Disrespectfull Yankees Fans

[RedsoxRockies]

Are being so terrible to Papelbon, are booing him and saying overrated, chanting Mariano Rivera. They were being abnoxious towards his pregnant wife in the parade, and have been just awful. And Dioner Navarro just made an error...

[Arctic Blast]

I don't care about the booing...whatever, I hardly think he cares, either, since he's probably used to it. However, when fans start slagging on family members...that's taking things WAY too far. Those are people who, quite frankly, need a beating.

[RedsoxRockies]

A spanking more like it.. though who would want to hit the rumpus of a Yankees fan I do not know...

[metsguy234]

When I told my friend about this through AIM, he started spamming me with dirty links and "new york yankees: greatest professional franchise in the history of professional sports" messages.

And the Yankees say they have class...

[RedsoxRockies]

lol

[KowboyKoop]

Yankee fans acting like idiots and low-life scum? NO WAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[P1NSTR1PEZ]

anything to hate on the Yankees...

agreed what happened at the Parade was beyond wrong, but the chants were just.

He was completely out of line with his comments so he deserved all of that

[Reade]

with his comments so he deserved all of that

Agreed, if you don't want the attention don't make stupid comments to a reporter, now his wife and kid didn't deserve to be threaten(if thats what really happened).

As I've said before, shut up and play the game and then there's no problems.

[filihok]

He didn't even say anything.

Damned elitist Yankee fans are the problem.

[Reade]

He didn't even say anything.

No, its just like he didn't make anymore comments to the Rays after everyone else said it was over. Papelbon might be a great pitcher(someday) but his mouth runs more than the Mississippi River

[filihok]

What kind of closer doesn't want to close a game?

If he said, "naw...let the other guy do it", that would be pretty weak.

[Alloutwar]

Yah - I think a little bit of natural closer mentality was taken way out of context by an eager-to-villify NY media market (not that that's a new thing)

On it's own, just over-sensationalizing and a lack of taste, but coupled with the fan reaction - it's almost inflammatory, and incredibly stupid.

[filihok]

But it makes for a good story.

The SH*THEADS threatening his wife. They are the real problem. Talk **** to the players. Talk **** to the fans. I love going to away games when there's 30'000 of them and 1 of me and everyone's letting it fly. But it is absolutely classless to to bring a guy's wife and baby into it.

[StreetMedic]

He was completely out of line with his comments so he deserved all of that

He said Rivera was the greatest closer in history!

What's the problem?

That Papelbon said he wanted to pitch the ninth inning?

A closer who wants to close a game! Imagine that!

And since the game didn't end for another hundred innings after both Rivera and Papelbon pitched, the issue couldn't be less important.

Just a dust-up about a whole lot of nothing.

[KidCavalier23]

Yeah, but there is a difference between Yankee fans though. You have those ignorant ones that always defend themselves with "Well, we have 26 championships," when its been eight years without one. Those are probably the same jerks that did this to Papelbon and his family.

I do hate the Red Sox, but theres a difference between the true Yankees fans and the ignorant ones. We hate Boston, but we respect them. Unlike those other idiots that claim to be Yankee fans.

[boomboom]

I do hate the Red Sox, but theres a difference between the true Yankees fans and the ignorant ones. We hate Boston, but we respect them. Unlike those other idiots that claim to be Yankee fans.

Agree.

[StreetMedic]

I do hate the Red Sox, but theres a difference between the true Yankees fans and the ignorant ones. We hate Boston, but we respect them. Unlike those other idiots that claim to be Yankee fans.

Maybe you can clarify something for me, KC...

Folks who "hate Boston" :eek:

Are those the "true Yankee fans", or "the ignorant ones"?

:D :p

[Frijolito]

Wow Yankee fans booing a Red Sox player!!:eek: Say it ain't so!

[KidCavalier23]

Maybe you can clarify something for me, KC...

Folks who "hate Boston" :eek:

Are those the "true Yankee fans", or "the ignorant ones"?

:D :p

It's all Yankee fans, but some of us do respect the Red Sox organization. The ignorant ones treat them like trash; a prime example of this is yesterday's threats to Paps' family.

[etothep]

He said Rivera was the greatest closer in history!

