.80 0 0 1 1 1 2 1 3 13
Pittsburgh 79.05 82.95 0 1 0 4 0 2 2 7 5
St. Louis 79.60 82.45 0 0 1 1 1 8 2 3 6

WEST Won Lost WC LC 1R 1st Wild 2nd 3rd 4th 5+
Arizona 92.20 69.85 3 3 3 11 5 7 2 0 0
Colorado 82.50 79.50 0 1 2 3 1 2 8 6 1
Los Angeles 87.10 74.95 2 0 1 6 3 8 4 2 0
San Diego 78.15 83.85 0 0 0 0 1 3 6 8 3
San Francisco 68.55 93.45 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 4 16

TEAM FINANCES Attendance Revenue Profit
Arizona Diamondbacks 48039 -63152539 54217866
Atlanta Braves 49224 -32690127 58514751
Baltimore Orioles 19296 84476933 -5539890
Boston Red Sox 33871 -17415074 35050551
Chicago Cubs 38884 -53382948 2169649
Chicago White Sox 43200 -42373697 21424393
Cincinnati Reds 31435 -100478489 6658539
Cleveland Indians 37719 -89586377 15631165
Colorado Rockies 35661 -91673052 18988743
Detroit Tigers 41145 -45190814 -13975042
Florida Marlins 36527 93605424 59315375
Houston Astros 41994 -57402045 36479443
Kansas City Royals 28438 102410781 16665687
Los Angeles Angels 45049 -55827717 5140759
Los Angeles Dodgers 55581 -34922880 30241503
Milwaukee Brewers 21012 87303108 -11182429
Minnesota Twins 25960 -97965957 25703814
New York Mets 46500 -21237436 8335302
New York Yankees 55601 58246741 32596259
Oakland Athletics 16381 89807736 23668095
Philadelphia Phillies 43012 -53413066 34314655
Pittsburgh Pirates 39554 -92043327 52559935
San Diego Padres 35338 -85048924 19144857
San Francisco Giants 29665 -82212932 26210738
Seattle Mariners 41347 -65452992 9895242
St. Louis Cardinals 46493 -31489840 51553250
Tampa Bay Rays 26070 89139949 12662465
Texas Rangers 24999 97563613 -9556961
Toronto Blue Jays 49164 -51119738 41468695
Washington Nationals 17355 82140298 5280252

2008 AL MVP
Manny Ramirez 6
David Ortiz 3
Casey Kotchman 3
Nick Markakis 2
Magglio Ordonez 1
Miguel Cabrera 1
Vladimir Guerrero 1
Justin Morneau 1
Eric Hinske 1
David Murphy 1

2008 NL MVP
Albert Pujols 8
Matt Holliday 4
Chase Utley 2
Lance Berkman 2
Aramis Ramirez 1
Adam Dunn 1
Pat Burrell 1
Derrek Lee 1

2008 AL CY YOUNG
Josh Beckett 3
John Lackey 3
Jon Garland 2
Justin Verlander 2
Ervin Santana 1
Nick Blackburn 1
Carlos Silva 1
Scott Kazmir 1
Jason Jennings 1
Nate Robertson 1
Chien-Ming Wang 1
Daisuke Matsuzaka 1
C.C. Sabathia 1
Fausto Carmona 1

2008 NL CY YOUNG
Brandon Webb 13
Johan Santana 1
Roy Oswalt 1
Derek Lowe 1
Aaron Harang 1
Jason Schmidt 1
Jake Peavy 1
Carlos Zambrano 1

2008 AL ROOKIE OF THE YEAR
David Murphy 6
Daric Barton 6
Jacoby Ellsbury 3
Kosuke Fukudome 1
Ryan Sweeney 1
Garrett Jones 1
Evan Longoria 1
Bryan LaHair 1

2008 NL ROOKIE OF THE YEAR
Geovany Soto 9
Joey Votto 7
Kosuke Fukudome 1
J.R. Towles 1
Seth Smith 1
Brian Barton 1

2008 AL .400 HITTERS

2008 NL .400 HITTERS

2008 AL NO HITTERS
John Lackey 2
Andy Pettitte 2
Ervin Santana 2
Zack Greinke 1
Javier Vazquez 1
Kevin Millwood 1
Boof Bonser 1
A.J. Burnett 1
Cliff Lee 1
Daniel Cabrera 1

