pitcher/batter match-ups

[StreetMedic]

Unlike a few of the folks who've mentioned them here at various times, I actually *like* the intro windows that appear just before starting a game. I have made last-second line-up changes if I see a position player hasn't done well against the opposition's starter. It seems to have worked out well enough.

I also like the individual pitcher/batter match-up stats that show up (rather subtley [sp?], in the lower right corner) while in-game.

All that being said, I wish that level of detail was available when the pitching change window opens. It's nice to see your relievers' numbers against lefty/righty hitters, in general, but it's clear more detailed data is available "behind the scenes".

Along with the information already displayed there, I think it would be nice (and probably not too tough) to also show the specific match-up numbers for the next three hitters or so, as you highlight each of your relief pitchers. (Not unlike how those opening intro windows do it.) You're going to see it anyway, one at a time, as each of those next batters come up. For me, it would be much more useful to know ahead of time if you have any reliever available that "owns" (or is owned by) the next couple of batters (specifically), especially in a high-leverage game situation.

[Arctic Blast]

I like those pregame windows too, StreetMedic. And, yeah, it would be nice to see a little more detail in matchup stats.

[Rongar]

Gentlemen, I take it that these features are in BM09? very interesting...more than ever, I'm inclined to ask Santa for that editon of BM to be placed under my pillow(or am I confused with the Tooth Fairy?)

[StreetMedic]

Gentlemen, I take it that these features are in BM09? very interesting...

Yes, if I'm clear on what "features" you mean.

Here's the long-version of what I mean (for the '09-uninitiated):

There are two intro boxes that open before a game.

One lets you see how your scheduled starting pitcher matches up against your current opponent's lineup. Maybe he's been getting smacked around a bit too much by them, so, if you don't like what you see, you can pluck a different starter.

Then, you get to see the inverse. You can see how your lineup (all nine players, individually) stacks up against the opposition's starter, and you can sub a player who has maybe had better results hitting against him.

Also, in-game, each at-bat has a display in the lower right corner showing how well the current hitter has fared against the current pitcher. Something to the effect of "1-for-6, 1HR, 3Ks, 1BB", for example.

As you know, when you go to put in a reliever, you get to see who the next three batters faced are, and that they're lefty, righty, lefty, for example. And you get to see how each of your relievers has done against lefties versus righties.

I think that it would be useful to have that nice, specific matchup information (that you get during the at-bats) displayed for the upcoming batters when you're deciding which reliever to put in.

Maybe the southpaw you're thinking of calling in doesn't do well against righties, in general, but you may discover that A-Rod's got no hits against him, with a bunch of strikeouts. Maybe, based on that, you put him in, anyway, just to get A-Rod, if it's a high-leverage game situation.

As it stands now, you might pass him over and unwittingly put in a lesser-qualified reliever, because you currently can only base your choice on his handedness. You don't have that *specific* matchup data available until *after* you've already made the pitching change and A-Rod comes up to bat. Whoops. Too late.

Also, of course, it would be nice to have it when you look to drop in a pinch-hitter. It's pointless to pinch hit with a batter who you discover (after *already* subbing him) that even though he's got good numbers against righties, he's 0-for-12 against the *current* righty pitcher, for whatever reason.

I'm saying, hey, the data's in there, obviously. I'd just like to see it one or two steps earlier.

[boa]

Hmm, good points.

[Rongar]

Yes, if I'm clear on what "features" you mean.

Here's the long-version of what I mean (for the '09-uninitiated):

There are two intro boxes that open before a game.

One lets you see how your scheduled starting pitcher matches up against your current opponent's lineup. Maybe he's been getting smacked around a bit too much by them, so, if you don't like what you see, you can pluck a different starter.

Then, you get to see the inverse. You can see how your lineup (all nine players, individually) stacks up against the opposition's starter, and you can sub a player who has maybe had better results hitting against him.

Also, in-game, each at-bat has a display in the lower right corner showing how well the current hitter has fared against the current pitcher. Something to the effect of "1-for-6, 1HR, 3Ks, 1BB", for example.

As you know, when you go to put in a reliever, you get to see who the next three batters faced are, and that they're lefty, righty, lefty, for example. And you get to see how each of your relievers has done against lefties versus righties.

I think that it would be useful to have that nice, specific matchup information (that you get during the at-bats) displayed for the upcoming batters when you're deciding which reliever to put in.

Maybe the southpaw you're thinking of calling in doesn't do well against righties, in general, but you may discover that A-Rod's got no hits against him, with a bunch of strikeouts. Maybe, based on that, you put him in, anyway, just to get A-Rod, if it's a high-leverage game situation.

As it stands now, you might pass him over and unwittingly put in a lesser-qualified reliever, because you currently can only base your choice on his handedness. You don't have that *specific* matchup data available until *after* you've already made the pitching change and A-Rod comes up to bat. Whoops. Too late.

Also, of course, it would be nice to have it when you look to drop in a pinch-hitter. It's pointless to pinch hit with a batter who you discover (after *already* subbing him) that even though he's got good numbers against righties, he's 0-for-12 against the *current* righty pitcher, for whatever reason.

I'm saying, hey, the data's in there, obviously. I'd just like to see it one or two steps earlier.

Thank you, StreetMedic for taking the time and trouble to write such an illuminating post - I am now sold on BM09!

[MeetDaMets]

Also, in-game, each at-bat has a display in the lower right corner showing how well the current hitter has fared against the current pitcher. Something to the effect of "1-for-6, 1HR, 3Ks, 1BB", for example.

I think that it would be useful to have that nice, specific matchup information (that you get during the at-bats) displayed for the upcoming batters when you're deciding which reliever to put in.

I'm saying, hey, the data's in there, obviously. I'd just like to see it one or two steps earlier.

While its nice to hear theres been some improvment in the pregame,

Ive never understood why im only told the batter at the plate is 18 for 20 with 8 HR lifetime* (*oops shoulda said this year)
aganst so and so only after ive brought so and so in.

also applies to my pinch hitters.

i shouldnt have to waste a player to find the appropriate "stats"
to make part of the decision with , in a STAT BASED sim.

Since the data is in there
is a seperate screen with drop down for select pitcher and select batter (game then displays individual matchup stats )
overly difficult ?

[HoustonGM]

Ive never understood why im only told the batter at the plate is 18 for 20 with 8 HR lifetime aganst so and so only after ive brought so and so in.
Heh, it's not even lifetime either...you only get to see this season stats.

[StreetMedic]

Since the data is in there
is a seperate screen with drop down for select pitcher and select batter (game then displays individual matchup stats )
overly difficult ?

Yup.

Exactly what I'm saying.

And, as HoustonGM points out, it is only for that season (unfortunately).

Lifetime stats would be great.

Or, heck, lifetime and current season presented simultaneously.

Dunno if it would be too ungainly to implement. That's Clay's call. But, as we've said, the data's already in there...

[MeetDaMets]

Heh, it's not even lifetime either...you only get to see this season stats.

LOL thanks, i do know that. just didnt type it .:o

ok so the batter is 18 for 20 with 8 hr so far this season ;)
( i suppose that a high number for a reliever/batter matchup so lets assume im bringing in a starter to pitch in the 15th inning k ? )

i do totally understand why the game cant keep the lifetime matchup
that would be a ridiculous volume of data.

but the single season matchup info is already in there , somewhere.
we just cant access it "on demand".