What's the problem?

That Papelbon said he wanted to pitch the ninth inning?

A closer who wants to close a game! Imagine that!

And since the game didn't end for another hundred innings after both Rivera and Papelbon pitched, the issue couldn't be less important.

Just a dust-up about a whole lot of nothing.


I don't care for either team (go brew crew), but I have a sneaky suspicion that if the all-star game was being player in Fenway Park, during its final season, & Rivera said that he should be the AL's closer instead of Papelbon, that he wouldn't be getting the benefit of the doubt here & that you guys would be saying "Sure, that's just him being a closer"


Guess I'm a little tired of the team who has had the 2nd highest payroll in the majors 6 of the last 8 years (the other years they had the 4th & 6th highest), continuing to try to play the "woe is me" card.

[Frijolito]

Guess I'm a little tired of the team who has had the 2nd highest payroll in the majors 6 of the last 8 years (the other years they had the 4th & 6th highest), continuing to try to play the "woe is me" card.


Exactly. I always get a kick out of Boston & NY fans. I don't understand how anyone who isn't from Bos or NY can be a fan of them. Boston fans are even worse because they're always whining. They think they're a small market team:eek: Always crying about the evil empire of the yankees. Look in the mirror.....

[Alloutwar]

Hey - you back a team that spent 86 years as an underdog...witness a few historic one-game playoffs and meltdowns to the Mets, and you might have that chip on your shoulder, too.

Yes, Boston had a #2 payoll, and continues to sign some huge players to compete with...drumroll...the $200mil Yankees, who are in the same division. That's what finishing second for about a decade (or eight) will tend to do. (Even then, we manage to stay under the luxury tax threshold, and still trailed the yankees by ~$70mil per year. That's the equivalent of 6 Marlins rosters, if you're interested in more math.) Luckily, it takes more than just bucks to make a great team. And we've dropped down to 4th in payroll, behind the Mets and Tigers now. Hopefully we'll drop further.

I don't like the idea of our long-underdog team becoming a veritable dynasty...and honestly, I don't like big name, huge-money players (Manny and Drew, but especially poorly performing ones like Lugo). Honestly, it's like some kind of culture shock...great, but strange. But to just lump us in with the Yankees based on 8 years of payroll (which was always significantly less than the Yankees, even if 2nd in MLB) without considering the history that got us here is rather ignorant and uninformed.

[Pavelb1]

I don't care for either team (go brew crew), but I have a sneaky suspicion that if the all-star game was being player in Fenway Park, during its final season, & Rivera said that he should be the AL's closer instead of Papelbon, that he wouldn't be getting the benefit of the doubt here & that you guys would be saying "Sure, that's just him being a closer"


Guess I'm a little tired of the team who has had the 2nd highest payroll in the majors 6 of the last 8 years (the other years they had the 4th & 6th highest), continuing to try to play the "woe is me" card.

What in the Wide World of Sports does that have to do with what we're talking about?

[Frijolito]

Hey - you back a team that spent 86 years as an underdog...witness a few historic one-game playoffs and meltdowns to the Mets, and you might have that chip on your shoulder, too.



This is what I was talking about. " Underdog for 86 years":eek: Give me a break WAAAAHHHHH!! Maybe Boston fans have an inferiority complex. If Boston was an underdog for 86 years I guess you can say every team in the history of baseball has been an underdog because the all powerful Yankees are too strong.:rolleyes: Anyone who is calling the Red Sox a "longtime underdog team" should think twice about calling somebody else's comments "ignorant and uniformed".

[etothep]

What in the Wide World of Sports does that have to do with what we're talking about?

The first part of my statement had to do with turning papelbon's scenario around on him.

The second part is something I just felt like saying & felt tied into this thread about the I hate the Yanks/Yanks are faultless thread.

Didn't know I needed Pavelb1's permission to post info in this thread. I'll be sure to message you before my next post to make sure it makes the cut, buddy :rolleyes:

[Alloutwar]

This is what I was talking about. " Underdog for 86 years":eek: Give me a break WAAAAHHHHH!! Maybe Boston fans have an inferiority complex. If Boston was an underdog for 86 years I guess you can say every team in the history of baseball has been an underdog because the all powerful Yankees are too strong.:rolleyes: Anyone who is calling the Red Sox a "longtime underdog team" should think twice about calling somebody else's comments "ignorant and uniformed".