2008 NL NO HITTERS
Brett Myers 2
Odalis Perez 1
Kyle Kendrick 1
Barry Zito 1
Shawn Chacon 1
Tim Hudson 1
Ian Snell 1
Mark Redman 1
Chris Young 1
Chris Carpenter 1
Tim Lincecum 1
Jason Hirsh 1
Rick VandenHurk 1

2008 AL PERFECT GAMES

2008 NL PERFECT GAMES
Chris Carpenter 1

[SirKodiak]

FRS, you should use [code] rather than [quote] for those lists. [code] uses monospace characters so everything lines up and spaces are not discarded as whitespace.

Also, I was wondering, if you use the schedule I produced when you save your mog, will those using it have it (for the first season) even if they don't have the my schedule file?

[HoustonGM]

Also, I was wondering, if you use the schedule I produced when you save your mog, will those using it have it (for the first season) even if they don't have the my schedule file?
I'm not sure....the latest update I posted was saved after I loaded your schedule file into it. You could try removing (renaming, etc.) your schedule file in the Schedules template and starting a game with my update and see how it is.

[FRENCHREDSOX]

FRS, you should use [code] rather than [quote] for those lists. [code] uses monospace characters so everything lines up and spaces are not discarded as whitespace.

Also, I was wondering, if you use the schedule I produced when you save your mog, will those using it have it (for the first season) even if they don't have the my schedule file?

thx for the advice & no I used default schedule for the simulations

[FRENCHREDSOX]

Thursday I will be releasing a "headshot mod" of all players I could find & 99% of hi res MLBers with their right team.

[FRENCHREDSOX]

Latest Update

Includes now:

1) Revenue Sharing formulated data (http://forum.sportsmogul.com/showthread.php?t=174080&page=13) as used in the Y4 thread* - this is very important change in my eyes (& others it seems from Posts) & stops large markets dominating & at the same time allows small markets to re-sign their Arbitration players in 2011+

2) Updated ratings to include tendencies of the first 6 weeks (eg Webb & Lee's dominance in pitching but also the improved play of supposed "bad" teams eg SFG/FLA) & corrected stadium data

3) Includes latest contracts (eg Kazmir & Braun)

4) Call ups of rookies (Hinshaw of SFG/Dolsi DET etc)


The 2 files are different because of DFAs/trades & Waivers with obviously the Opening Day mog being the same players BUT on their OD roster. ;)



* Many thanks to Catknight who provided the Adjusted City Data

[FRENCHREDSOX]

which one is current roster?

Well Opening Day is exactly that OPENING DAY,whereas the MAY roster roster is current.;)

[FRENCHREDSOX]

Now that the draft is upon us I will have a JUNE update up Sunday with:

1) all top 60 draftees on their new clubs
2) update of MLB & milb transactions (eg Melillo to Jays) &
3) a reassessment (tweak) of the players' ratings to concord with their actual season play to date (eg monster season by Chipper Jones or breakdown of Jim Thome or the peak of some prospects upped or down)


I will also add a small photo set of the draftees concerned ;)

[mooseman74]

If you don't mind, could you improve JP Arencibia's ratings/projections? He's completely mashing at high A ball.....he'll be in AA by the end of the month at this rate....definitely progressing quickly. Also, Brian Pettway is now a pitcher for the Jays farm system....formerly an OF (not sure if he was on your rosters or not....can't remember). And.....SP Kyle Ginley is completely dominating so far in A ball....he's a combined 10-0 with and ERA under 2 in both low and high A....he's another good looking prospect. :)

[FRENCHREDSOX]

If you don't mind, could you improve JP Arencibia's ratings/projections? He's completely mashing at high A ball.....he'll be in AA by the end of the month at this rate....definitely progressing quickly. Also, Brian Pettway is now a pitcher for the Jays farm system....former an OF (not sure if he was on your rosters or not....can't remember). And.....SP Kyle Ginley is completely dominating so far in A ball....he's a combined 10-0 with and ERA under 2 in both low and high A....he's another good looking prospect. :)

Funnily you should mention JP I have already upped both his overall & peak BECAUSE of his play this season ;) Ginley I have also added but his upside is pretty low (from reports) looks like Rowdy Hardy clone of last year....;)

[GOYANKSGONJ]

Only Sunday? LOL!

