Post Counts are Disabled

[Clay Dreslough]

These forums have their share of really nasty fights -- the ones where I learn lots of new swear words, and people actually threaten each other (including, sometimes, communication that extends beyond this site).

We very much frown on these fights. These forums are here to help each other with the Mogul games, to talk sports, or to just be social with other sports fans. They aren't here for pissing matches or threats.

You would think these fights might be about something important, like whether or not Major League Baseball should institude Instant Replay.

Alas, many of these fights are about post counts. So, we have just disabled post counts.

[ohms_law]

Thank you!

hallelujah!

[TheNamelessPoet]

boo hiss... I dont feel i had a part in it since i always posted in the apropreate threads but if I dit sorry.


I now would like a moment od silence for the post counts :(

[metsguy234]

Aw, just when I reached 2000 :mad:

[metsguy234]

I think I'll be taking a break from the site until post counts are added back, it's just not the same.

[RickD]

Thank You Clay!

[metsguy234]

What's the point of posting, though, if there's no post counts? :(

[filihok]

Do post counts start fights? Or do people start fights?

Sheesh. Next they will want to take away my guns or tell me I can't drink or smoke or inject or chew or poke.

[TheNamelessPoet]

What's the point of posting, though, if there's no post counts? :(

actualy having conversations was the point all along lol.. we all got carried away myself included in post padding thats all


Do post counts start fights? Or do people start fights?

Sheesh. Next they will want to take away my guns or tell me I can't drink or smoke or inject or chew or poke.

poke???

[metsguy234]

actualy having conversations was the point all along lol.. we all got carried away myself included in post padding thats all


But I just joined conversations randomly because I wanted my post count to get to 2000, and then it was all taken away from me :(


You can still see post counts in the Members List, though.

[filihok]

poke???

Yes. Some drugs are "poked" into various bodily openings. Well...actually only one bodily opening that I know of

[RickD]

But I just joined conversations randomly because I wanted my post count to get to 2000, and then it was all taken away from me :(

You can still see post counts in the Members List, though.

THat's part of the problem, people joining conversations randomly and not contributing but trying to drive up their post count. If silly random posting had been kept to appropriate threads we'd probably not be where we are now....

If it continues I see the post counts in Members List dissapearing as well.

[metsguy234]

If the post counts in Members List disappear then I'm disappearing with them.

[RickD]

if the post counts in members list disappear then i'm disappearing with them.

:D:rolleyes:

[TheNamelessPoet]

If the post counts in Members List disappear then I'm disappearing with them.

I hate to say if but if your goal was JUST to raise your post count we dont want you here. Yes I am a padder myself but just posing worthless posts in a convorsation is like a 5 year old screamming mommy every 3 seconds while she is on the phone just so he can say hi and then run away.

Its unnesisary and annoying. and REALLY annoys most people here. Im not saying i want you gone, I like the perspective of as many people as possible on as may toppocs as possible but wasting space in ACTUAL conversations is worthless

[TheNamelessPoet]

I cant believe im saying this, being a padder myself but remove them from the member list as well. there is no point in removing from 1 place and not the other. people will just look in there instead. *shrug* always has to be a few rotten apples in the barrel :(

[metsguy234]

When are the post counts coming back?

[RickD]

I cant believe im saying this, being a padder myself but remove them from the member list as well. there is no point in removing from 1 place and not the other. people will just look in there instead. *shrug* always has to be a few rotten apples in the barrel :(

I agree!

[metsguy234]

Well you can also see them in the user profiles.

[filihok]

I think that the people who are getting in these fights should be disciplined, while those of us who can responsibly use post counts (or completely ignore them-in my case) should be FREE to do so.

[metsguy234]

Well I have a temporary solution in my signature...

[RickD]

If it continues to be abused I see crackdowns coming in member listings, stats on profiles etc.

[TheNamelessPoet]

I think that the people who are getting in these fights should be disciplined, while those of us who can responsibly use post counts (or completely ignore them-in my case) should be FREE to do so.

I agree. HOWEVER, :( id rather NOT have to hear complaining about them. like the people HARDCORE complaining about them and looking for every possible way to find them and acting childish about them will ruin it if we ahve them at all.

I like padding I think its fun and was looking forward in 5 years to passing houston lol but i really DONT care. It's fun but I can find other ways to amuse myself

http://animatedtv.about.com/library/graphics/sp514ButtersVeryOwnEpisode.jpg

[TheNamelessPoet]

Well I have a temporary solution in my signature...
*sigh*


If it continues to be abused I see crackdowns coming in member listings, stats on profiles etc.

unfortunatly agreed

[rockiesfan4ever]

I agree with Nameless Poet, if you came here just to get a high post count then this isn't the right place for you.

[Red Sox Fan 734]

Well I have a temporary solution in my signature...



Thats just sad....

[HoustonGM]

Post counts aren't COMPLETELY disabled, everyone. They're just not attached to posts anymore.

And thank God.

[RedsoxRockies]

I agree with Nameless Poet, if you came here just to get a high post count then this isn't the right place for you.

I agree. I am a post padder, I admmit, but I come here o talk about stuff. Baseball, the game, anything. And while I felt proud to know I have contributed over 3,000 posts here, I don't really care if the post counts are gone. It will make conversations more fun, and stop threads like tehehe

[RickD]

Threads like tehehe are fine in their place...if it was kept ther...the problem was when it was spilling over into other threads....

[RedsoxRockies]

Why was Metsguy banned? Because of this? Or something else?

[RickD]

Don't know and Ohms and the other Mods have said before it isn't our business. I am content to leave it at that.

