Top 100 Posters & Their Posts Per Day

[BINGLEBOP]

Since there aren't enough posts about post counts already! Here's the list of Baseball Mogul's "All Time Greats" (in terms of post count).* :cool:
(*As of May 31, 2008 @ 5:10 AM Binglebop/Central Time)

http://forum.sportsmogul.com/memberlist.php?&order=DESC&sort=posts&pp=30

NAME / NUMBER OF POSTS
1) HoustonGM / 18337
2) ohms law / 17672
3) boomboom / 14688
4) michaelg123789 / 11982
5) FRENCHREDSOX / 10590
6) dabruinss / 10500
7) robinhoodnik / 8304
8) jmarter / 8216
9) daves / 7053
10) scooter12321 / 7011
douglasthedj / 6677
meinknotyou / 6318
shepster / 5101
kingroman / 5052
braves15 / 4931
Kotoll / 4703
SFSteveG / 4686
shutface / 4528
rollsroyce11991 / 4397
20) Clay Dreslough / 4205
TheNamelessPoet / 4142
nblechman / 4042
Rongar / 3931
kingmob / 3893
Sturge / 3851
Jeff Olsen / 3504
yank4251 / 3425
Boomhauer8782 / 3424
nysteinbrenner / 3347
30) Biggles / 3341
discodave1977 / 3307
ras10jr / 3239
scotty / 3214
sportsnut / 3203
dickay / 3096
jardo / 3050
cheddarb / 2953
ssvinny / 2882
askari / 2870
40) jace0221 / 2792
williethebasset / 2786
IdahoYank / 2717
SirKodiak / 2604
thoma / 2580
khkoenig / 2522
Brentsg / 2477
secandido / 2461
tigeraholic / 2441
Tdks / 2407
50) JMO89 / 2373
xamo545 / 2350
oldman919 / 2341
ragecage / 2341
PrinceBuster / 2304
jdiggin / 2291
RickD / 2278
nyyanks1 / 2262
geoshale99 / 2256
vincal609 / 2185
60) Chipper Jones / 2176
bbratichak / 2046
edburns / 2041
haole / 2037
mcpickl / 2006
Mastiphal / 2005
cartman00000001 / 1980
ttaylor24 / 1971
Bgsexy66 / 1958
Wassit3 / 1942
70) stealthdog666 / 1917
kaill / 1875
Dabs / 1826
logan1010 / 1819
petrel / 1814
nuzzy62 / 1814
booberry21 / 1796
metdenn / 1774
Red Sox Fan 734 / 1755
Yentoman / 1732
80) juicepigs1527 / 1719
Scorey1974 / 1717
gen1400 / 1716
Coach Owens / 1705
klousia / 1699
kellys11 / 1680
FritzV / 1605
Catabowl / 1599
CatKnight / 1595
yorkmidi37 / 1580
90) Deke / 1564
takaplan / 1539
TheJay / 1532
Worthy / 1509
cludgate2 / 1497
emiddlet / 1495
JackOften / 1494
lucidi35 / 1474
andyandrews / 1455
RockiesHelton / 1442
100) bigbadred / 1432
179) BINGLEBOP / 718

Of those 100, here they are sorted by their posts per day.
NAME / POSTS PER DAY
1) ohms law / 24.85(!!!)
2) FRENCHREDSOX / 14.21
3) askari / 11.76
4) shepster / 9.25
5) bigbadred / 9.25
6) HoustonGM / 8.67
7) nblechman / 7.84
8) boomboom / 6.78
9) daves / 6.40
10) michaelg123789 / 6.36
dickay / 6.10
TheNamelessPoet / 5.77
douglasthedj / 5.72
Rongar / 5.59
Biggles / 5.25
Coach Owens / 5.04
cludgate2 / 4.84
jmarter / 4.65
dabruinss / 4.55
20) robinhoodnik / 4.46
Kotoll / 4.33
meinknotyou / 4.30
ragecage / 4.29
ras10jr / 3.89
cheddarb / 3.85
SFSteveG / 3.82
CatKnight / 3.63
shutface / 3.62
rollsroyce11991 / 3.59
30) RickD / 3.52
kingroman / 3.47
Boomhauer8782 / 3.35
nuzzy62 / 3.24
bbratichak / 3.14
haole / 3.07
scooter12321 / 2.94
Yentoman / 2.90
vincal609 / 2.83
IdahoYank / 2.70
40) xamo545 / 2.67
SirKodiak / 2.63
ssvinny / 2.62
logan1010 / 2.57
Sturge / 2.33
braves15 / 2.28
gen1400 / 2.28
jdiggin / 2.27
Red Sox Fan 734 / 2.26
discodave1977 / 2.18
50) scotty / 2.13
booberry21 / 2.11
ttaylor24 / 2.03
PrinceBuster / 1.96
juicepigs1527 / 1.89
BINGLEBOP / 1.81
JackOften / 1.76
kingmob / 1.75
Clay Dreslough / 1.65
oldman919 / 1.65
60) kellys11 / 1.65
JMO89 / 1.61
sportsnut / 1.60
Brentsg / 1.49
yank4251 / 1.43
jace0221 / 1.40
Jeff Olsen / 1.38
geoshale99 / 1.38
nysteinbrenner / 1.35
andyandrews / 1.32
70) thoma / 1.31
jardo / 1.29
secandido / 1.26
tigeraholic / 1.26
Dabs / 1.19
williethebasset / 1.15
Tdks / 1.14
edburns / 1.11
Mastiphal / 1.11
Bgsexy66 / 1.10
80) Catabowl / 1.07
khkoenig / 1.05
Chipper Jones / 0.99
Wassit3 / 0.99
TheJay / 0.96
nyyanks1 / 0.95
cartman00000001 / 0.90
stealthdog666 / 0.90
mcpickl / 0.88
kaill / 0.82
90) yorkmidi37 / 0.82
Worthy / 0.82
petrel / 0.81
Scorey1974 / 0.81
emiddlet / 0.78
FritzV / 0.74
metdenn / 0.73
klousia / 0.72
Deke / 0.71
lucidi35 / 0.66
takaplan / 0.61
101) RockiesHelton / 0.59

[BINGLEBOP]

NAME / NUMBER OF POSTS
1) HoustonGM / 18337
2) ohms law / 17672

NAME / POSTS PER DAY
1) ohms law / 24.85(!!!)
6) HoustonGM / 8.67



At this pace, with ohms making 16.18 more posts per day than Houston and being 665 posts behind, he will pass him in 41.16 days. So... July 11th. Will it happen? Stay tuned. :p

[ohms_law]

Nope, not going to happen.
:)

See, those numbers aren't acurate. HGM actually usually posts quite a bit more than I do. The problem is that the forum comes up with that number simply by doing Post count/days. Most people (including HGM) have a significant period of time where they hardly post or eevn don't post at all before they begin posting. I didn't though, which is why my posts per day is so gaudy. It's actually fairly accurate for me, but it's completely inaccurate for HGM and most other people.