;)

[FRENCHREDSOX]

Only Sunday? LOL!

;)

Well firstly the draft HASNT finished & secondly I do have a life OUTSIDE of BM (the European Soccer Championships start Saturday)

[mooseman74]

Can you also improve Shaun Marcum, Jesse Litsch and Dustin McGowan? They've been unbelievable so far this year.....carrying the Jays during their offensive struggles.

[FRENCHREDSOX]

Can you also improve Shaun Marcum, Jesse Litsch and Dustin McGowan? They've been unbelievable so far this year.....carrying the Jays during their offensive struggles.

Well I have them all "pretty" well rated (in the high 80's) but I wont adjust them greatly because their ratings will "stick" for 5/10 years & non projects,IMO,as in the Beckett/Hallyday/Webb class.

Actually you mention the Jays bats struggling which is exactly what I had predicted them to do,although NOT as bad.The real adjustments will be the peaks/overalls of the minors as some players have really shown REAL improvement whereas some have regressed (poor Homer Bailey comes to mind).

I try & make it that sim holds up over time & doesn't produce a rash of 95+ teams by 2012 on.

btw It doesnt stop you going into commish & improving them ;)

[FRENCHREDSOX]

OK some BAD news whilst editing my rosters the game crashed & now I have a major major bug WHICH won't allow me to run any 2008 games (I cab run any year upto & including 2007 but NOT starting 2008)

So until I get this fixed the draft update is on HOLD - I don't know if it a SM issue or just my comp getting old/"infected".

Sorry! LOOKS like I will be preparing my rosters for BM10 from now on :( unless someone can fix this issue

[GOYANKSGONJ]

Do you still have your 2008Rosters.csv file based upon either your Opening Day and/or May updated file? If so, I can probably help you out, even if it's in the interim, if I can figure out what the last transaction you processed on either of the respective updates was. From there, I can use the various transaction sources out there to bring things up-to-date as of today.

;)

[FRENCHREDSOX]

Do you still have your 2008Rosters.csv file based upon either your Opening Day and/or May updated file? If so, I can probably help you out, even if it's in the interim, if I can figure out what the last transaction you processed on either of the respective updates was. From there, I can use the various transaction sources out there to bring things up-to-date as of today.

;)

they are in the game sir ANYWAYS thanks for the help but as I said I am doing the first "3" rounds of the draft (am upto Milwaukee) & some re ratings the "bug" I encountered is fixed so I should be able to post an update Monday ;)


ps I am also doing a team by team photo set it takes more time but that way I will be able to post them here instead of going thru a server

[FRENCHREDSOX]

June/Draft Update

includes each team's first 4 round selections
reassessment of minor leaguers (prospects) & MLB call ups (eg Ziegler of OAK)
Waivers & minor league trades

[redsoxfan29]

One minor mistake I noticed.. you misspelled Jon Van Every's name as "Van Emery", he's on the Red Sox.

[FRENCHREDSOX]

One minor mistake I noticed.. you misspelled Jon Van Every's name as "Van Emery", he's on the Red Sox.

Woops you are right* a finger slip ;) btw here is his photo which I didnt have before :





* Will be updated in the July/Deadline Update ;)

[Cochran]

Just curious as to why you have Corey Patterson's eye rating as 100 (+/- 3)... He is a strikeout machine. He did cut down on his strikeouts in the last couple of years, but he still doesn't see the ball like Barry Bonds.

[FRENCHREDSOX]

Just curious as to why you have Corey Patterson's eye rating as 100 (+/- 3)... He is a strikeout machine. He did cut down on his strikeouts in the last couple of years, but he still doesn't see the ball like Barry Bonds.

Nice catch - you are TOTALLY right - what happened is I accidentally inverted BBs & Ks below is the corrected file ( ;) ) & Corey has a 73 eye.

[FRENCHREDSOX]

Next update will be August 1/2 after the trade deadline (& most probably the penultimate before my end of end of season mog) & will include all trades (eg CC/Harden deals plus a few "extra" prospects)

:)

[Konnan511]

FRS, I remember when you did your first rosters, you've come a long way with your rosters and I want to say good job!

[GOYANKSGONJ]

Hey, FRS, do u have a preliminary deadline .mog u can post for us die-hard fans at this point?