[TheNamelessPoet]

Threads like tehehe are fine in their place...if it was kept ther...the problem was when it was spilling over into other threads....

and THAT was the problem. it keeps just pushing off to other threads.

People complained about guys like HoustonGM in the past also but what they dont relize is that guys like him have their padding all in a few threads... I have NEVER seen him post in a conversation thread even 1 time a "padding thread". the places tyou can post are like tehehehe and the quest for 5000 or whatever it was calld, those kinds of threads.

Its when stiff starts spilling into conversations... or u see 1 guys post about 5 in a row for no real reason



Don't know and Ohms and the other Mods have said before it isn't our business. I am content to leave it at that.

agreed

[RedsoxRockies]

ok, sure, lets leave it at that. I actually thought he was turning around... now I know he was in it for the posts....

[boomboom]

I am the biggest padder of them all, I am glad this is gone. Now we can really focus on the community, and the growth of Sports Mogul. We are all fans of the game and we are also the best way to communicate to the world how great this game is. We are basically free advertisers for Sports Mogul. I know that with young age comes immaturity. I was like that too. I have leveled off about post counts and what really matters is that I can escape my real life and come on here and read about interesting subjects, interesting post, and not have to read about garabage. I mean the thing about post counts, it is like "who has the biggest dick type of thing", it is stupid. Really as what wassit says in his signature is "be more concerned with your character than your reputation Your repuatation is merely what people think you are, while character is what you are" or something like that. :)

I know that this will improve the forums and I don't what to hear about some troll complaining about post counts. I was like that before and I apologize to Clay and Dee and especially my fellow posters on here for being like that.

There is really nothing to add to this...

[gosensgo101]

But I was about to get to 1000!

Anyways, I don't care. Hopefully this makes the post padders stop.

And if it doesn't we can just quietly laugh at them even more than we did before.

[Arctic Blast]

I agree with the majority, here. I had no problem at all with padding happening in padding threads, but it had just gone overboard recently, with a lot of other conversations being hijacked and such.

[TheNamelessPoet]

I am the biggest padder of them all, I am glad this is gone. Now we can really focus on the community, and the growth of Sports Mogul. We are all fans of the game and we are also the best way to communicate to the world how great this game is. We are basically free advertisers for Sports Mogul. I know that with young age comes immaturity. I was like that too. I have leveled off about post counts and what really matters is that I can escape my real life and come on here and read about interesting subjects, interesting post, and not have to read about garabage. I mean the thing about post counts, it is like "who has the biggest dick type of thing", it is stupid. Really as what wassit says in his signature is "be more concerned with your character than your reputation Your repuatation is merely what people think you are, while character is what you are" or something like that. :)

I know that this will improve the forums and I don't what to hear about some troll complaining about post counts. I was like that before and I apologize to Clay and Dee and especially my fellow posters on here for being like that.

There is really nothing to add to this...

*snicker* her said the "d" word lol :eek:

I dont accept the appology however :mad:
ok never mind I do :p;)

ok at least my urge to pad whil im at work is going away lol... now maybe I wont get fired :p

[boomboom]

ok at least my urge to pad whil im at work is going away lol... now maybe I wont get fired :p

lol

[Arctic Blast]

Yep, that post padding being gone is a big shame. And, lemme tell ya, it would go over HUGE over on that forum! :rolleyes:

[BINGLEBOP]

Just another reason to switch to OOTP.

OK, goodbye.

This is the best news on the forums in a long time. The only thing that could exceed this would be a post saying that there will be user controlled expansion drafts, 40 man rosters, and flexible roster management in the new version! :)

[Arctic Blast]

OK, goodbye.

This is the best news on the forums in a long time. The only thing that could exceed this would be a post saying that there will be user controlled expansion drafts, 40 man rosters, and flexible roster management in the new version! :)

(just to get to the inevitable)

There WILL? Holy CRAPSORZ, that's AWWWWSUM! I cant WATE!

:D

[BINGLEBOP]

(just to get to the inevitable)

There WILL? Holy CRAPSORZ, that's AWWWWSUM! I cant WATE!

:D

WHAT?!? There will be?!? NO WAY!!!!!1111111

[Arctic Blast]

WHAT?!? There will be?!? NO WAY!!!!!1111111

Yes WAY!!!1111!!!11 I TOTLY heArD it dfrom this GY who KNOOS stuf!

[HoustonGM]

I have leveled off about post counts and what really matters is that I can escape my real life and come on here and read about interesting subjects, interesting post, and not have to read about garabage
I totally read that as "gar-a-bosh" :p

[boomboom]

lol :)

[Red Sox Fan 734]

OK, goodbye.

This is the best news on the forums in a long time. The only thing that could exceed this would be a post saying that there will be user controlled expansion drafts, 40 man rosters, and flexible roster management in the new version! :)
lol

:p:p:p:p:p:p:p

[metsguy234]

Why was Metsguy banned? Because of this? Or something else?
Apparently for a "24-hour cooling off period".

More like, "get Mike off of the forums for a day"...

[RickD]

Apparently for a "24-hour cooling off period".

More like, "get Mike off of the forums for a day"...

One sounds constructive...the cooling off period, one sounds so negative...I'd look at it constructively.

[BINGLEBOP]

It gives you an opportunity to turn your life around while you are still young enough.

[metsguy234]

It gives you an opportunity to turn your life around while you are still young enough.

Mike grew up on the hard post padding suburban streets of Staten Island, and that left him only one life choice- be a post dealer.


:D

[BINGLEBOP]

His biggest client was Redsoxrockies, who would use his lunch money that Redsoxfather and Rockiesmother gave him to buy posts that he would eventually overdose and almost lose his life on.