How about, a team that has never won is an underdog. Say, the Rays this year were an underdog. The Reds and Pirates are underdogs, for being in the cellar for the last 10-20 years. The Rangers and Twins, both rebuilding. These classify as underdogs in the sense of today's game.

Another interpretation is in a team that has not won in a long time - a storied franchise like the Cubs. Any team that hasn't won it all in so long, there's an idea of a 'curse' hanging over it. If you'd like, I can replace 'Underdog' with 'team that has not won, despite great players and great seasons, causing much anguish and heartache to its extremely loyal fanbase, over an awe-inspiring 86 years'. Maybe that will clear it up for you.

I'm very satisfied with 2 world series wins, and a team that can best the Yankees on most days; I don't think we're underdogs anymore, nor do I think the Yankees are all-powerful. Please don't put words in my mouth; I commented on their factual payroll numbers, and nothing else.

Finally, since only 5 teams are in the AL East, the Yankees position as top payroll contender only seriously impacts those 4 teams in the same division, with lower payroll. It's not tremendously different from other divisions; I'm sure the Dodgers outspend their NL West rivals, and the Tigers outspend their AL Central counterparts. It is the amount by which they overspend their division rivals, coupled with the long-running post-season success that puts them in a different category. Surely, that is fairly easy to agree on?

[etothep]

How about, a team that has never won is an underdog. Say, the Rays this year were an underdog. The Reds and Pirates are underdogs, for being in the cellar for the last 10-20 years. The Rangers and Twins, both rebuilding. These classify as underdogs in the sense of today's game.

Another interpretation is in a team that has not won in a long time - a storied franchise like the Cubs. Any team that hasn't won it all in so long, there's an idea of a 'curse' hanging over it. If you'd like, I can replace 'Underdog' with 'team that has not won, despite great players and great seasons, causing much anguish and heartache to its extremely loyal fanbase, over an awe-inspiring 86 years'. Maybe that will clear it up for you.

I'm very satisfied with 2 world series wins, and a team that can best the Yankees on most days; I don't think we're underdogs anymore, nor do I think the Yankees are all-powerful. Please don't put words in my mouth; I commented on their factual payroll numbers, and nothing else.

I think having a team of "lovable losers" and being an underdog aren't quite the same. Losing in the playoffs isn't equal to losing 5 days/week for 5 months in my mind, but maybe that's just cause my team hasn't made the playoffs since I was born, so I don't take making the playoffs for granted as a given right.

[Pavelb1]

The first part of my statement had to do with turning papelbon's scenario around on him.

The second part is something I just felt like saying & felt tied into this thread about the I hate the Yanks/Yanks are faultless thread.

Didn't know I needed Pavelb1's permission to post info in this thread. I'll be sure to message you before my next post to make sure it makes the cut, buddy :rolleyes:

"felt like saying"

So you admit that neither teams payroll has anything to do booing the AL manager, booing Drew after he hit a HR and heckling a pregnant woman?

[Frijolito]

How about, a team that has never won is an underdog. Say, the Rays this year were an underdog. The Reds and Pirates are underdogs, for being in the cellar for the last 10-20 years. The Rangers and Twins, both rebuilding. These classify as underdogs in the sense of today's game.

Another interpretation is in a team that has not won in a long time - a storied franchise like the Cubs. Any team that hasn't won it all in so long, there's an idea of a 'curse' hanging over it. If you'd like, I can replace 'Underdog' with 'team that has not won, despite great players and great seasons, causing much anguish and heartache to its extremely loyal fanbase, over an awe-inspiring 86 years'. Maybe that will clear it up for you.

I'm very satisfied with 2 world series wins, and a team that can best the Yankees on most days; I don't think we're underdogs anymore, nor do I think the Yankees are all-powerful. Please don't put words in my mouth; I commented on their factual payroll numbers, and nothing else.