[FRENCHREDSOX]

Hey, FRS, do u have a preliminary deadline .mog u can post for us die-hard fans at this point?

Use the June update I dont want to put out a roster with 15 days to go ALSO in those 15 days a LOT of 1st rounders from the draft will also sign & sometimes those contracts are MLB ready (eg last year Price)

[knuckleballerMC]

Very good rosters, I noticed a couple minor things with pitchers and certain pitches (for instance, Edwar Ramirez is most known for his changeup, he doesn't have a changeup in the file), Joba has a forkball in the file. Otherwise its well done.

[DarthJaker]

i just noticed that u put brett wallace on the a's and he was drafted by the cardinals

[FRENCHREDSOX]

i just noticed that u put brett wallace on the a's and he was drafted by the cardinals

Thx my error it is adjusted for the next update :)

[FRENCHREDSOX]

July UPDATE

Includes:

1) ALL deals up to & including July 14 eg Sabathia-Harden etc

2) First 3 rounds of 2008 draft on their APPROPRIATE team eg Tim Beckham to Rays - in consequence the 2008 is purposely VERY poor as each IRL team has received their Top draftees

3) Complete re valuation of every MLB starter & bench player based on 1ST half actual stats

4) re assessment of prospects (again based on 1st half production)

5) Using Revenue sharing data* for a MORE balanced League (attempt to solve the Y4 problem)



* NB the City file has been altered to obtain the "correct" after RS income that each team ACTUALLY receives.



BELOW is the average of 30 sims



30 SEASONS SIMULATED


EAST Won Lost WC LC 1R 1st Wild 2nd 3rd 4th 5+
Baltimore 75.28 86.72 1 0 0 0 1 1 6 7 15
Boston 95.10 66.90 8 1 9 20 6 7 2 0 0
New York 86.24 75.76 1 3 1 6 5 9 8 6 0
Tampa Bay 83.45 78.62 0 0 3 3 5 10 9 6 1
Toronto 76.00 86.00 0 0 2 0 2 2 4 10 13

CENTRAL Won Lost WC LC 1R 1st Wild 2nd 3rd 4th 5+
Chicago 78.21 83.79 0 0 1 6 0 4 9 4 6
Cleveland 82.31 79.72 2 1 2 8 3 8 2 5 6
Detroit 78.52 83.48 1 0 2 4 1 8 4 5 8
Kansas City 77.14 84.90 0 0 1 1 1 4 7 10 7
Minnesota 83.07 78.97 1 1 2 10 2 5 7 5 2

WEST Won Lost WC LC 1R 1st Wild 2nd 3rd 4th 5+
Los Angeles 88.97 73.07 5 3 4 19 1 5 5 0 0
Oakland 78.34 83.66 0 1 0 2 0 10 9 8 0
Seattle 75.38 86.69 0 0 1 2 2 8 6 13 0
Texas 76.76 85.38 0 0 1 6 0 6 9 8 0

EAST Won Lost WC LC 1R 1st Wild 2nd 3rd 4th 5+
Atlanta 82.79 79.24 0 1 2 2 4 6 13 8 0
Florida 75.72 86.28 0 0 1 1 0 1 7 14 6
New York 90.72 71.28 3 6 5 15 5 11 1 2 0
Philadelphia 90.52 71.48 0 3 5 11 3 11 7 0 0
Washington 66.69 95.31 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 5 23

CENTRAL Won Lost WC LC 1R 1st Wild 2nd 3rd 4th 5+
Chicago 83.48 78.59 2 0 2 5 0 8 4 4 8
Cincinnati 72.59 89.41 0 0 0 0 0 1 3 4 21
Houston 79.17 82.86 0 2 0 3 1 4 7 4 11
Milwaukee 80.00 82.03 1 0 0 4 0 0 8 5 12
Pittsburgh 81.31 80.76 0 1 0 4 3 7 3 10 5
St. Louis 89.38 72.69 1 0 6 13 4 9 4 2 1

WEST Won Lost WC LC 1R 1st Wild 2nd 3rd 4th 5+
Arizona 90.14 71.90 1 4 4 15 4 9 4 1 0
Colorado 75.93 86.07 0 0 0 0 0 3 10 9 7
Los Angeles 89.00 73.03 2 2 4 12 3 10 5 2 0
San Diego 79.41 82.62 0 0 0 2 2 7 8 7 5
San Francisco 68.79 93.21 0 0 0 0 0 0 2 10 17