[metsguy234]

His biggest client was Redsoxrockies, who would use his lunch money that Redsoxfather and Rockiesmother gave him to buy posts that he would eventually overdose and almost lose his life on.

One day the Internet Police found upwards of 100,000 posts in Metsguy234's computer and upwards of 750,000 posts in RedSoxRockies' computer.Both were taken to Internet Jail.

[BINGLEBOP]

They also ended up being charged with distributing internet steroids after authorities found multiple examples of edited "super players" on both of their teams. Names listed in the Dreslough Report include Nick Punto (rated a 99 in Redsoxrockies sim), John Maine (who went 450-3 in his career on a metsguy fronted team), and the 2013 Rockies, after Redsoxrockies cloned Matt Holliday and had him playing every position on the diamond.

[OregonDuck1989]

and the 2013 Rockies, after Redsoxrockies cloned Matt Holliday and had him playing every position on the diamond.

Honestly, I don't know why O'Dowd and the Monforts try this one lol

along with Tulo.

[metsguy234]

They also ended up being charged with distributing internet steroids after authorities found multiple examples of edited "super players" on both of their teams. Names listed in the Dreslough Report include Nick Punto (rated a 99 in Redsoxrockies sim), John Maine (who went 450-3 in his career on a metsguy fronted team), and the 2013 Rockies, after Redsoxrockies cloned Matt Holliday and had him playing every position on the diamond.

I did that with Javier Valentin once when the game got all buggy and accidentally traded 15 Javier Valentins to me.

It was not as good as Holliday would've been tho :D

[Red Sox Fan 734]

lol

[BINGLEBOP]

When asked for his expert analysis on the matter, Red Sox Fan 734 broke into a fit of nonstop laughter.

[RedsoxRockies]

Senator Mitchell soon filed a report showing that Joe Morgan was in fact a computer generated image voiced by a man only known as BingleBop. The report also revealed president Bush and Bob Barr were ruled by this man.

[metsguy234]

Senator Mitchell soon filed a report showing that Joe Morgan was in fact a computer generated image voiced by a man only known as BingleBop. The report also revealed president Bush and Bob Barr were ruled by this man.

Well you got Bob Barr right, but I think you'd be surprised who's controlling Mr. Bush :p

[RedsoxRockies]

But then Metsguy admit to Bush use, and had to be tested for Bush once a week

[douglasthedj]

Anyone know what happen to the post counts in within the threads?

[filihok]

They were disabled because some people were abusing them.

Some people were very happy to see them go.

[RickD]

Anyone know what happen to the post counts in within the threads?

Clay talks about this here:

Post Counts (http://forum.sportsmogul.com/showthread.php?t=185180)

[RickD]

Some mods, who are against this rationale of thinking when it comes to drug use and other bigger issues, were very happy to see them go.

:rolleyes: Was that really neccessary? Totally off topic and not what he asked. If you have a gripe against the mods why not PM them instead of bringing it into the open forums?

[RickD]

Clay disabled then due to fighting, lots of people, not just mods, were happy to see them go. Myself included.

[RickD]

OK never mind

[metsguy234]

So when are they returning? It's been awfully dull here without them...

[Frijolito]

Post counts aren't gone. You can see them anytime you want.

[TheNamelessPoet]

I was sad to see them go, being a padder myself...

HOWEVER what was happening was the padding was being brought into intelegent conversations (of which i have neve rin my life had one and i am talking ibout IRL not here :p) and becoming a distraction... for those that are OBSESSED and have even less of a life than me... they can be seen on your profile page... but sadly it has died down around here... tho it makes normal conversation about stuff interesting... except in political threads... :p that was the only thing interesting in them

[michaelg123789]

YOu can still see them if you go into the members list I think.

[RickD]

I'm actually glad to see a calmer forum. Debatges still happen but not to the degree that they once did which is ok.

[HoustonGM]

Filihok, those are the type of comments that are unnecessary and purely confrontational. It was not at all related to the post count issue.

I don't care if you care about post counts. I care when somebody who only cares about raising his post count disrupts the normal flow of conversations by posting off-topic gibberish for no reason than to up his post count. As others have said, post counts aren't gone. They just aren't attached to each and every post.

[ohms_law]

Agreed, and agreed.

[RickD]

HGM and Ohms are in on this thread....we're in good hands here now I'll move along! :D;):p

[metsguy234]

So when will post counts be returning to threads?

[RickD]

So when will post counts be returning to threads?

:rolleyes:

Hopefully Never!

[EVEN11323]

:rolleyes:

Hopefully Never!

Agreed.

[BINGLEBOP]

Go ahead and lock this thread. Nothing new here. Nothing to see children. Move on and get lives.

[DarthJaker]

Metsguy when will you learn:confused:

[RickD]

Ah...the definition of insanity would apply here.

[metsguy234]

Can Clay or one of the mods chime in here? It's becoming tedious to follow post counts.

[BINGLEBOP]

No.

[Red Sox Fan 734]

MetsGuy do you only care about post counts?

[boomboom]

Post Counts in the threads will not be returning. Period.

Thread Closed.

[ohms_law]

I was looking for this thread just now, and I figured it would be in the Problems With The Board forum, but it was in Ejections. So, I've moved it to Problems with the Boards.

[boomboom]

why did you bump this thread up :) ...last thing we need is metsguy padding ;)

[ohms_law]

Cause others have been looking for it... and I moved it, like I said.
*shrug*

[metsguy234]

If we're really good will the post counts come back?

[RedsoxRockies]

Mets Guy, do you want Maine song or post counts?

[metsguy234]

Mets Guy, do you want Maine song or post counts?

