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RedsoxRockies

02-01-2009, 03:57 PM

These are mine:

1: Jar of Flies-Alice in Chains
2: Ten-Pearl Jam
3: Dirt-Alice in Chains
4: Kill 'Em All-Metallica
5: Alice in Chains (Self Titled album)
6: Nevermind-Nirvana
7: Vitalogy-Pearl Jam
8: In Utero-Nirvana
9: Master of Puppets-Metallica
10: Degradation Trip-Jerry Cantrell
11: Superfuzz Bigmuff-Mudhoney
12: Mother Love Bone
13: Facelift-Alice in Chains
14: Sap-Alice in Chains
15: For Blood and Empire- Anti Flag
16: Appeal to Reason- Rise Against
17: A-Sides-Soundgarden
18: If You Want Blood(You've got it)-AC/DC (Live album)
19: Temple of the Dog (Self Titled)
20: Ride the Lightning-Metallica

*I would have a more varied list, but a lot of the bands I listen to that are olderish, like led Zep, I own big "Best Of" albums, like the Mothership (For Lynyrd Skynyrd "Thyrty".) However, I am not counting Best of collections, and am not going to search through albums online where I have not heard big parts of them. So yea, if I did that, Led Zep, Lynyrd Skynyrd, and more would be up there.

** This list changes daily, basically. My favorites usually bounce around after the first 5.

OregonDuck1989

02-01-2009, 04:01 PM

I have five albums I will actually rank as the best I have ever listened to:

1. Brand New: The Devil and God Are Raging Inside Me
2. Rise Against: Siren Song of the Counter Culture
3. Brand New: Deja Entendu
4. Say Anything: ...Is a Real Boy
5. KanYe West: College Dropout

These five CD's I will never grow out of, I consistently listen to them even several years after their release.

Slingshot

02-01-2009, 05:07 PM

You could probably make a case for having 7-8 Beatles albums on this list.

metsguy234

02-01-2009, 05:10 PM

Let's see, there's 4 albums that I bought in full on iTunes

Weird Al's last album, the Hip Hop Harry soundtrack (as a joke), Panic at the Disco (when I was going through my "liking sucky music" phase) and some Simpsons album. I regret buying all of those, except Weird Al.

etothep

02-01-2009, 05:10 PM

You could probably make a case for having 7-8 Beatles albums on this list.

If you like the Beatles, that is

RedsoxRockies

02-01-2009, 05:11 PM

RedsoxRockies

02-01-2009, 05:12 PM

If you like the Beatles, that is

exactly. Why would I make a case for having them on my list when I do not like them?

metsguy234

02-01-2009, 05:12 PM

Do you realize that stuff costs money off Itunes? so that Hip-Hop Harry thing was an expensive joke....

9.99= expensive?

I had a bunch of money in iTunes at that point anyway, from holiday gift cards and such.

RedsoxRockies

02-01-2009, 05:13 PM

9.99= expensive?

I had a bunch of money in iTunes at that point anyway, from holiday gift cards and such.
9.99 could buy 9 songs, 4 tv shows, or be put towards something out of Itunes

metsguy234

02-01-2009, 05:14 PM

There's only one album I've listened to more then 70 times, that's Journey- Greatest Hits. (Weezer's 3 self-titled albums are listed as one album being tied with Journey with 72 plays)

http://www.last.fm/user/metsguy234/charts?subtype=albums

OregonDuck1989

02-01-2009, 05:14 PM

9.99 could buy 9 songs, 4 tv shows, or be put towards something out of Itunes

Unless of course they are iTunes gift cards.

metsguy234

02-01-2009, 05:15 PM

9.99 could buy 9 songs, 4 tv shows, or be put towards something out of Itunes

But they were iTunes gift cards.

RedsoxRockies

02-01-2009, 05:15 PM

Unless of course they are iTunes gift cards.