2008 AL MVP
Manny Ramirez 4
Justin Morneau 3
Casey Kotchman 3
Alex Rodriguez 3
Nick Markakis 2
Aubrey Huff 2
Kevin Youkilis 2
Ian Kinsler 2
Josh Hamilton 1
Jermaine Dye 1
Curtis Granderson 1
Miguel Cabrera 1
Ben Francisco 1
Carlos Quentin 1
Carl Crawford 1
Xavier Nady 1

2008 NL MVP
Albert Pujols 19
Ryan Ludwick 5
Lance Berkman 2
Matt Holliday 1
Ryan Braun 1
Chris Young 1

2008 AL CY YOUNG
Josh Beckett 9
Roy Halladay 5
Paul Byrd 4
Jered Weaver 2
James Shields 1
Jon Garland 1
Ervin Santana 1
Andy Pettitte 1
Darrell Rasner 1
Scott Feldman 1
Tim Wakefield 1
Justin Duchscherer 1
Carlos Silva 1

2008 NL CY YOUNG
Brandon Webb 11
Danny Haren 7
Johan Santana 2
Jake Peavy 2
Derek Lowe 2
Chris Young 1
Adam Wainwright 1
Jamie Moyer 1
John Smoltz 1
Ben Sheets 1

2008 AL ROOKIE OF THE YEAR
Ben Francisco 12
Evan Longoria 8
David Murphy 7
Alexei Ramirez 1
Jacoby Ellsbury 1

2008 NL ROOKIE OF THE YEAR
Geovany Soto 16
Joey Votto 10
Michael Bourn 1
Justin Huber 1
Kosuke Fukudome 1

[rockiesfan4ever]

You may wanna check out Joakim Soria. You (I am using the first update) have him only throwing a Fastball and a Knuckler. IRL I know he has a nasty 12-6 curve (watch him pitch in the ASG) and a "devastating" changeup (Said by Dayton Moore); I am trying to see if I can get an official list of pitches.

[FRENCHREDSOX]

You may wanna check out Joakim Soria. You (I am using the first update) have him only throwing a Fastball and a Knuckler. IRL I know he has a nasty 12-6 curve (watch him pitch in the ASG) and a "devastating" changeup (Said by Dayton Moore); I am trying to see if I can get an official list of pitches.

Yes I know but getting REAL pitch types (http://forum.sportsmogul.com/showthread.php?t=169584) has been a difficulty that even Clay hasn't sorted out yet & would like too- as for their actual effects they are ZERO on the sim development (but I will alter it for the last update)

[rockiesfan4ever]

Ok, thanks.

[FRENCHREDSOX]

Deadline Update

Thus included all Deadline deals (my real only concern is how to handle the Manny deal as Dodgers dont pay his salary so I compromised & upped their cash by 20 mill to cover his 0 cost effect & lowered the Sox by 13 mill - as that is what they will have to pay out less Bay's salary)


Also adjusted some Minor leaguers (added Maday for example of SFG who has been dominant in A ball)












P.S. this will be the last official Update - I may do one in September for the Rookie call ups

[TJGOnee]

Deadline Update

Thus included all Deadline deals (my real only concern is how to handle the Manny deal as Dodgers dont pay his salary so I compromised & upped their cash by 20 mill to cover his 0 cost effect & lowered the Sox by 13 mill - as that is what they will have to pay out less Bay's salary)


Also adjusted some Minor leaguers (added Maday for example of SFG who has been dominant in A ball)












P.S. this will be the last official Update - I may do one in September for the Rookie call ups


LaTroy Hawkins is still on the Yankees. He was dealt late Wednesday night. Otherwise, great job here!

[redsoxfan29]

Bobby Kielty is still on the Red Sox roster, he was released a couple of weeks ago.

Chad Spann (also on the Red Sox) was released a couple of days ago.

[HeraldSports]

i was just going to say about Hawkins, but great job with these. They are much appreciated.