[HoustonGM]

Yep. I signed up in 2003, but barely posted until 2005-2006.

[robinhoodnik]

I'd like to see the totals minus the blatant post padding threads. Like countdown/up, this or that, etc.

[RickD]

YANKEES! YANKEES! Oh Sorry....hey I am number 56 whoo hoo....yawn......zzzzzzz

[Rongar]

Whilst you're in an analytical mode, Bingle, would you care to work out the posters with the highest % of Readership and Replies?

[boomboom]

I should be at around 21k post right now with all my post getting deleted. Dabs should be at 19, and Michealg123 has posted around 25k.

[boomboom]

8 of the top 10 have made most of there post in the BMO forums, so of course Ohms and HGM will have the top spot, there post won't get deleted.

[RickD]

So the lesson here is don't post in BMO?

YANKEES!

[FRENCHREDSOX]

8 of the top 10 have made most of there post in the BMO forums, so of course Ohms and HGM will have the top spot, there post won't get deleted.

lol tis life my friend tis life :rolleyes:;)

[FRENCHREDSOX]

Nope, not going to happen.
:)

See, those numbers aren't acurate. HGM actually usually posts quite a bit more than I do. The problem is that the forum comes up with that number simply by doing Post count/days. Most people (including HGM) have a significant period of time where they hardly post or eevn don't post at all before they begin posting. I didn't though, which is why my posts per day is so gaudy. It's actually fairly accurate for me, but it's completely inaccurate for HGM and most other people.

beta also upped your count like by 2000 ish (thanks to updated/yes/"I ve merged posts")

[HoustonGM]

8 of the top 10 have made most of there post in the BMO forums, so of course Ohms and HGM will have the top spot, there post won't get deleted.
Once again, it was the BMO USERS THEMSELVES asking for the old leagues to be deleted. I've skimmed some of those threads, and I don't recall you ever saying that the old dead leagues shouldn't be removed.

[FRENCHREDSOX]

So the lesson here is don't post in BMO?

YANKEES!

No the lesson is "NOT THE YANKEES" Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeh!;)

[HoustonGM]

Really, though, who cares? Is it really that big of a deal that we need to have like 20 threads solely dedicated to post counts?

[FRENCHREDSOX]

Really, though, who cares? Is it really that big of a deal that we need to have like 20 threads solely dedicated to post counts?

Seemingly so,sir,seemingly so; :p (like do we need 20 threads on Sabermetric argumentation? ;) )

[RickD]

I would rather see 20 threads on how awesome the Yankees are!

[FRENCHREDSOX]

I would rather see 20 threads on how awesome the Yankees are!

Yes so would I now where are they DIVISION wise .....:p;):rolleyes:

[HoustonGM]

Seemingly so,sir,seemingly so; :p (like do we need 20 threads on Sabermetric argumentation? ;) )
Talking about a sport we all love is far different than arguing over a fairly meaningless number on a website. :p

[FRENCHREDSOX]

Talking about a sport we all love is far different than arguing over a fairly meaningless number on a website. :p

depends on the VALUE you stake to Sabers HGM,some posters would claim that Sabers argumentation is actually:


arguing over a fairly meaningless number(s) on a website. :p:p:p STRIKE ONE *Joke*

[HoustonGM]

:rolleyes:

[boomboom]

when you spend hours on this forum just to pad your stats, then have the old forums deleted...where you post and aren't bother people..ect.

Also, Who asked for the old forums to be deleted? Which BMO users?

[RickD]

Hours.....padding numbers.....oh my......you could be spending that time rooting for the Yanks in the comeback to the top!

[etothep]

Maybe we could have a list of the top 100 posters by quality instead of quantity...so i can get on it :cool:

[ohms_law]

I'd like to see the totals minus the blatant post padding threads. Like countdown/up, this or that, etc.
That's sort of what kicked this all off you know... About two or three weeks ago I went through and soft deleted all of the pure post padding threads. Then I automated posting a bunch of post padding posts myself, which ended up screwing up the forums and my post count in particular (among others).

when you spend hours on this forum just to pad your stats, then have the old forums deleted...where you post and aren't bother people..ect.

Also, Who asked for the old forums to be deleted? Which BMO users?
Here's a thought, spend hours and hours on the forums answering questions and posting legitimate topics instead.

Anyway, the forums are connected to BMO. If a BMO league is actually deleted, then the forums that the league is connected to must be deleted. If that doesn't happen, then there's going to be a bunch of null pointers, which are a huge problem.

[Red Sox Fan 734]

78 and 48th nice!

[Rongar]

Maybe we could have a list of the top 100 posters by quality instead of quantity...so i can get on it :cool:

...and how could we determine that?...who amongst us can judge? - one man's post is another man's piffle...

[beerchaser]

...and how could we determine that?...who amongst us can judge? - one man's post is another man's piffle...

two points for using the word "piffle".

[CatKnight]

I'm # 88 and # 27! :g:

[RickD]

Yankees! Yankees!

[dabruinss]

I would rather see 20 threads on how awesome the Yankees are!
or dozen or so about how they havent won anything this century.

[dabruinss]

Maybe we could have a list of the top 100 posters by quality instead of quantity...so i can get on it :cool:
well i gues this post wouldnt make it.

[RickD]

Lol....