Maine song! Maine song! :D

[HoustonGM]

Post counts aren't gone, metsguy. What is with your obsession of having them attached to posts?

[meinknotyou]

Post counts aren't gone, metsguy. What is with your obsession of having them attached to posts?

says the only guy to not only dethrone bobby on padding but utterly destroy him in the process.

[HoustonGM]

says the only guy to not only dethrone bobby on padding but utterly destroy him in the process.
What are you saying?

[boomboom]

says the only guy to not only dethrone bobby on padding but utterly destroy him in the process.
lol, More like I am not as active as I used to. I used to spend so much time on here, not just padding but I used to read every post in this forum, BMO and BM, FM and BMO....

Now i only read Talk Sports and some ejections..and any post I replied in :)

[braves15]

why the thanks?

Aren't we all adults? Hopefully the post count comes back up soon

[HoustonGM]

why the thanks?
Because it cuts down on off-topic nonsense post padding.


Aren't we all adults?
No, only some of us are.


Hopefully the post count comes back up soon
I'm really curious...why does it matter if it's on posts or not? It's not like the forum has stopped counting posts.

[RickD]

It has seemed a lot more sane since they stopped being on every post and to me it's not hard to click and find out how many posts you have. I think it's psychological for some. If they can't see it are they being counted?

[Arctic Blast]

I'm also part of the "Why does anyone care?" brigade...makes no sense to me.

[metsguy234]

I care because it creates a quick way to track your success in the forums.

[ohms_law]

I care because it creates a quick way to track your success in the forums.

whaaa? :eek:
What "success"? :confused:

[RedsoxRockies]

Houston and Ohms post a lot and they are not successful! Post counts don't Indicate success!!!

[HoustonGM]

That's certainly a baffling reason. "Success"?

[RickD]

I did not know that Post padding equaled success....wow....here I thought there were different measures for that in life!

Hey let's vote MetsGuy the most successful and stop the griping about post counts....

[RedsoxRockies]

RickD I am shocked! You are putting MetsGuy over religion and the Lord!?!

[RickD]

RickD I am shocked! You are putting MetsGuy over religion and the Lord!?!

:confused:

What? How did you get that?

Anywho....

[RedsoxRockies]

:confused:

What? How did you get that?

Anywho....

Well, you wanted to vote him most successful, so he would be more successful than everyother being

[metsguy234]

Well, you wanted to vote him most successful, so he would be more successful than everyother being

I'm more successful then anyone ever has been, is, or ever will be...


:D

[RedsoxRockies]

I'm more successful then anyone ever has been, is, or ever will be...


:D

Not more than Alice in Chains or Metallica :p

[metsguy234]

Not more than Alice in Chains or Metallica :p

I wouldn't hire them to wipe my toilet :p

[Arctic Blast]

I wouldn't hire them to wipe my toilet :p

Well, neither would anyone else. They'd cost far too much money for that to make any economic sense.

[RickD]

well, neither would anyone else. They'd cost far too much money for that to make any economic sense.

lol

[filihok]

I wouldn't hire them to wipe my toilet :p

Oddly enough, I just got back from the bathroom at work and never underestimate the value of an oft-wiped toilet. From the ingrained stains to the fresh drops of urine to the single curly black hair on the rim of the bowl, i would gladly let a washed up band clean that up for me.

[boa]

That's certainly a baffling reason. "Success"?

Success can be different for everyone.

[StreetMedic]

I care because it creates a quick way to track your success in the forums.



whaaa? :eek:
What "success"? :confused:


Really.

Makes me think of "post counts" as a traditional baseball stat: maybe what we need in the forums is a more "sabermetric" approach that could somehow isolate the signal-to-noise ratio in a member's posts, and give that a value.

(Not saying I'd be a front-runner, by any means ;) ).

ERA? Equivalent Relevance Average?

OBP? Off-topic Bullsh-t Posting?

Ks Pitched? Killfiles you've been Pitched into?

Dunno. Just spit-balling here... :D

[HoustonGM]

Really.

Makes me think of "post counts" as a traditional baseball stat: maybe what we need in the forums is a more "sabermetric" approach that could somehow isolate the signal-to-noise ratio in a member's posts, and give that a value.

(Not saying I'd be a front-runner, by any means ;) ).

ERA? Equivalent Relevance Average?

OBP? Off-topic Bullsh-t Posting?

Ks Pitched? Killfiles you've been Pitched into?

Dunno. Just spit-balling here... :D
You win the thread.

lol

[boa]

I take less issue with MetsGuy234 wanting post counts displayed, than I do with people relentlessly attack him for what he likes.

[TheNamelessPoet]

You win the thread.

lol

definatly

[HoustonGM]

I take less issue with MetsGuy234 wanting post counts displayed, than I do with people relentlessly attack him for what he likes.
"What he likes" is to be able to post anywhere, in any thread, on anything off topic, just to up his post count. His actions played a big part leading up to the removal of post counts.

[boa]

I was only speaking to the fact he wants them reinstated and nothing more.

[HoustonGM]

We're just wondering why, because, they're not gone.

[boa]

Gone from easily being seen. Shrug. I get his POV.

[StreetMedic]

Gone from easily being seen. Shrug. I get his POV.

POV? Posts of Value?

Good one!

:p

[HoustonGM]

Gone from easily being seen. Shrug. I get his POV.
They're still easily seen.

[Arctic Blast]

Really.

Makes me think of "post counts" as a traditional baseball stat: maybe what we need in the forums is a more "sabermetric" approach that could somehow isolate the signal-to-noise ratio in a member's posts, and give that a value.