[RedsoxRockies]

Griffey was traded to the White Sox and you have him still in Cincinatti, but everything else looks good

[rogue9]

If you do do another update, would you possibly be able to add Pablo Sandoval to the Giants roster? He is a catcher in A atm. He was in the futures game and is having a great season this year, and a pretty good one last year.

Thanks in advance.

[FRENCHREDSOX]

ok I am in the midst of doing BMO rosters (hopefully for an update) so at the sam time I am updating both my roster sets - Opening Day & Trade Deadline (so NO Dunn to the Backs) but with added players thanks to call ups & Draft signees (eg Hissey/Melville)


The rosters will be an extrapolation based on the 08 season so far with a hint of yearly predictions (ie if a Player is really under/over performing)

Roster release set for August 25/26

[FRENCHREDSOX]

Update

The 2 Sets include:

Revenue Sharing that Catknight & I produced in the Y4 thread

Stadium data is correct (based on ESPN)


All players that have played in the MLB this season

1st 3 rounds of the Draft on their correct team plus some Highly rated draftees who slipped because of signability issues (eg Melville or Westmoreland) but DID sign.All draftees have been set to 90 day injuries to reflect that they DID NOT play till post DRAFT & the 2008 Draft itself is poor on purpose.

Top 30 Prospects per team unless the team has a poor system.

A re write of the above to include BREAKOUT seasons (eg Freddy Freeman)

The ratings are based on 75% 2008 Season ACTUAL stats & 25% 2008 ZiPs (http://www.baseballthinkfactory.org/files/oracle/discussion/2008_zips_projections_for_diamond_mind_9_and_microsoft_excel_build_1/)

The only difference between the 2 are simply 1 is Opening DAY rosters set & the other post trade set.Personally I recommend the former as it is more realistic & will allow you more leeway for trades.

Below is a 25 1 Season sim result


25 SEASONS SIMULATED


EAST Won Lost WC LC 1R 1st Wild 2nd 3rd 4th 5+
Baltimore 70.20 91.80 0 0 0 0 0 0 3 1 21
Boston 92.96 69.08 4 1 4 8 6 7 1 2 0
New York 85.88 76.12 2 1 1 7 4 7 6 4 1
Tampa Bay 89.00 71.00 2 1 2 12 1 4 7 10 2
Toronto 82.32 79.72 0 2 2 1 3 7 8 8 1

CENTRAL Won Lost WC LC 1R 1st Wild 2nd 3rd 4th 5+
Chicago 75.40 86.60 0 0 0 1 0 2 5 10 7
Cleveland 84.48 77.60 2 3 2 10 4 7 6 1 1
Detroit 77.80 84.20 0 0 1 1 0 4 9 6 5
Kansas City 73.56 88.44 0 0 0 0 0 3 4 6 12
Minnesota 88.12 73.88 2 0 5 13 2 9 1 2 0

WEST Won Lost WC LC 1R 1st Wild 2nd 3rd 4th 5+
Los Angeles 86.28 75.84 0 0 6 9 3 11 4 1 0
Oakland 76.32 85.68 0 0 1 1 1 3 13 8 0
Seattle 73.52 88.48 0 0 0 0 0 5 5 15 0
Texas 86.96 75.16 2 3 1 15 1 6 3 1 0

EAST Won Lost WC LC 1R 1st Wild 2nd 3rd 4th 5+
Atlanta 77.60 84.44 0 0 0 0 0 2 8 15 0
Florida 79.04 82.96 0 0 0 0 0 4 11 7 3
New York 89.88 72.20 1 3 4 12 0 9 4 0 0
Philadelphia 94.12 68.00 3 3 8 13 6 10 1 1 0
Washington 65.48 96.52 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 2 22

CENTRAL Won Lost WC LC 1R 1st Wild 2nd 3rd 4th 5+
Chicago 84.76 77.24 1 0 2 2 4 12 6 2 3
Cincinnati 72.80 89.20 0 0 0 1 0 0 1 3 20
Houston 79.12 82.88 0 0 1 2 1 4 2 9 8
Milwaukee 80.56 81.44 1 0 1 2 2 4 5 6 8
Pittsburgh 79.32 82.68 0 0 0 1 1 1 8 5 10
St. Louis 91.64 70.36 3 3 1 17 1 4 3 0 1

WEST Won Lost WC LC 1R 1st Wild 2nd 3rd 4th 5+
Arizona 89.24 72.84 0 3 7 14 5 10 1 0 0
Colorado 74.24 87.80 0 0 0 0 0 2 7 9 7
Los Angeles 89.52 72.48 2 2 1 11 5 9 5 0 0
San Diego 72.60 89.40 0 0 0 0 0 2 6 5 12
San Francisco 74.68 87.36 0 0 0 0 0 2 6 11 6

[FRENCHREDSOX]

thats bad for brewers and good job u otherwise thru my rockies should be higher in wins. but also micah bowie is released and did aaron flutz retired or got released?