Try rooting for a team that went 15 years without even a winning season. A team that I have never even seen play in a playoff game. Then talk to me about being an underdog. A team that constantly spends huge money on big name players and then chokes is not an underdog. Oh poor Red Sox fans, Buckner blew a routine play. WWAAAAHHHHH. Oh their's some kind of course. WWWAAAAAHHHHH! Thanks for proving my point about Red Sox fans being cry babies:rolleyes:

[Alloutwar]

I think having a team of "lovable losers" and being an underdog aren't quite the same. Losing in the playoffs isn't equal to losing 5 days/week for 5 months in my mind, but maybe that's just cause my team hasn't made the playoffs since I was born, so I don't take making the playoffs for granted as a given right.

I understand that. And for my part, at least, I don't take our post-season trips for granted. One reason I feel very lucky to have been a Sox fan, during the Pedro years in '99, and even the playoffs in '03. Many other teams haven't been to the playoffs in decades, so I certainly am not out to claim we're some poor wreck or something. We do great. We get outspent. But we still win.

Now, with the Rays hot on our heels, we're getting the dose of the same - our $134mil payroll is being beaten (swept, twice) by a young, talented, lower payroll team. Money doesn't decide success, which is great for equality in the sport.

[etothep]

"felt like saying"

So you admit that neither teams payroll has anything to do booing the AL manager, booing Drew after he hit a HR and heckling a pregnant woman?

I didn't bring up anything about booing his wife b/c I assumed it goes without saying that heckling her is out of line, whether or not shes pregnant.

As for the payroll, yes I feel its relevant b/c I don't think all this "woe is me", **** the yankees talk from BoSox fans is as warranted as they think it is, b/c if it wasn't for the Yanks, they would be the ones called "the evil empire"

I have no issue with them hating their rival yankees, but not when they're busy trying to constantly portray themselves as victims. Booing Drew after he hit a HR, who cares? You're right, I'm sure a Jeter Hr in an all-star game at Fenway would have received a curtain call :rolleyes:

[etothep]

I understand that. And for my part, at least, I don't take our post-season trips for granted. One reason I feel very lucky to have been a Sox fan, during the Pedro years in '99, and even the playoffs in '03. Many other teams haven't been to the playoffs in decades, so I certainly am not out to claim we're some poor wreck or something. We do great. We get outspent. But we still win.

Now, with the Rays hot on our heels, we're getting the dose of the same - our $134mil payroll is being beaten (swept, twice) by a young, talented, lower payroll team. Money doesn't decide success, which is great for equality in the sport.

I guess its hard for me to have much pity for the BoSox, when the NL version, those ****, dirty cubs, are my least favorite team & yet they can't even make it to a world series, much less win one :p

[Alloutwar]

Try rooting for a team that went 15 years without even a winning season. A team that I have never even seen play in a playoff game. Then talk to me about being an underdog. A team that constantly spends huge money on big name players and then chokes is not an underdog. Oh poor Red Sox fans, Buckner blew a routine play. WWAAAAHHHHH. Oh their's some kind of course. WWWAAAAAHHHHH! Thanks for proving my point about Red Sox fans being cry babies:rolleyes:

Yes, we're all remarkably baby-ish, crying incessantly. I was just telling my Sox-buddies that two world series isn't enough, I feel so inferior in the face of those Yankees waving their 26 around.

Is this what you want? You're living a fallacy. I'm sorry that your team has not performed well, and that you feel some deep-seated lack of recognition for your troubles. But to resort to name-calling and childish put-downs doesn't really help your case. I'm sorry that you feel the way that you do, and I hope you realize you are wrong at some point. That's all.

[Frijolito]

Yes, we're all remarkably baby-ish, crying incessantly. I was just telling my Sox-buddies that two world series isn't enough, I feel so inferior in the face of those Yankees waving their 26 around.

Is this what you want? You're living a fallacy. I'm sorry that your team has not performed well, and that you feel some deep-seated lack of recognition for your troubles. But to resort to name-calling and childish put-downs doesn't really help your case. I'm sorry that you feel the way that you do, and I hope you realize you are wrong at some point. That's all.

You started it by calling me ignorant and uniformed. Big surprise you dish it but you can't take it.:rolleyes: You're right the Red Sox are the biggest underdog in the history of sports. You're living a fallacy. I don't have to make a case you've made it for me. Thats all.:cool:

[Pavelb1]

I didn't bring up anything about booing his wife b/c I assumed it goes without saying that heckling her is out of line, whether or not shes pregnant.