[BINGLEBOP]

Maybe we could have a list of the top 100 posters by quality instead of quantity...so i can get on it :cool:



Very true... that's why I put "All Time Greats" in quotation marks, because quantity does not necessarily equal quality. And I only decided to do this after I already read those two other threads complaining about how internet message board posts were deleted - beyond pathetic (the complaining that is). Plus, statistics are fun.

In terms of rating the "quality" of the post, something similar could be done like how we rate the threads. This way, if you want to post "lol I agree" on threads, then your rating would naturally be lowered. Majority rules. Same thing applies to essentially repeating exactly what the poster above you already said when answering somebody's question. Obviously that won't happen though.

As for anybody who lost a large number of posts, just think of it as getting caught up in the "post-count enhancing drug scandal". Your post count now is how the voters perceive you compared to your formerly inflated post counts. :D

[Rongar]

Seemingly so,sir,seemingly so; :p (like do we need 20 threads on Sabermetric argumentation? ;) )

...or on alliteration? (incidentally, I am envious of above)

[HoustonGM]

I've seen some of your posts. Are you certain you still want this?
There's no way to actually do that any way.

[FRENCHREDSOX]

To be fair the major LOSS of posts was the deletion of the "Countdown"/Word Association threads NOT the BMO threads....BUT who cares really ??

I would have preferred a "clean up" like Ohms' did when Beta was around (when he merged 2 similar/identical threads)



THE MAJOR problem for me (& most users I assume) is that there are multiple threads on the EXACT same subject with varying titles- I would prefer them to be INTER LINKED so the user can easily find the right info.

[AndrewOsborn]

Aww man, I got skipped. I'm number 89 posts per day. Oh well, that's okay.

[ohms_law]

There's no way to actually do that any way.

...that sounds like a challenge.
:D


THE MAJOR problem for me (& most users I assume) is that there are multiple threads on the EXACT same subject with varying titles- I would prefer them to be INTER LINKED so the user can easily find the right info.

Me too, but... well for one thing that would be a lot of work. For another, doing that kind of stomps on people's ability to express themselves. Sometimes it's just easier to start a new thread. There's also some ego involved in starting a thread, for some people anyway. Probably most importantly, even though threads may be on the same subject, they often follow their own individual conversational flow. Merging them tends to make the conversation appear choppy and can be really confusing.

[HoustonGM]

To be fair the major LOSS of posts was the deletion of the "Countdown"/Word Association threads NOT the BMO threads....BUT who cares really ??
None of those threads were deleted. They were only temporarily deleted, and have since been restored. The original mess up came when ohms made a post count thread via a bot, and then that thread was copied multiple times, probably overloading the boards.

As Dee said, the only threads being deleted right now are old, dead BMO leagues.

[RickD]

Which goes back to my post when this mess started....Ohms broke the internet.

[gosensgo101]

If I posted in more of these kinds of threads, I'd be up there. :D

[ohms_law]

lol

[FRENCHREDSOX]

None of those threads were deleted. They were only temporarily deleted, and have since been restored.
.

really,SO where are they ?? ;) do a "search" & they NO longer exist (or search is F*****d UP) or YOU are WRONG :)



About two or three weeks ago I went through and deleted all of the pure post padding threads. Then I automated posting a bunch of post padding posts myself, which ended up screwing up the forums and my post count in particular (among others).

[ohms_law]

http://forum.sportsmogul.com/showthread.php?t=116752&highlight=Countdown
http://forum.sportsmogul.com/showthread.php?t=116887&highlight=Countdown
http://forum.sportsmogul.com/showthread.php?t=135979&highlight=Countdown
http://forum.sportsmogul.com/showthread.php?t=135981&highlight=Countdown

etc...

Which threads are you talking about?

[RickD]

Interesting......

[HoustonGM]

really,SO where are they ?? ;) do a "search" & they NO longer exist (or search is F*****d UP) or YOU are WRONG :)
First, whens ohms said what you quoted, he didn't mention that he restored those threads.

Well, hm, actually, I thought he did...but it seems, he didn't...as those threads aren't even showing up in searches as soft-deleted threads..This (http://forum.sportsmogul.com/showthread.php?t=120698) is the only one still up.

Ohms? What happened to the countdown and former Word Association thread in Ejections? I remember closing the WA thread after it was restored, and then the new one started. I must be missing something.

[ohms_law]

humm... so they are. I know that I did restore them, when I was messing around earlier. I haven't touched anything since (I learned my lesson not to mess around too much, and Dee complained that I did that anyway). So, I have no clue what happened. Maybe Dee pruned them.
*shrug*

[RickD]

Man with the right writer and actors this would make an awesome tv show.....:)....for geeks.....:D...;)

[RickD]

Next time on AS THE POSTS TURN:

Ohms secretly takes his revenge by soft deleting threads....

The community erupts over missing threads....who is the culprit....

HGM stirs the pot by asking who cares.....the community erupts some more.

Ohms launches a bot attack bringing BM to its knees.

Dee catches Ohms and he confesses to his crimes.

Ohms tries to repair the damage but....Pandora's Box is open. Who can shut it? Will BM ever be the same? Find out next week on AS THE POST TURNS!

[Reade]

Next time on AS THE POSTS TURN:

Now that **** is funny.

[Arctic Blast]

This show must be made! :)

[RickD]

Now that **** is funny.

Thanks

[RickD]

This show must be made! :)

You finance it I'll make it.....checks or money orders welcome! :p

[Rongar]

Rick, at some point in your soap, you must introduce the evil Twins - the whole darn roster!

Or have the Nationals win the 2008 World Series - then reveal that it was all a dream...

[RickD]

Actually I was thinking of making the internet a dream....

[TheNamelessPoet]

better redo the top 100

[Arctic Blast]

You finance it I'll make it.....checks or money orders welcome! :p

Would you accept attractive rocks?

[RickD]

Sure diamonds, rubies, expensive rocks like that. Great resale potential.

[rockiesfan4ever]

I want in!

[FRENCHREDSOX]

None of those threads were deleted. They were only temporarily deleted, and have since been restored. The original mess up came when ohms made a post count thread via a bot, and then that thread was copied multiple times, probably overloading the boards.