(Not saying I'd be a front-runner, by any means ;) ).

ERA? Equivalent Relevance Average?

OBP? Off-topic Bullsh-t Posting?

Ks Pitched? Killfiles you've been Pitched into?

Dunno. Just spit-balling here... :D

Lol. Your winning of this thread is seconded. :D

[ohms_law]

You know... that kind of thing could be done...

[HoustonGM]

You know... that kind of thing could be done...
Posting statistics based on quality? :confused:

[boomboom]

Reputation?

[ohms_law]

Either, or both, actually. It'd take Dee or Clay installing an add on, but it could be done.

[HoustonGM]

How would such a thing work?

[ohms_law]

Well, there are a couple of ways. I've seen YouTube style up/down ratings for individual posts and/or extensions of the existing (and terrible, IMO) Reputation system. Some add ons even will "roll up" or otherwise hide posts with enough down ratings to qualify as a "bad" post.

I don't know if Dee or Clay would go for it, though. Dee doesn't know PHP at all, and the forums are already extended with the stuff for BMO... As she's said in the past, anything that goes beyond "mashing a button" is probably asking for a bit much.

[BINGLEBOP]

I wish something would be done like that, but it's probably too much work for too little return. What is the purpose of the "reputation" we can give on posts now?

[ohms_law]

The current (default) reputation system is a way to leave private comments/ratings for specific posts to the member who posted it. You can only give so many a day, and the points from receiving them add up, negative and positive. If you get anouth reputation points, the green dot thing underneath "Location" in your postbit can grown (or turn red, and grow).

It's a descent enough idea, but the anonymity and personal focus of the system leads to abuse. That, and the comments quite often don't stay anonymous. Even when they do remain anonymous, I've seen the use of the reputation system turn into nothing but flame wars. In my opinion, that system leads to nothing but a distracting problem...

[HoustonGM]

The current (default) reputation system is a way to leave private comments/ratings for specific posts to the member who posted it. You can only give so many a day, and the points from receiving them add up, negative and positive. If you get anouth reputation points, the green dot thing underneath "Location" in your postbit can grown (or turn red, and grow).
Heh, yeah, I can never tell the difference between the bars beneath posts though, even though people do have different reputation levels.

It's a useless system, in my opinion.

[ohms_law]

Well, if people started using it then you'd see multiple dots, either green or red, based on their points...
*shrug*

[braves15]

Because it cuts down on off-topic nonsense post padding.


No, only some of us are.


I'm really curious...why does it matter if it's on posts or not? It's not like the forum has stopped counting posts.

1--Who cares

2--That's true :)

3--Because, I like seeing my total number. Why NOT have it? Cuz of an argument? So we continue pushing a long a non-conflict run away from any fight sort of sensibility? Come on now. It's the internet, if any argument on any of these posts actually affects you in your real life then you have a serious confidence/self-esteem issue.

[BINGLEBOP]

Don't blame him. It was the abuse of others that caused post counts to be removed (being displayed on posts). You can still see your total number. That's been said multiple times already. It's just not attached to your posts, and it's not going to be anytime soon, so you'll need a few more clicks to see your precious total number. :)

[HoustonGM]

Exactly. You CAN see your total number. And it's not because of an argument that they were removed. It's because people were derailing threads and posting off-topic nonsense in the main forums of the site, for the sole purpose of raising their post count. And you say, "Who cares?" Well, for one, anybody who wants to be able to read threads on topics without wading through nonsense that has nothing to do with the topic at hand. For two, like it or not, the forum leaves an impression on new Mogul players, prospective Mogul players, and prospective members of the community. When threads that deal with the game are derailed by nonsense, that doesn't leave a good impression.

[braves15]

Cubs

Hahaha...JK. I guess it just never bothered me.

[HoustonGM]

You may not have seen some of the nonsense that immediately preceded the removal of the post count from posts.

Most of it's deleted now, though.

[RedsoxRockies]

I always thought that the green dot mean't people are logged in or not.....

[ohms_law]

The one over here does:
18546
This is the one I'm talking about:
18547

[TheNamelessPoet]

the problem ist th padding at all... its the padidng in actual conversation threads. When you are trying to have in intelegent conversation (which i dont understand since im not intelegent :p) it is REALLY annoying to have someone come in and post about nothing of intentionaly make 3 posts instead of 1.

[RickD]

Yeah it got really bad there in the end and has greatly improved IMO since the post totals were removed from the actual posts.

[RedsoxRockies]

The one over here does:
18546
This is the one I'm talking about:
18547

ok, thanks for the clear-up

[boa]

I would like to see them returned at some point.

[oriole^]

I dunno, I've seen reputation work pretty well before, so it could be a good idea. I don't use it now, though.

[ohms_law]

It depends quite a bit on the community. Generally, we have a cooperative open community here, so that's a plus, but then there are also the problems such as post padding, which doesn't make me confident...

Really, I just don't see the need for it. I've seen that system abused and "gamed" more than I've seen it be of any use, even when it's used "correctly".

[StreetMedic]

Really, I just don't see the need for it.

Thank you, Ohms.

I mean, honestly, who cares?

That would be like if I called you on the phone and the caller ID not only reported my name/phone-number, but also told you how many calls I've made that month.

Dial dial dial!

Wheeeeee...!

I'm a more successful phoner than you!

/claps hands excitedly/

:D:D:D

[RedsoxRockies]

Its Bob Uecker, not Eucker!!!

[RickD]

thank you, ohms.

I mean, honestly, who cares?

That would be like if i called you on the phone and the caller id not only reported my name/phone-number, but also told you how many calls i've made that month.

Dial dial dial!

Wheeeeee...!