As for the payroll, yes I feel its relevant b/c I don't think all this "woe is me", **** the yankees talk from BoSox fans is as warranted as they think it is, b/c if it wasn't for the Yanks, they would be the ones called "the evil empire"


nooooo...their payroll wouldn't be nearly as high as it is/was if the Yankees didn't exist. And history has shown the Sox arn't willing to overpay like the Yankees did.

[StreetMedic]

It's all Yankee fans, but some of us do respect the Red Sox organization. The ignorant ones treat them like trash; a prime example of this is yesterday's threats to Paps' family.

Fair enough.

BTW, did anyone happen to catch this, or was it more of "local" story?

http://tinyurl.com/6hnkjt

Despicable. What the **** is wrong with people? :(

[Alloutwar]

You started it by calling me ignorant and uniformed.

Wrong, your post came into a Sox-Yankees thread specifically insulting Sox fans;


I don't understand how anyone who isn't from Bos or NY can be a fan of them. Boston fans are even worse because they're always whining. They think they're a small market team:eek: Always crying about the evil empire of the yankees. Look in the mirror.....

We were discussing Yankees fans booing Sox players, manager, heckling them while on the mound, and hurling threats of phsyical harm at a pregnant wife during a celebratory parade. Then you come in, and say 'Sox fans are even worse'. I've talked about payroll numbers, division setups, and how the Boston outlook makes sense, from a fan perspective. I've tried to help you see an alternate view, and be less insulting. I'm not interested in fighting here, but you should try to keep your comments a little more tame if you don't want to be called out for making them.

[StreetMedic]

Oh poor Red Sox fans, Buckner blew a routine play. WWAAAAHHHHH. Oh their's some kind of course. WWWAAAAAHHHHH! Thanks for proving my point about Red Sox fans being cry babies:rolleyes:

Ugh.

Stop.

This whole line of argument is just dumb.

I mean, honestly, who the **** whines about baseball? No one.

If there *is*, in fact, any whining going on here, believe me, it's not coming from the Sox or Yankee fans.

[Frijolito]

Wrong, your post came into a Sox-Yankees thread specifically insulting Sox fans;



We were discussing Yankees fans booing Sox players, manager, heckling them while on the mound, and hurling threats of phsyical harm at a pregnant wife during a celebratory parade. Then you come in, and say 'Sox fans are even worse'. I've talked about payroll numbers, division setups, and how the Boston outlook makes sense, from a fan perspective. I've tried to help you see an alternate view, and be less insulting. I'm not interested in fighting here, but you should try to keep your comments a little more tame if you don't want to be called out for making them.

I am keeping my comments tame. If I told you what I really thought I would probably get banned. Anyone who thinks the Red Sox are an underdog is delusional. I'm sorry your offended by my opinion. Just because your a Red Sox fan doesn't mean you should feel inferior to everything and everyone.

[Frijolito]

Ugh.

Stop.

This whole line of argument is just dumb.

I mean, honestly, who the **** whines about baseball? No one.

If there *is*, in fact, any whining going on here, believe me, it's not coming from the Sox or Yankee fans.

Alloutwar.

[HoustonGM]

I hate fans.

:) :p

[RedsoxRockies]

HOUSTON THAT IS VERy MEAN YOU HURT MY FEELINGS. NO MORE FRIED CHICKEN FOR YOU!!!!

[Pavelb1]

I didn't bring up anything about booing his wife b/c I assumed it goes without saying that heckling her is out of line, whether or not shes pregnant.

As for the payroll, yes I feel its relevant b/c I don't think all this "woe is me", **** the yankees talk from BoSox fans is as warranted as they think it is, b/c if it wasn't for the Yanks, they would be the ones called "the evil empire"

I have no issue with them hating their rival yankees, but not when they're busy trying to constantly portray themselves as victims. Booing Drew after he hit a HR, who cares? You're right, I'm sure a Jeter Hr in an all-star game at Fenway would have received a curtain call :rolleyes:

No, but Fenway gave Joe Torre a standing ovation after he recieved prostate cancer treatment in 1999. NY fans would heckle Mother Teresa and just today proclaimed with pride that they make 12 year old kids wearing the wrong gear cry.