As Dee said, the only threads being deleted right now are old, dead BMO leagues.

First, whens ohms said what you quoted, he didn't mention that he restored those threads.

Well, hm, actually, I thought he did...but it seems, he didn't...as those threads aren't even showing up in searches as soft-deleted threads..This (http://forum.sportsmogul.com/showthread.php?t=120698) is the only one still up.

Ohms? What happened to the countdown and former Word Association thread in Ejections? I remember closing the WA thread after it was restored, and then the new one started. I must be missing something.

So I WAS right the 3 threads WERE deleted & are the MAIN cause of the loss of the posts (because Boomboom/Nuzzy et al all POSTED quite heavily there)


THANKS for not admitting you were wrong HGM,sometimes saying 'I am sorry I was wrong' would help the perception of the community toward you (& other mods) it always an excuse or a redirection of the argument rather than a simple apology - gets quite frustrating for us "simple" posters.:(

[TheNamelessPoet]

THANKS for not admitting you were wrong HGM,sometimes saying 'I am sorry I was wrong' would help the perception of the community toward you (& other mods) it always an excuse or a redirection of the argument rather than a simple apology - gets quite frustrating for us "simple" posters.:(

agreed

[HoustonGM]

So I WAS right the 3 threads WERE deleted & are the MAIN cause of the loss of the posts (because Boomboom/Nuzzy et al all POSTED quite heavily there)
As did I.


THANKS for not admitting you were wrong HGM,sometimes saying 'I am sorry I was wrong' would help the perception of the community toward you (& other mods) it always an excuse or a redirection of the argument rather than a simple apology - gets quite frustrating for us "simple" posters.:(
WTF? Is this serious?

"I thought he did...but it seems, he didn't" isn't an admission that I was wrong? As ohms said, he did restore the threads. I'm not wrong about that. I was unaware that they had since been deleted, as was ohms:


humm... so they are. I know that I did restore them, when I was messing around earlier. I haven't touched anything since (I learned my lesson not to mess around too much, and Dee complained that I did that anyway). So, I have no clue what happened. Maybe Dee pruned them.
*shrug*

Can we stop jumping down my throat over silly things? I was unaware that something happened, so by stating that apparently what I thought wasn't the case, I'm somehow not admitting that I was wrong?

[RickD]

It's getting to where a fellow can't read any threads without the constant bickering, picking , etc. Can't we all just get along?

[TheNamelessPoet]

It's getting to where a fellow can't read any threads without the constant bickering, picking , etc. Can't we all just get along?


agreed

now, lets burn down the new yankee stadium and have a marshmallow roast :p

[Rongar]

It's getting to where a fellow can't read any threads without the constant bickering, picking , etc. Can't we all just get along?

These peaceable Canadians! ...trying to spoil our fun!...let he and him fight!

[RickD]

Well I'm American actually and just living in Canada but yeah it gets old.

[RickD]

Actually quite a nice place to live. Very PEACEFUL and relaxing.

[FRENCHREDSOX]

As did I.


WTF? Is this serious?

"I thought he did...but it seems, he didn't" isn't an admission that I was wrong? As ohms said, he did restore the threads. I'm not wrong about that. I was unaware that they had since been deleted, as was ohms:



Can we stop jumping down my throat over silly things? I was unaware that something happened, so by stating that apparently what I thought wasn't the case, I'm somehow not admitting that I was wrong?

You stated I was WRONG & they existed (#post 46) & only SEMI ADMITTED that they didnt AFTER I repointed out :

1) they didnt show in "search" &
2) they didnt exist anymore

All this the same day (06/02)----------- so the same day they are soft deleted-undeleted & then Re-deleted ---------by the BMPostfaerie....

btw when you write "it seems"--- that is not an admission of error but rather a NON admission of error or a denial of involvement,when it was clearly shown between posts #42 & #52 they DID not exist even when you replied in post #46.

But anyways it is not important & again it was NOT a personal attack upon you but your replies gave out "false"/errored information (although more than likely because you didn't even know yourself) concerning specifically the 3 threads in Ejections especially when else where it was posted:


About two or three weeks ago I went through and deleted all of the pure post padding threads. Then I automated posting a bunch of post padding posts myself, which ended up screwing up the forums and my post count in particular (among others).


Anyhows as I said PP is fun for some & really unimportant considering all the VALUABLE work you & your mod friends actually do on the forum to help BM users.

[HoustonGM]

You stated I was WRONG & they existed (#post 46) & only ADMITTED that they didnt figure WHEN I repointed out :

1) they didnt show in "search" &
2) they didnt exist anymore

All this the same day (06/02)----------- so the same day they are soft deleted-undeleted & then Re-deleted ---------by the BMPostfaerie....
No, that did not happen all in the same day. I didn't check to see if they were there when I made post 46, because I remember them being there, and then later in the day when you pointed out that they weren't, I checked, and they weren't there. They didn't get deleted-undeleted in the same day. They were deleted a while ago by ohms, restored by ohms, and then removed by somebody else at some unknown point, that neither ohms nor I was aware of.


btw when you write "it seems" that is not an admission of error but rather a NON admission of error or a denial of involvement when it was clearly shown between posts #42 & #52 they DID not exist even when you replied in post #46.
I admitted I was wrong after I looked and found that the threads were not there.


But anyways it is not important & again it was NOT a personal attack upon you but your replies gave out "false"/errored information (although more than likely because you didn't even know yourself)
Yes, exactly, as I said. I was unaware that they were no longer there. And I stated that. I admitted I was unaware. I do not know why you're accusing me of not admitting when I'm wrong, as I did.


concerning specifically the 3 threads in Ejections especially when else where it was posted:


About two or three weeks ago I went through and deleted all of the pure post padding threads. Then I automated posting a bunch of post padding posts myself, which ended up screwing up the forums and my post count in particular (among others).
I know that ohms said he deleted them. I also know that ohms restored them, as he said:

humm... so they are. I know that I did restore them
He, LIKE ME, was unaware that they WERE deleted until it was pointed out...