Yes, but still, money is money, not to be wasted on stupid jokes. Oh well, his loss, it has no effect on me.

rushfan_2112

02-01-2009, 05:17 PM

Hmmm... the 20 best albums ever. That's hard to decide. I'll list mine in no order.

1.)Rush - Signals
2.)Yes - Close to the Edge
3.)Metallica - Kill 'Em All
4.)ELP - Trilogy
5.)Rush - Moving Pictures
6.)Dream Theater - Live at Budokan
7.)Dream Theater - Metropolis Pt. 2: Scenes from a Memory
8.)King Crimson - In the Court of the Crimson King
9.)Iron Maiden - Number of the Beast
10.)Pink Floyd - Dark Side of the Moon
11.)Moody Blues - Days of Futures Past
12.)ELP - Brain Salad Surgery
13.)Yes - Fragile
14.)Rush - Permanent Waves
15.)Rush - Grace Under Pressure
16.)Rush - Power Windows
17.)Metallica - Master of Puppets
18.)Black Sabbath - Paranoid
19.)Alice In Chains - Dirt
20.)SOAD - Toxicity

RedsoxRockies

02-01-2009, 05:18 PM

OregonDuck1989

02-01-2009, 05:19 PM

etothep

02-01-2009, 05:21 PM

I'm one of the few people who doesn't care much for Rush, Beatles, or Queen even though I enjoy the the 'classic rock' genre & most of those band's contemporaries

RedsoxRockies

02-01-2009, 05:27 PM

I'm one of the few people who doesn't care much for Rush, Beatles, or Queen even though I enjoy the the 'classic rock' genre & most of those band's contemporaries

I am one of those other few. I hate Queen, and don't care for the Beatles or Rush

metsguy234

02-01-2009, 05:46 PM

I am one of those other few. I hate Queen, and don't care for the Beatles or Rush

Queen is possibly the best band ever.

If you don't consider Freddy Mercury one of the best singers in history, you're making a fool out of yourself.

RedsoxRockies

02-01-2009, 05:47 PM

Queen is possibly the best band ever.

If you don't consider Freddy Mercury one of the best singers in history, you're making a fool out of yourself.

They were influential yes, but I hate them. Mercury is way too dull, and is not really that talented.

HoustonGM

02-01-2009, 05:48 PM

They were influential yes, but I hate them. Mercury is way too dull, and is not really that talented.
Not really that talented?

Um, NO.

I don't like Queen at all, but to say that Freddie Mercury, and all of the band, aren't talented is just downright not true.

RedsoxRockies

02-01-2009, 05:50 PM

Not really that talented?

Um, NO.

I don't like Queen at all, but to say that Freddie Mercury, and all of the band, aren't talented is just downright not true.

His voice is bland. They made some great songs, but they are dull. His voice does not stand out.

HoustonGM

02-01-2009, 05:56 PM

His voice is bland. They made some great songs, but they are dull. His voice does not stand out.
In your opinion. I agree, but that doesn't make him not talented. It just means you don't like him.

RedsoxRockies

02-01-2009, 05:58 PM

In your opinion. I agree, but that doesn't make him not talented. It just means you don't like him.

I am not saying the band has no talent, just Mercury. He can sing, or else he would not have made it, but he himself would never have made it alone, or with a band that focused more on emotion. He was not adaptable

HoustonGM

02-01-2009, 06:05 PM

I am not saying the band has no talent, just Mercury. He can sing, or else he would not have made it, but he himself would never have made it alone, or with a band that focused more on emotion. He was not adaptable
:confused: You know the guy?

By admitting "He can sing" you're admitting he had talent. He was a very talented singer. That's indisputable. I don't like Beethoven's music, but there's no doubt that he was talented. Stop mixing up personal opinion with fact.

RedsoxRockies

02-01-2009, 06:07 PM

:confused: You know the guy?