The results are not "mine" but how BM calculates the numbers (as I said they are 75/25) - also remember that Baseball is not an exact science but a game - a 13 win pitcher IRL can have a 4.60+ ERA on a high UPSIDE team & a good pitcher can have the reverse on a "bad" team (check out Lannan or Guthrie) basically BM sim results show that the Brewers are outperforming IRL & St Louis are underperforming ;)


what u mean the first 3 rounds including first round and compestion round and the 2nd round right because if u do u left charlie backmon of rockies off

3 Rounds = First,Supp First & Second .Players added where BASED on their upside rather than the Overall as IMO it is more interesting to have a 65/90 than a 74/76 :)


As I said elsewhere the numbers are close to IRL & offer a spectrum of talent for each team & MORE IMPORTANTLY the sim is stable post Y4 thanks to the rosters BUT also the City data used.

[FRENCHREDSOX]

but how come charlie blackmon on rockies not created?

lack if info - simple as that ;)

[GOYANKSGONJ]

Any chance you could advise what the financial savings to BOS by suspending Bartolo Colon today (9/19/08) are, as well as what his new contract terms end up being?

[FRENCHREDSOX]

Any chance you could advise what the financial savings to BOS by suspending Bartolo Colon today (9/19/08) are, as well as what his new contract terms end up being?

LOL it affects like 1 or 2 starts .... I wouldn't even factor it in. ;)

[mattygerst]

FRS - Please check your inbox. Thank you.

Matt Gerst

[wayneempire]

Dear Forum.

I've played my first season.....My 1908 Chicago Cubs won the National League. The St. Louis Browns won the American League, although I only played the Cubs, in the National League.

Here's the question? How do play game by game the 1908 World Series match-up of Cubs vs. Browns? I can't figure out how to get the WS started?

wayneempire

[BINGLEBOP]

This is the wrong forum to post this in, but you're new. Just select "Play" and then "Until Playoffs", and then the games will show up. Usually there is a day or two between the last game of the season and when the playoffs start. I think the shortcut is F12 to sim day by day.

[FRENCHREDSOX]

I am working on this years rosters & have some nice numbers coming along but would love someone to do Pitch types for MLBers ;)

[FRENCHREDSOX]

Update ----------- ROSTER set for BM10 (opening day 09)

[Art Vandelay]

Update ----------- ROSTER set for BM10 (opening day 09)

Would it be possible to get these rosters for BM09? Thanks!
-AV

[PGD44]

Would it be possible to get these rosters for BM09? Thanks!
-AV

I would be interested as well. When I try to get the Opening Day file to open it says it is from a beta verion and will not load.

Is this for 2009?

Thanks

[HoustonGM]

It's for 2010.

[michaelg123789]

Hey guys i'm trying to download this roster set for mogul 2006. It says I need to have version 900 or higher of BBM 2006 for it to work.

Anyone know where I can find version 900 of BBM 2k6? I can't seem to find it.

[FRENCHREDSOX]

Hey guys i'm trying to download this roster set for mogul 2006. It says I need to have version 900 or higher of BBM 2006 for it to work.

Anyone know where I can find version 900 of BBM 2k6? I can't seem to find it.

Mikey I sent Ian/JM a copy ;)

[michaelg123789]

Mikey I sent Ian/JM a copy ;)
Well where's my copy? :)

[PGD44]

So , where are the most up to date rosters for baseball Mogul 2009 ? I would like to mess with the game while I am waiting for the latest version.

Thanks

[PGD44]

So , where are the most up to date rosters for baseball Mogul 2009 ? I would like to mess with the game while I am waiting for the latest version.

Thanks

Wow. The new game is out today ? I need to pay better attention.

Are there any recent rosters for BM 2009 though?