[TheNamelessPoet]

I still say ohms bot didnt prove even because 1 - it didn't have the 30 second restriction most user have and 2 - No one else botted theirs 3 - Most of the PP threads aren't just pure **** like his bot spammed, but games and such and did show activity in that they were consciously made.

are u saying my posts are 4 stars or $hit?

[TheNamelessPoet]

btw im back in the top 20

[TheNamelessPoet]

btw im back in the top 20

so im done with my counting in the restocking much to peoples dismay :p

[ohms_law]

wow... that's it, I'm going to figure out how to turn off the post count display in the postbit tonight and send the php mod to Dee and Ian this weekend. This is friggin' ridiculous.

[HoustonGM]

wow... that's it, I'm going to figure out how to turn off the post count display in the postbit tonight and send the php mod to Dee and Ian this weekend. This is friggin' ridiculous.
Personally, if it's that much of a problem, I'd prefer one or both of the following:

a) A forum for threads like Word Association that posts do not count in.

b) Spam rules. Blatant post-padding results in warnings, X amount of warnings results in a suspension, another X amount of warnings results in a ban.

Clearly, the overwhelming majority of people like having the post count shown, so I think removing it entirely would upset a large portion of the forum population. However, since this post padding is getting pretty ridiculous, there are other options to control it without removing post counts entirely.

[RickD]

Yeah I think it's gotten out of hand. Hence my earlier pandora's box ref. Seems like all these threads turn into post pads now. Makes me miss the steroid threads.

[ohms_law]

a) A forum for threads like Word Association that posts do not count in.
I think this is a great idea regardless, and ejections is perfect for it. I'll look into how to do it, and send that info as well.

b) Spam rules. Blatant post-padding results in warnings, X amount of warnings results in a suspension, another X amount of warnings results in a ban.
Clay and Dee just won't go for it, and I don't particularly like the idea anyway. If there's a place where posts don't count, that's good enough for me.

As for post counts themselves, simply removing the display from the postbit doesn't turn off the counts anyway. The members list will still be there, for one thing. Not displaying the count simply makes post counts (appropriately) less important. I think that it's an elegant solution and Dee seems willing to do it, she just doesn't know php.

[HoustonGM]

I think this is a great idea regardless, and ejections is perfect for it. I'll look into how to do it, and send that info as well.
I'm pretty sure vBulletin has a simple option on the forum options for each subforum whether or not to count posts.

However, I wouldn't say Ejections should be made post-count-free. There are legitimate threads for Ejections that don't belong elsewhere - politics, jokes, etc. A subforum of Ejections for post-pad-esque games would be the ideal solution, I think. We'd just have to move the "offending" threads from ejections into the subforum.

[dabruinss]

you guys have got to be kidding right. grow up. so what some people love the counts and some dont. leave it alone. if youlike it then watch if you dont then go away and leave the rest of us alone to have fun you pansie asses:eek:

[ohms_law]

Let FRS know, he's the one who seems to be making a big deal about it right now.

[dabruinss]

Let FRS know, he's the one who seems to be making a big deal about it right now.
well french is o.k. because he likes the red sox. if he were a yankee fan then i would say hang him.

[HoustonGM]

Really? You and HGM seem to be on the bandwagon of 'lets get rid of showing post counts' which is not neutral. How about we leave **** the way it has been and everyone is ****ing happy. Gawd.
Please show me where I've said that I want to get rid of post counts, thanks.

[Swampdog]

You can tell that it's a slow news day.... the main topic of debate is over who makes the most senseless posts in an online forum... and what on earth should be done about this outrage?

[TheNamelessPoet]

b) Spam rules. Blatant post-padding results in warnings, X amount of warnings results in a suspension, another X amount of warnings results in a ban.
y.

and what of people in leagues?

[TheNamelessPoet]

Personally, if it's that much of a problem, I'd prefer one or both of the following:

a) A forum for threads like Word Association that posts do not count in.

b) Spam rules. Blatant post-padding results in warnings, X amount of warnings results in a suspension, another X amount of warnings results in a ban.

Clearly, the overwhelming majority of people like having the post count shown, so I think removing it entirely would upset a large portion of the forum population. However, since this post padding is getting pretty ridiculous, there are other options to control it without removing post counts entirely.

that BASICLY says get rid of them.

and btw... i said im done... i did it to get my NON post padding posts back so as far as out of control... im sure that refers to me. i have not posted 1000 posts in BMO so it has NOT been all BMO that was deleted. I lost over 1000 posts... now I have them back... w/e

[FRENCHREDSOX]

Let FRS know, he's the one who seems to be making a big deal about it right now.

Really ?


All I said was that it was since Word Association/Name Game & Countdown (& I do not mean the Cascade League version) were "deleted" that most of the posts disappeared,whereas it was inferred that the posts lost were due to the "BMO dead league" deletion....

I also said that I do not really care about post counts personally BUT some forum users did & were surprised to find themselves losing X hundred (or in 1 case 6000 posts *winks to Nuzzy *)

So please don't stick me with the "leader of the revolution" tag,thanks.:)

[HoustonGM]

and what of people in leagues?
:confused:


that BASICLY says get rid of them.
No. It says get rid of completely pointless posts


and btw... i said im done... i did it to get my NON post padding posts back so as far as out of control... im sure that refers to me. i have not posted 1000 posts in BMO so it has NOT been all BMO that was deleted. I lost over 1000 posts... now I have them back... w/e
You're right. Somehow, the original Word Association thread and the countdown threads in Ejections got deleted. That's why I'm 5,000 posts below where I was.

[TheNamelessPoet]

i rarly call out mod's in fact i NEVER have but who the heII cares about the post count if u suposedly dont care... that doesn't make sense but thei is what I mean...

if ohms and houston dont care about post counts then stop bítching about it.
let us that care worry about it if you supposedly don't.

I do find it ironic that now that ther is a post padding problem that houston is all for moving the word asociatitions stuf to antohr forum that doest count.

[HoustonGM]

How is that "ironic"?

[TheNamelessPoet]

How is that "ironic"?

maybe because you are the biggest padder out there. I mean yes you do GREAT work with BM but in my opinion... you suck. sorry if you are offended but I find you. and NO i dont have proof... its an opinion

[HoustonGM]

lol. The only "post pad" threads I post in are Word Association, and that teammate association thread.