By admitting "He can sing" you're admitting he had talent. He was a very talented singer. That's indisputable. I don't like Beethoven's music, but there's no doubt that he was talented. Stop mixing up personal opinion with fact.

He can sing, but he was not talented, he could sing a few songs, got did not have a wide range, could not adapt, and a different singer likely would have worked better for the band. He was all flashy and stuff, but when it came to pure skill, he was limited.

metsguy234

02-01-2009, 06:10 PM

He can sing, but he was not talented, he could sing a few songs, got did not have a wide range, could not adapt, and a different singer likely would have worked better for the band. He was all flashy and stuff, but when it came to pure skill, he was limited.

He did not have a wide range? Couldn't adapt? Limited in pure skill? :eek:

Shut up, right now. You don't know what you're talking about.

RedsoxRockies

02-01-2009, 06:11 PM

He did not have a wide range? Couldn't adapt? Limited in pure skill? :eek:

Shut up, right now. You don't know what you're talking about.

:rolleyes: Like you can talk? LOLOL

ragecage

02-01-2009, 06:12 PM

He can sing, but he was not talented, he could sing a few songs, got did not have a wide range, could not adapt, and a different singer likely would have worked better for the band. He was all flashy and stuff, but when it came to pure skill, he was limited.

you cant possibly be serious. The only way I was able to have the range he had was before my balls dropped. He was fantastic on vocals, and im not huge on Queen either.

metsguy234

02-01-2009, 06:12 PM

:rolleyes: Like you can talk? LOLOL

I don't say that people with amazing talent have no talent.

IMO, there are only a very small handful of people throughout musical history at or above Freddy Mercury's vocal level.

etothep

02-01-2009, 06:15 PM

metsguy & rsr arguing over music? never thought i'd see the day

RedsoxRockies

02-01-2009, 06:19 PM

I don't say that people with amazing talent have no talent.

IMO, there are only a very small handful of people throughout musical history at or above Freddy Mercury's vocal level.

If you consider half of the major music industry a small #..... Staley, Vedder, Cornell, Hetfield, Plant, Lennon, Dickinson, Osbourne, Scott, Johnson, the list goes on and on and on... they were/are all more adaptable, had way better ranges, much better lyrical and vocal ability.

etothep

02-01-2009, 06:20 PM

SoulMan

02-01-2009, 06:50 PM

My definition of "favorite" changes from time to time, but if I had to come up with a Top 20, it would look something like this (not in order of preference):

Elton John - Tumbleweed Connection (1970)
Joni Mitchell - Blue (1971)
Sly & the Family Stone - Fresh (1973)
Stevie Wonder - Innervisions (1973)
Jackson Browne - Late for the Sky (1974)
Stevie Wonder - Fulfillingness' First Finale (1974)
Bob Dylan - Blood on the Tracks (1975)
Stevie Wonder - Songs in the Key of Life (1976)
Fela Kuti - Zombie (1977)
Bob Marley & the Wailers - Exodus (1977)
Prince - Purple Rain (1984)
Run D.M.C. - Run D.M.C. (1984)
Tom Waits - Rain Dogs (1985)
George Michael - Faith (1987)
Michael Jackson - Bad (1987)
Prince - Sign o' the Times (1987)
Fishbone - Truth and Soul (1988)
Janet Jackson - The Velvet Rope (1997)
The Roots - Phrenology (2002)
Gnarls Barkley - St. Elsewhere (2006)

metsguy234

02-01-2009, 06:55 PM

If you consider half of the major music industry a small #..... Staley, Vedder, Cornell, Hetfield, Plant, Lennon, Dickinson, Osbourne, Scott, Johnson, the list goes on and on and on... they were/are all more adaptable, had way better ranges, much better lyrical and vocal ability.

Cornell, Hetfield, Plant, Dickinson, Scott, Johnson= no idea who these people are

Vedder- good voice, but doesn't really rival Freddy Mercury

Staley- You're letting personal bias blind you

Osbourne- Yeah, he could like scream and stuff, Freddy Mercury could sing at that volume that he could scream at and with the same or greater range

Lennon- Another great singer, but no power in his voice at all, and little to no range.