I'm a more successful phoner than you!

/claps hands excitedly/

:d:d:d

rofl

[Arctic Blast]

I honestly didn't have any idea what that green mark even meant until now. Who knew?

[RedsoxRockies]

I honestly didn't have any idea what that green mark even meant until now. Who knew?

How were we supposed to know Lol

[HoustonGM]

How were we supposed to know Lol
Hovering over it gives you a little sentence about the person's reputation. Although most just say "So-and-so is on a distinguished road."

[RedsoxRockies]

for you it says HoustonGm will be famous soon enough... How many posts does it expect you to have to be famous LOL

[HoustonGM]

It's not posts that decide it. It's the reputation you receive.

[HoustonGM]

So, what about those "User's Post Count" threads? :rolleyes:

[metsguy234]

So, what about those "User's Post Count" threads? :rolleyes:

They are a useful protest against an unfair policy.

[HoustonGM]

They are a useful protest against an unfair policy.
:rolleyes:

They exhibit the point that we've made in this thread - post counts aren't gone.

Really, what's the big deal?

[StreetMedic]

They are a useful protest against an unfair policy.

Aww, isn't that cute...

[rockiesfan4ever]

We need to clear this up because I am tired of having to scroll through all those crap threads about So-And-So's post count just to find the thread I want to read.

Personally, I would've handed out bans by now (Just for like a week).

[StreetMedic]

Its Bob Uecker, not Eucker!!!

Hey, you're right, RSR!

I distinctly remember verifying the spelling before creating that sig, had realized I had the spelling wrong, and *still* somehow managed to type it the wrong way.

I can't believe it's been wrong all this time.

/slaps forehead/

Knucklehead.

:o

Thx, BTW.

Now let's see if the correction "sticks" immediately...

[RickD]

We need to clear this up because I am tired of having to scroll through all those crap threads about So-And-So's post count just to find the thread I want to read.

Personally, I would've handed out bans by now (Just for like a week).

The threads have vanished from the ejections forum so maybe it's done.

[metsguy234]

Since my thread was deleted, I now have a temporary solution back in my signature

[RickD]

:rolleyes:

MetsGuy what makes you think anyone cares what your post count is?

Anywho it is way better than the threads.

[HoustonGM]

Thankfully, the threads are gone.

[boa]

Yeah, I'll have to repost, since I'll assume they were accidentally deleted.

[HoustonGM]

Yeah, I'll have to repost, since I'll assume they were accidentally deleted.
Yeah, all 4 or 5 of them were just accidentally deleted.

Here's a hint: They weren't, and they'll be deleted again.


Stop acting childish. I'd expect it from the young teens on the forums, but you? Grow up.

[boa]

The policy is to notify people via pm when a thread is inappropriate and I received none such PM, so it was a fair assumption. I guess now I know.


:rolleyes:

MetsGuy what makes you think anyone cares what your post count is?

Anywho it is way better than the threads.

I sort of care.

[HoustonGM]

You care because it's a way to be confrontational.

[boa]

Nope. I just sort of care.

[HoustonGM]

Why do you care what his post count is?

[boa]

I don't know. I just do.

[HoustonGM]

:rolleyes:

[TheNamelessPoet]

You care because it's a way to be confrontational.

lol :p

[boa]

Yeah, apparently it's not only okay but endorsed to slander me.

[RickD]

Can we have them removed from the member list as well and then people will post because they care not because of post counts?

[boa]

Liking post counts being easily and visible and posting on things because you care about the topic aren't mutually exclusive. Your argument lacks logic to back itself up.

[HoustonGM]

Liking post counts being easily and visible and posting on things because you care about the topic aren't mutually exclusive. Your argument lacks logic to back itself up.
The recent actions of members of this forum who claim to care about post counts indicate that, while not necessarily being mutually exclusive, "liking" post counts correlates highly with posting off-topic nonsense in an effort to increase one's post count.

Finding out someone's post count is still very easy. They just aren't attached to posts anymore. Big deal.

[boa]

Finding out someone's post count is still very easy. They just aren't attached to posts anymore. Big deal.

Did I even mention it being a 'big deal'? I was responding to one specific post that mattered to me. I didn't post to request your opinion on whether post counts are or aren't 'easy' to find or how 'big of a deal' it is or isn't that they are no longer attached to posts.

I was responding to removing them altogether. My opinion is this would be akin to taking away someone's blanket because you don't think it's all that cold.

[RickD]

Boa my response is because of the insanity of the "post count whining."

Clay removed them from posts because people were derailing threads. It got out of hand.

I don;t see why people just won;t let it go and move on.

[boa]

Except you weren't promoting, 'lets move forward' - you were promoting a more radical idea that honestly isn't required right now. I agree we should move on, but if people want to use 'Ejections' for updated post counts, I don't see any harm in it. People seem to be screaming, 'FOREST FIRE' over a campfire.

[RickD]

You are right I was not promoting moving on....because we had 4 post update threads, this thread and even in word association they mentioned it.....I am just thinking enough is enough.

[boa]

Ahh, yeah censorship is a great thing. Let's censor any mention of post counts. NOT.

That it 'was out of hand' is censorship because you don't support the freedom of expression. It was only 'out of hand' because you don't care about post counts and want to force your views on everyone else. It's pretty obvious.

There's several threads I hate to see get bumped, but I don't endorse them being deleted, I just ignore them and try to locate a thread that interests me. And, oh goodness, sometimes that thread is no longer on page one! Oh no. And I have to see threads I don't like before I see the one I like. It's fascist, pure and simple.