I'm not the biggest post-padder out there, sorry. Two threads that are games is all I "pad" in. I don't create threads for the sole purpose of posting, and just post and post and post nothing just to increase my post count.

I'm not seeing what's "ironic" though. The outrageous amount of pointless post-padding threads is ridiculous, but the Word Association thread, and other similar threads, still have a purpose - they're games. So, if anything was done about "post padding", I'd still want those threads to be there, because they're ... games.

[HoustonGM]

Also, I don't really care that these threads exist, but it is bogging down the ejections forum, which DOES have a purpose for threads outside of post-padding threads.

[TheNamelessPoet]

Also, I don't really care that these threads exist, but it is bogging down the ejections forum, which DOES have a purpose for threads outside of post-padding threads.

like wod association and teammate thread right... 1 mans trash is another mans treasure... maybe my thrads are my treasure an dur trash... gues what its mine and if I want it... i am welcome to it

[HoustonGM]

like wod association and teammate thread right.
I was actually referring to other threads, that aren't about sports, or the forums, or baseball/football mogul, such as politics, news stories, jokes, etc.

[TheNamelessPoet]

is that (http://forum.sportsmogul.com/showthread.php?p=1084367#post1084367) better

[HoustonGM]

I don't care at this point. I was just giving my thoughts on what should be done if something was to be done. I don't really give two ****s.

[TheNamelessPoet]

cause as far as i knew we were allowed to post political stuff since EJECTIONS is for non sports stuf... like ANYTHING

"Threads that don't belong anywhere else. (If you post something inappropriate in another forum, we will move it here)."

[HoustonGM]

I just think we're all getting a little too worked up over something as meaningless as post counts.

[TheNamelessPoet]

I don't care at this point. I was just giving my thoughts on what should be done if something was to be done. I don't really give two ****s.

then shut the heII up man... god we are sick of this man... you keep saying you dont care... people that done care shut the heII up and dont say stuf about stuff they dont care about

[HoustonGM]

then shut the heII up man... god we are sick of this man... you keep saying you dont care... people that done care shut the heII up and dont say stuf about stuff they dont care about
Ohms commented about "doing something about it", and I gave my opinion on what I think should be done, if something was to be done.

[TheNamelessPoet]

Ohms commented about "doing something about it", and I gave my opinion on what I think should be done, if something was to be done.

then drop it dude.

all ur doing is stirring the pot and we are f*king tired if it

[HoustonGM]

then drop it dude.

all ur doing is stirring the pot and we are f*king tired if it
I gave my opinion, you responded to them, so I replied to your replies....I don't need to "drop" anything. I reply when people respond to my posts.

[HoustonGM]

And seriously? Bogging down ejections? This site is mad fast.
By "bogging down", I meant cluttering the first page, so that threads with a purpose get pushed down. I didn't mean it in a site maintenence sort of way.

[TheNamelessPoet]

Nothing should be done. I will not stand for the vocal minority leading to another change for the worse.

lol

and HGM
how about doing something about BMO... i spend $15 a month and yet nothing has been done in 2 years... stop bothering clay/dee/ian about trivial bullshít like post counts... how about letting the poeple that care about post counts worry about it if is supposedly means nothing to you.

it was not an issue at all untill OHMS was messing around with the posts... leave it the heII alone. we care for no reason... just like I play BMO for no reason... its fun and some of us care. if u don't F off... we are sick of you antagonizing and being a díck to everyone. look you do alot to help and have done great things as have FRS with rosters but im sick of all the cr@p that comes with it.

[TheNamelessPoet]

By "bogging down", I meant cluttering the first page, so that threads with a purpose get pushed down. I didn't mean it in a site maintenence sort of way.

there are 26 threads shown per page and only 1 is sitickied ur telling me that it clottered... last i checked it still showed as bold no matter how many threads were started

nice try

[TheNamelessPoet]

and HGM
how about doing something about BMO... i spend $15 a month and yet nothing has been done in 2 years... stop bothering clay/dee/ian about trivial bullshít like post counts... how about letting the poeple that care about post counts worry about it if is supposedly means nothing to you.


what im saying before u twist it is that things might get done faster if they were not bothered with petty stuff

[HoustonGM]

stop bothering clay/dee/ian about trivial bullshít like post counts...
I'm not?

And dude, chill. You're getting really close to going over the line. Stop the name-calling and accusations of "antagonizing." I'm getting incredibly sick of that stuff. Every time I make a post, it's somehow "antagonizing." Sorry man, I'm allowed to post my thoughts and opinions just like everybody else. If they disagree with someone else's, that doesn't make it antagonizing.

I'm not repeating this again. Ohms posted that he thinks something should be done about it. As a moderator, I think my opinion should be heard in matters of forum policy, and I posted my opinion on what should be done if and only if something was done. I do not have an opinion on whether or not anything should be done, but I do have an opinion on what should be done if something was to be done.

[HoustonGM]

what im saying before u twist it is that things might get done faster if they were not bothered with petty stuff
I honestly don't think Clay is at all paying attention to post count issues. Dee handles the overwhelming majority of the forum stuff, and she doesn't handle much, if any, of the Mogul stuff.

[HoustonGM]

Besides with tags and search, people can find the thread they need anyway. I don't see HGM worrying when he sends word association or teammate to number 1.
As I said, I'd be in favor of moving such threads to a seperate forum, even if posts counted there, I don't care.

[TheNamelessPoet]

...i Don't Care.
so Drop It!!!

[HoustonGM]

This is unreal.

[HoustonGM]

Ok, I took you off ignore - and wished I hadn't

You were jumping the gun on the issue is all.
Jumping the gun on what issue? Jumping the gun on giving my opinion on something somebody posted? I'm supposed to wait or something?

[TheNamelessPoet]

Like I could see it - and you knew I couldn't.

???

[HoustonGM]

Well - it sort of seems like you're supporting the issue.
Read my post please:

I posted my opinion on what should be done if and only if something was done. I do not have an opinion on whether or not anything should be done, but I do have an opinion on what should be done if something was to be done.