RedsoxRockies

02-01-2009, 07:18 PM

Cornell, Hetfield, Plant, Dickinson, Scott, Johnson= no idea who these people are

Vedder- good voice, but doesn't really rival Freddy Mercury

Staley- You're letting personal bias blind you

Osbourne- Yeah, he could like scream and stuff, Freddy Mercury could sing at that volume that he could scream at and with the same or greater range

Lennon- Another great singer, but no power in his voice at all, and little to no range.

I am serious about Staley. Actually listen to him, whether you like him or not, he was an amazing singer. Chris Cornell was Soundgarden's singer, Hetfield is Metallica's, Plant was Led Zeppelin's, Dickinson was Iron Maiden's, Scott and Johnson sang/sing for AC/DC.

metsguy234

02-01-2009, 07:22 PM

I am serious about Staley. Actually listen to him, whether you like him or not, he was an amazing singer. Chris Cornell was Soundgarden's singer, Hetfield is Metallica's, Plant was Led Zeppelin's, Dickinson was Iron Maiden's, Scott and Johnson sang/sing for AC/DC.

You sent me a youtube link of something he sang live once and I thought, OK singer, but not particularly interesting and not really amazing.

RedsoxRockies

02-01-2009, 07:28 PM

You sent me a youtube link of something he sang live once and I thought, OK singer, but not particularly interesting and not really amazing.

Was it this one? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kqgrEcZndic&feature=related) Listen to this one if not, it is amazing. It is Nutshell

metsguy234

02-01-2009, 07:29 PM

Was it this one? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kqgrEcZndic&feature=related) Listen to this one if not, it is amazing. It is Nutshell

Nope, let's give this one a try.

metsguy234

02-01-2009, 07:31 PM

I can barely even hear him singing, and what I can hear is unintelligible lyrics, and wait, did I just call what he's doing "singing?" This is more like mumbling so far. Mercury didn't mumble his lyrics.

metsguy234

02-01-2009, 07:34 PM

Just finished it, as I said with the last one, it's really boring, and he mumbles the lyrics basically, and sounds depressed.

RedsoxRockies

02-01-2009, 07:46 PM

Ok, so you want loud? Try This (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i3FnQMSD4Zg&feature=related). And something you can't call depressed? here. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oz8ctHV3nwA&feature=related)

Also, here is some of those bands I listed above:

Soundgarden (Note* The video is the weirdest ever, I have no clue what it is getting at...) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oz8ctHV3nwA&feature=related)

Led Zeppelin (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73dvrir5kig)

Iron maiden (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5Snehl2bAk)

Bon Scott with AC/DC. You must have heard this song, lol (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4EqHZQvsaiE)

And this is Pearl Jam performing Black (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AFVlJAi3Cso)

Note that I am not forcing these on you, just giving them to you so you know who I am talking about.

metsguy234

02-01-2009, 07:57 PM

I'm listening to "Would" right now, and now I'm noticing something really annoying about Staley's voice. It is echoing to the point where it sounds like your on one end of a long hallway and he's on the other, singing. And still a vast majority of the song is unintelligible. Better, but not all that good.

RedsoxRockies

02-01-2009, 07:59 PM

metsguy234

02-01-2009, 08:04 PM

It is not echoing. There is two singers, Staley and Cantrell. Or at least it should not be echoing, lol

Ah.

And their videos are weird.

And even with this "No Excuses" song, the lyrics are a bit more understandable, and I can tell that the lyrics convey a good message, but the way they sing, they just sound perpetually depressed to me.

RedsoxRockies

02-01-2009, 08:06 PM

Ah.

And their videos are weird.

And even with this "No Excuses" song, the lyrics are a bit more understandable, and I can tell that the lyrics convey a good message, but the way they sing, they just sound perpetually depressed to me.