[HoustonGM]

That it 'was out of hand' is censorship because you don't support the freedom of expression. It was only 'out of hand' because you don't care about post counts and want to force your views on everyone else. It's pretty obvious.
No, it was out of hand because it was derailing discussions and serving as an unnecessary nuisance.

[boa]

Isn't that where moderation should come into play, instead of doing the easy thing that punishes everyone?

[HoustonGM]

Isn't that where moderation should come into play, instead of doing the easy thing that punishes everyone?
When it becomes as tedious as it was to continually delete posts that are made for the sole purpose of increasing post count, it's time to get rid of the root of the problem. And viola, post counts were removed from posts, and every forum outside of Ejections has been cleaned up significantly.

Remind me again how not seeing post counts on posts "punishes everyone", or is even a "punishment"? :rolleyes:

[boa]

When I take away something my child likes to change his behavior I am pretty much 'punishing' him. Deprivation of liked things is definitely punishment.

[HoustonGM]

If you feel you are seriously being "punished" because a number on a website no longer shows up on every post, I think you need to take a long, serious look at yourself.

[RickD]

When I take away something my child likes to change his behavior I am pretty much 'punishing' him. Deprivation of liked things is definitely punishment.

A child and internet post counts are 2 different things!

[boa]

Heh, obviously its not literal. I meant to list parallels that explain how it did indeed punish people who for whatever reason liked easily visible post counts.

[RickD]

They are still easily visible. It takes 1 click to find them! One! How hard is that?

[boa]

Again, not the point.

[RickD]

What is the point? People are whining because they aren't on posts but they are only 1 click away!

[boa]

All I said was I missed them being visible, which is true. HGM tried to slander me, which is apparently okay here, then you brought up the radical idea that we should destroy post counts altogether. No one, except for maybe MetsGuy234, is whining, and if he is, he isn't recently. Stop the accusations, please. Please.

[RickD]

They are visible! 1 Click!

[boa]

One click to make them visible. Meaning: they aren't by default. What if we made it so people needed one click to view your signature? After all, some signatures were the 'main problem of the boards' a little while ago.

[RickD]

I'd be ok with that as well!

[Arctic Blast]

Liking post counts being easily and visible and posting on things because you care about the topic aren't mutually exclusive. Your argument lacks logic to back itself up.

This entire THREAD lacks logic!

[ghettostar]

I hate to say if but if your goal was JUST to raise your post count we dont want you here. Yes I am a padder myself but just posing worthless posts in a convorsation is like a 5 year old screamming mommy every 3 seconds while she is on the phone just so he can say hi and then run away.

Its unnesisary and annoying. and REALLY annoys most people here. Im not saying i want you gone, I like the perspective of as many people as possible on as may toppocs as possible but wasting space in ACTUAL conversations is worthless


I hate to be a spell checking whore but my god this is ridiculous...

[StreetMedic]

I somehow backed into this discussion with my brother-in-law today. He's pretty active on some Apolyton (or something-or-other) Civilization forum.

He had a couple of interesting points about the way this sort of numbers-obsessed "post padding" and "thread spamming" is handled over there.

Let me try to paraphrase:

Any sort of off-topic shenanigans in on-topic threads (if it's repetitive or clearly intended to be disruptive) is subject to possible, albeit brief, suspension.

The off-topic stuff goes in the dedicated, off-topic section of the board (like our "Ejections") but with the following rub: any posts in those threads are assumed (naturally) to be off-topic, and, as such, do not add to the writer's overall post-count (or do so at a reduced rate).

Also, any member who appears to be "shotgun posting" to run up his post total may have his count rolled back by one of the forum moderators in what he called a (I think) "PRA". This is a post reduction adjustment, or something. I've probably got their exact terminology wrong, but the intent is obvious enough: Just allow moderators to unilaterally whack the post total by a chunk, if they think a member's "misbehaving".

Not sure yet what I think of those ideas, but I figured they'd be worth batting around (thank you, thank you, I'm here all week... :D ) in the Baseball Mogul forums for a bit.

[TheNamelessPoet]

I hate to be a spell checking whore but my god this is ridiculous...

its ok. I have a mental dissorder sort of like dislexia, it has to do with ADD or something liek that Some kind of memory thing, i guess it why I cant remember anything *shrug*. I dont have rites to install anything on work computesr so I cant DL a spellchecker :(. I spell everything phoneticly except stuff I KNOW is not phonetic... lol Like Phonetic... should be fonetik but I know its not... stuff liek that... I'm used to it :)

Oh and I type to fast for my own good. that doesnt help.

[RickD]

Also, any member who appears to be "shotgun posting" to run up his post total may have his count rolled back by one of the forum moderators in what he called a (I think) "PRA". This is a post reduction adjustment, or something. I've probably got their exact terminology wrong, but the intent is obvious enough: Just allow moderators to unilaterally whack the post total by a chunk, if they think a member's "misbehaving".



Hey shotgun posters get one warning and then their post count get's reset to 0! Guarantee that would work!

[TheNamelessPoet]

Hey shotgun posters get one warning and then their post count get's reset to 0! Guarantee that would work!

at this point... lol I wouldnt care hehehe

[RickD]

Well except then there would be MASSIVE uproar, people would stop coming here, burn their computers and riot in the street!

[rockiesfan4ever]

I have to admit, that would be freaking AWESOME to watch.

[RickD]

CNN Breaking News:

Riots in the street today as Sports Mogul mods reset certain individuals post counts to 0. People could be heard screaming, "Not Me, Not Me! Why Ohms Why?"

One fan of post padding was seen to be scrawling anti-HGM graffiti on the walls of Microsoft!