[HoustonGM]

Like I could see it - and you knew I couldn't.
I didn't know at what point you unignored me....You were responding to something I had said, so I figured you'd have...seen what I said.

[TheNamelessPoet]

stop being a jerk dude... u have an opionin if you have a solution. thats liek saying I dont have an opinion about the DH but if they ahd to do something id say add the dh to the NL.

Come on its obvious you opinion if u say that posts in the "games threads" shoudlt count

[HoustonGM]

stop being a jerk dude... u have an opionin if you have a solution. thats liek saying I dont have an opinion about the DH but if they ahd to do something id say add the dh to the NL.
I have an opinion on what should be done if something was to be done. I don't care (ie. don't have an opinion) if anything is done or not.

Come on its obvious you opinion if u say that posts in the "games threads" shoudlt count
You're completely misunderstanding me. Ohms wanted to do something about post counts. I offered my opinion on something to do if something was to be done about post counts. I don't care if the posts are counted or not. I don't think post counts should be hidden, but if something was to be done about "pointless" posting, I think those such threads should still exist, and one solution is to move them to a subforum where posts don't count.

[TheNamelessPoet]

I have an opinion on what should be done if something was to be done. I don't care (ie. don't have an opinion) if anything is done or not.


You're completely misunderstanding me. Ohms wanted to do something about post counts. I offered my opinion on something to do if something was to be done about post counts. I don't care if the posts are counted or not. I don't think post counts should be hidden

sooooo.... u have an opinion... on a subject that you have no opinion about

[HoustonGM]

Oh my god.

Is it that hard to understand?

I don't care if something is done about it. But if something WAS done about it, I'd care how it was done.

[TheNamelessPoet]

Oh my god.

Is it that hard to understand?

I don't care if something is done about it. But if something WAS done about it, I'd care how it was done.

see my DH example above

[HoustonGM]

It's not at all similar.

[TheNamelessPoet]

It's not at all similar.

of course not. because it proves you wrong. it proves you DO have an opinion. therefore its irrelevent right???

[HoustonGM]

of course not. because it proves you wrong. it proves you DO have an opinion
No, it doesn't.

I don't care about post counts. I'm fine with them staying, and with post padding staying, and I'm also fine with post padding being "stopped." If it was to be stopped, I have an opinion on what should be done.

[HoustonGM]

But you do feel it's credible. Which IMHO it isn't. Its a lame idea.
Okay, fine. And I think it's fine, and I think it's fine to leave it the way it is, hence, i have no opinion on it, because I'm fine with it either way.

[HoustonGM]

Ok then so do I - nothing should happen. That's right. No penalties. Just have the bm fairy take care of the threads.
I know. You don't think anything should be done about it. That much was obvious.

[TheNamelessPoet]

I know. You don't think anything should be done about it. That much was obvious.

and yet its obvious, I dont care WHAT you post, that its NOT fine with you. so leave us alone and let us pad cause we are sick of your cr@p

[HoustonGM]

and yet its obvious in dont care WHAT you post that its NOT fine with you. so leave us alone and let us pad cause we are sick of your cr@p
What ****? When have I ever stopped you from padding or anything? **** man.

[TheNamelessPoet]

MAN... what a way to ruin a perfectly good buzz

[TheNamelessPoet]

What ****? When have I ever stopped you from padding or anything? **** man.

all u do is bítch about it then say u dont care. kiss off man. u are antagonizing us padders bt all this.

[HoustonGM]

all u do is bítch about it then say u dont care. kiss off man. u are antagonizing us padders bt all this.
What are you friggen talking about?

I've said that I don't see what the big deal is about post counts, and that I think making threads just to post in is ridiculous precisely because I don't see what the big deal is about post counts, but that doesn't mean that I care whether or not you do it, because I don't, and "All I do is ***** about it" certainly isn't true.

You're getting incredibly worked up over POST COUNTS. Just chill out.

[FRENCHREDSOX]

Just out of interest are the last 3 pages counted as Post padding or as "interjecting debating" ?


PS that was humour....:)

[Swampdog]

You know, when I was very young, my father taught me that when an argument reached a certain point.... that being that there was nothing of substance to be added... that it took the bigger man to just stop, and let the other guy have the last word.

It seems that virtually no one here is willing to just let it go, as if thats somehow an admission of defeat. It takes a sensible, confident individual to let the other guy get the last word in. I truly mean no offense to anyone here, but this thread has become like watching a couple of 5 year olds fight over a cookie.

[HoustonGM]

Then ohms made a bad 'proof' that post counts were irrelevant. Now he's saying they should be removed, and HGM is saying he should have a say in how it goes? Why? Dee has made all the decisions based on what she feels should be done. Why change now?
Dee, obviously, has the final say on anything. Ohms said it should be removed, and I gave my opinion on what should be done, IF Dee decided something should be done.


Shouldn't we the users have a say if post padding is allowed?
Yes.


Just out of interest are the last 3 pages counted as Post padding or as "interjecting debating" ?
I'd go with post padding in disguise.;)

[ohms_law]

You know, when I was very young, my father taught me that when an argument reached a certain point.... that being that there was nothing of substance to be added... that it took the bigger man to just stop, and let the other guy have the last word.

It seems that virtually no one here is willing to just let it go, as if thats somehow an admission of defeat. It takes a sensible, confident individual to let the other guy get the last word in. I truly mean no offense to anyone here, but this thread has become like watching a couple of 5 year olds fight over a cookie.

You've got to admit that it's somewhat entertaining, at least.
:)

[TheNamelessPoet]

he started it :p

[TheNamelessPoet]

ohns is like giambi... he made a mistake... got caught and admited he made a booboo and aplogised as much as can be expected hehehe... and HGM... is either clemens or bonds... i havent decided

[BINGLEBOP]

Are they going to get asterisks?

[TheNamelessPoet]

Are they going to get asterisks?

lol

[BINGLEBOP]

And who will you be played by?

[RickD]

Man this is like a train wreck...the carnage is horrible but you can't turn away. You know you'll regret it later!

How about all the PP threads get merged into one and then people can post in that one thread to their hearts content?