[etothep]

No, but Fenway gave Joe Torre a standing ovation after he recieved prostate cancer treatment in 1999. NY fans would heckle Mother Teresa and just today proclaimed with pride that they make 12 year old kids wearing the wrong gear cry.

You're comparing Drew's all-star HR to Torre's cancer situation?

[Pavelb1]

You're comparing Drew's all-star HR to Torre's cancer situation?

I'm comparing a fan base of which one heckles pregnant women and proudly proclaims they've made 12 year olds cry. All the while the rival manager is bending over backwards to cater to their needs. It nearly cost him the game and potential home advantage in the WS.

[robinhoodnik]

Exactly. I always get a kick out of Boston & NY fans. I don't understand how anyone who isn't from Bos or NY can be a fan of them. Boston fans are even worse because they're always whining. They think they're a small market team:eek: Always crying about the evil empire of the yankees. Look in the mirror.....

Easy for you to say, your team ran away and joined the mighty NL Central.:rolleyes:

[robinhoodnik]

A team that I have never even seen play in a playoff game.

I did. :D

[robinhoodnik]

Fair enough.

BTW, did anyone happen to catch this, or was it more of "local" story?

http://tinyurl.com/6hnkjt

Despicable. What the **** is wrong with people? :(

I know about it. Next town over. Todays report stated that the a**hole may not have even been involved in the verbal exchange or even known about it. Just jumped in with a bat and started swinging. Now the douchebag's a resident of my town (county jail:)), I'm sure I'll see him cleaning up the highway for the next two years. We have inmate labor.

[StreetMedic]

It nearly cost him the game and potential home advantage in the WS.

What do Yankee fans care? Their team won't be there, either way.

/nudge-nudge ;)

[StreetMedic]

Todays report stated that the a**hole may not have even been involved in the verbal exchange or even known about it. Just jumped in with a bat and started swinging.

Yeah, I think I probably read the same article (Boston.com, methinks).

Amazing.

I mean, if that's what qualifies as a *defense* argument these days, we're all in big trouble.

:eek::eek::mad::confused:
:eek::mad::eek::eek:

(six jurors and two alternates)

[dickay]

OK...i admit I got kind of tired of reading the same whiney **** over and over and over, so I just skipped to the end and decided to post my thoughts on the actual topic this thread was created on.

Regardless of the Yankee / Red Sox my team is better than yours crapola, a few Yankee fans threatened a pregnant family member of a player....and by default a large number of yankee fans pretty much condoned/supported the action by acting like fools defending the action and booing about nothing really. Papelbon did complement Rivera and said Rivera should close. No question about that.

Let me repeat the important part, "a few yankee fans threatened a pregnant family member of a player". Absolutely appaling for anyone to do something like that, and ANYONE in here defending the Yankee fans for it are...well i'm actually going to refrain here because this whole thing boils me up and I want to say something I'll regret.

I don't see an issue with Papelbon getting booed in NY, but after such an incident you can't boo him. Roles reversed, Rivera would be cheered in Fenway....i have no doubt on that. Sure, it'll make Yankee fans feel better to say thats not true, but thats BS....it most certainly is.

In all seriousness, I kind of lose respect for alot of Yankee fans in here turning this thread into something it isn't and in way defending these actions. As a father, I think Papelbon showed great composure.....I know I couldn't have been so strong.

[Frijolito]

I did. :D

Way to rub it in.:mad: I was 2 years old in '82. I apoligize though because I lumped all Red Sox fans in the same "whiney" category. That probably wasn't necassary. But I know a couple of Red Sox fans personally, and they do whine alot. ( They all have lived in the Milwaukee area thier whole lives:eek: witch made it harder to understand) But either way I was wrong to assume that all Red Sox fans are like this. Alloutwar had some valid points. But I have never considered the Red Sox underdogs. Anyway Go BREWERS. And if we go on to the playoffs remember it was after the Red Sox swept us that our run started.

[cartman00000001]

I remember Harvey's Wallbangers in 82!! Loved them.

you were 2 in 82? I was in little league!!