[MeetDaMets]

One fan of post padding was seen to be scrawling anti-HGM graffiti on the walls of Microsoft!


seinfeld ?????

[HoustonGM]

I somehow backed into this discussion with my brother-in-law today. He's pretty active on some Apolyton (or something-or-other) Civilization forum.

etc.
A lot of those rules are similar on other forums I go on, like MTGSalvation, a site for the Magic: The Gathering card game. But, the caveat is is that, for example, MTGSalvation, is HUGE compared to this site, so there's a lot more members and topics to keep in order. On a small community like this, I don't think SUCH strict rules are necessary.

[ohms_law]

Yea, many forums (if not most forums) are way more strict then we ever have been, or likely ever will be, here. Personally, I don't see the need for anything else to change. Not having the counts show on posts is a good compromise, since it obviously seems to be working to reduce the psychological "chase" mentality of going after post counts. As has been pointed out, the counts are still there, you simply have to look specifically for them. It hasn't cut out the nonsense completely, but I think that it's been cut down to the point that it doesn't impact meaningful participation anymore. That was the point all along, to prevent "post padding" from being an interference, and that goal seems to have been accomplished.

[HoustonGM]

Well said.

[boomboom]

I personally like the post counts not showing. I don't think many rules are needed. We can pretty much manage the forum via PM.

[Reade]

Ohms hit it on the nose for me anyway, I don't have hours a day to read a 100 bs post to get to 5 post that have any meaning to them.

[RickD]

Ditto!

[Arctic Blast]

Indeed!

[boa]

Ohms hit it on the nose for me anyway, I don't have hours a day to read a 100 bs post to get to 5 post that have any meaning to them.

Giggle, I still have to anyway.

[metsguy234]

I want my post count back! :(

[Arctic Blast]

I want my post count back! :(

And no one else wants you to have it back.

[boomboom]

dude, you are getting annoying.

[HoustonGM]

I want my post count back! :(
You can't get something back that you never lost.

[Arctic Blast]

I want my post count back! :(

Okay, let's try this...here's a challenge for you, mets. Give us a reason. Not some crap about your 'not knowing if you're winning', give us a real, legitimate reason for why you feel you need them returned. And, for that matter, HOW their loss has actually affected your enjoyment of the forums here.

[Rongar]

Okay, let's try this...here's a challenge for you, mets. Give us a reason. Not some crap about your 'not knowing if you're winning', give us a real, legitimate reason for why you feel you need them returned. And, for that matter, HOW their loss has actually affected your enjoyment of the forums here.

Mets may not realize that his post count (as is that of everyone) is shown in the "statistics" box of each username profile.

[boa]

No - I'm quite sure everyone knows now since this has been your side's stance the entire time. Of course, you probably knew this and was just trying to poke fun at people similar to what alloutwar does...

[HoustonGM]

No - I'm quite sure everyone knows now since this has been your side's stance the entire time. Of course, you probably knew this and was just trying to poke fun at people similar to what alloutwar does...
Can you please stop with baseless accusations? Thanks. Rongar did nothing to you, and I'm pretty sure he isn't really following this "post count" nonsense, so I highly doubt he's trying to poke fun at anybody. There was no need to make this silly accusation, and also no need to bring AllOutWar into it.

You just love confrontation, don't you?

[boa]

Well, I get 'chastised' for posting in threads i'm not versed in. If rongar had read the thread, then he would know mets does know how to access post count stats.

[RickD]

THat would be inaccurate because in every post that MetsGuy has made whining about post counts someone has taken the time to point out that they are still accessible and how to access them. I am beginning to think you and MetsGuy are just continuing this nonsense for the sake of arguing.

That's not personal but we have 15 pages on post counts being disabled!

[boa]

Well you are wrong. Thanks for calling something I like nonsense too. Maybe you could kick my dog while you're at it?

[RickD]

:rolleyes: considering the fact that the posts counts are gone on posts are not coming back, you've been told that and told they are accessible still. To continue on is just trolling at this point.

[boa]

You can't get something without asking for it. People change their minds. Sorry you don't like the posts. Please stop calling me a troll. Thanks.

[RickD]

I actually did not call you a troll I said to continue on would be trolling. However I'm done.

[boa]

I don't see how making my wishes known is trolling. Curiouser and curiouser.

[Rongar]

No - I'm quite sure everyone knows now since this has been your side's stance the entire time. Of course, you probably knew this and was just trying to poke fun at people similar to what alloutwar does...

I'm sure that Mets is aware that I was trying to be helpful, rather than taking the Mick...

You're quite right, Boa, there are many threads that I don't read, which is just as well, for I generally forget who wrote what, anyway.

For example, I will forget that, judging by the goes you've had at people in other forums, you got up out of the wrong side of bed this morning....

[boa]

No actually, I'm been in a great mood all day.

[Arctic Blast]

Can you please stop with baseless accusations? Thanks. Rongar did nothing to you, and I'm pretty sure he isn't really following this "post count" nonsense, so I highly doubt he's trying to poke fun at anybody. There was no need to make this silly accusation, and also no need to bring AllOutWar into it.

You just love confrontation, don't you?

The man listens to Michael Savage. I can see how confrontation would be his choice for best method to 'debate'. :D

[BINGLEBOP]

I am beginning to think you and MetsGuy are just continuing this nonsense for the sake of arguing.

Exactly... this thread should be closed like the other post count thread. What else is there to say about the topic?

[RedsoxRockies]

Exactly... this thread should be closed like the other post count thread. What else is there to say about the topic?

This: DGWUILDBIOWUDB. There, done, now close it down and swallow the key and kill the swallower and feed him to a gator and hogtie the gator and givem to the aboriginies