[boomboom]

Funny, I have less post then the first post in this thread (joke) ;)

Seriously, HGM, if it doesn't matter than stop posting that you don't care... :)

As for post counts.. who cares right? :)

[boomboom]

btw: FRS, nice posting in the last month :)

[dabruinss]

HGH do you even play in any of the online leagues. if not then please go back to your little game and leave us alone.

[HoustonGM]

HGH do you even play in any of the online leagues. if not then please go back to your little game and leave us alone.
It's HGM, and no I don't play in online leagues, but what in the world does that have to do with anything? :confused: leave you alone? When have I ever gone into any online leagues forums?

[Arctic Blast]

Sweet merciful ****...never in my life have I felt so mature.

[TheNamelessPoet]

i had a dream I had 5,500... see what all the bickering has done.... :p

[ohms_law]

TNP, let me seriously ask you a question (and anyone else who feels like chiming in, feel free). I'm not mocking or acusing here at all, I'd honestly like to know.

What, to you, is the appeal to increasing your post count? What do you see as being so beneficial to having a higher post count that you're willing to resort to post padding?

[TheNamelessPoet]

TNP, let me seriously ask you a question (and anyone else who feels like chiming in, feel free). I'm not mocking or acusing here at all, I'd honestly like to know.

What, to you, is the appeal to increasing your post count? What do you see as being so beneficial to having a higher post count that you're willing to resort to post padding?

honestly... i really have no idea. i NEVER padded until this whole thing were we started losing posts. then it just was to get my posts back and turned into a big thing. When im on a message board i GENERALY feel if I get an answer from someone with 10,000 post and 100 posts that i most likely will be talking to someone who knows more with the 10,000.

Thats not to say the 100 post counter doesnt know anything in fact he could be right and the 10,000 person could be TOTALY wrong like in the BM questions thread when someoen had an answered and HGM (NOT HGH dabruins :p) gave an incorrect answer (not poking fun its just an example it happes *shrug*). I have been here for what seams like forever (I can't remember pre-BM days actualy) and it SEEMS the more posts you have the more you know... so when posts start dissapearing of if they are removed COMPLETELY how are new people to tell who REALLY knows there stuff? Not to say guys with smaller counts don't know or inept but I dont think its a good idea. i LOVE the idea of BMO aodn BM having different forums tho. Because as noted before... IN BMO it shows you are active.

[TheNamelessPoet]

Why does there need to be a logical, tangible reason? How about because we like them? Why does it bother you so much people like post counts is the question I woud like answered. Why did it bug you so much you just had to ask why people what's benefical to them? I mean dude, drop it already. We already know your stance and the shining fact of the matter is - we don't need a reason. Nope, not a single one. I

I also find this bordering on repetition because I believe boomboom has answered this before. Seriously - people like post count counts; they dont hurt anyone - doesn't that tell you that the best course of action is to drop it and leave it alone? There are many other pressing relevant issues on this forum, so why not worry about something important instread of trying to basically be a jerk to people because for some reason, you cant figure out that post counts make them happy and that should be enough reason.

FFS


i dont know if that was ment but it sounded like an attack on ohms... he is just trying to MODERATE i think... at least that how i took it :p

[TheNamelessPoet]

I just asked some questions and made some suggestions.

just checking :p

[FRENCHREDSOX]

btw: FRS, nice posting in the last month :)

thanks but like you I lost posts over the last month too Bobby....;) BUT who cares ?


I am more interested in where is BM & BMO going (both the game & the forums) ?

*shudders at the thought*

[boomboom]

BUT who cares ?

exactly :)



I am more interested in where is BM & BMO going (both the game & the forums) ?

*shudders at the thought*

I don't know why Sports Mogul is going through a rough time,(besides the reccession) BM2k9 is the best game to date from SM. I would have loved to see more support for BMO, like an upgrade. Hopefully that will come soon, but it is only Dee and Clay right now. So BMO will not be worked on. They don't even like BMO (I swear):rolleyes:. But BMO isn't a money cash cow as with BM2k9. Enlight is doing a bad job getting this game into stores this year...so WDIK?)

Dee told me to drop post counts, so I will, (she wasn't very nice about it). I guess they really do need to reduce the on board memory or something. If it means an Upgrade to BMO, then I am all for it but the problem is, there isn't going to be an upgrade to BMO, without Ian.

[TheNamelessPoet]

exactly :)



I don't know why Sports Mogul is going through a rough time,(besides the reccession) BM2k9 is the best game to date from SM. I would have loved to see more support for BMO, like an upgrade. Hopefully that will come soon, but it is only Dee and Clay right now. So BMO will not be worked on. They don't even like BMO (I swear):rolleyes:. But BMO isn't a money cash cow as with BM2k9. Enlight is doing a bad job getting this game into stores this year...so WDIK?)

Dee told me to drop post counts, so I will, (she wasn't very nice about it). I guess they really do need to reduce the on board memory or something. If it means an Upgrade to BMO, then I am all for it but the problem is, there isn't going to be an upgrade to BMO, without Ian.


where is ian ? because if there is not going to be an update they can count my $15 out

[RickD]

Wheres Ian?

[RickD]

Sports Mogul is going through a rough time?

[boomboom]

He is still there, but his work isn't being implemented. They don't have the money right now to support a beta. Hopefully thou it will come soon.

[TheNamelessPoet]

He is still there, but his work isn't being implemented. They don't have the money right now to support a beta. Hopefully thou it will come soon.

i have a great idea to increase revenue... BMO!!!
guarenteed $5 EVERY TIME SOMEONE signs up

[boomboom]

True. But when it cost $6 bucks just to get $5. that is called a bad investiment. Hopefully thou, Clay will have the resources to spill more money into BMO. Right now things are not as strong as they have been in the past.

Sports Mogul works in cycle, with 2k7 and 2k8 everything was great, with 2k4- everything sucked (publisher didn't pay them) ... 2k5-2k6- got a little beter....

2k9, well it looks the publisher isn't all the ball this year, last year it was in stores by Opening day.

I am closing this thread because Dee told me to drop everything about post counts. So who cares right?