Most videos are weird. It is usually not the bands even making them, but producers. When Pearl Jam was trying to make a video for Even Flow, they wanted it too be about a homeless man, and the producer tried to base it at a zoo. I mean, wtf, how did he get that??? :confused: lol

robinhoodnik

02-01-2009, 08:24 PM

robinhoodnik

02-01-2009, 08:27 PM

Cornell, Hetfield, Plant, Dickinson, Scott, Johnson= no idea who these people are

Vedder- good voice, but doesn't really rival Freddy Mercury

Staley- You're letting personal bias blind you

Osbourne- Yeah, he could like scream and stuff, Freddy Mercury could sing at that volume that he could scream at and with the same or greater range

Lennon- Another great singer, but no power in his voice at all, and little to no range.

Chris Cornell = Soundgarden
James Hetfield = Metallica
Robert PLant = Led Zeppelin
Bruce Dickinson = Iron Maiden
Bon Scott = AC/DC pre Back In Black
Brian Johnson = AC/DC post Highway To Hell

BINGLEBOP

02-01-2009, 09:30 PM

When you say this...

I am one of those other few. I hate Queen, and don't care for the Beatles or Rush

They were influential yes, but I hate them. Mercury is way too dull, and is not really that talented.

...before this...

I am not saying the band has no talent, just Mercury. He can sing, or else he would not have made it, but he himself would never have made it alone, or with a band that focused more on emotion. He was not adaptable

He can sing, but he was not talented, he could sing a few songs, got did not have a wide range, could not adapt, and a different singer likely would have worked better for the band. He was all flashy and stuff, but when it came to pure skill, he was limited.

...your opinion loses any merit whatsoever, and it shows that you indeed are biased. You can scream at the top of your lungs that you're not, but when you are obsessed with a band (like Alice In Chains), or you hate the band (like Queen), you cannot objectively evaluate them.

If you wouldn't have revealed that you "hate" Queen, your opinion would have ended up being just that... an opinion. Now it just shows that you are biased. And how can you "hate" any band? That's a pretty strong word there.

By admitting "He can sing" you're admitting he had talent. He was a very talented singer. That's indisputable. I don't like Beethoven's music, but there's no doubt that he was talented. Stop mixing up personal opinion with fact.

Exactly 100%.

you cant possibly be serious. The only way I was able to have the range he had was before my balls dropped. He was fantastic on vocals, and im not huge on Queen either.

Exactly, my opinion is the same. My father is/was a huge Queen fan, so naturally I was exposed to them growing up, but I'm not the biggest fan of theirs either. However, I guarantee that a majority of the bands that I love and a majority of the bands that RedsoxRockies loves (grunge) were not only influenced by Queen, but they would strongly disagree with him in regards to Freddie Mercury's talent.

SoulMan

02-01-2009, 10:22 PM

And how can you "hate" any band? That's a pretty strong word there.

Clearly you've never listened to Air Supply :)

ragecage

02-01-2009, 11:27 PM

Clearly you've never listened to Air Supply :)

lol

RedsoxRockies

02-01-2009, 11:29 PM

Clearly you've never listened to Air Supply :)

Or Paramore....

Arctic Blast

02-01-2009, 11:51 PM

If you consider half of the major music industry a small #..... Staley, Vedder, Cornell, Hetfield, Plant, Lennon, Dickinson, Osbourne, Scott, Johnson, the list goes on and on and on... they were/are all more adaptable, had way better ranges, much better lyrical and vocal ability.

...are you tone deaf? I mean, there's musical opinion and then there's apparently not being able to hear. The only people on that list with the range and overall vocal ability of Freddie Mercury would be Robert Plant and MAYBE Chris Cornell. That's it. JAMES HETFIELD? EDDIE VEDDER? They don't have range! I like both of them, but they don't have range...they're screamers! Ozzy HIMSELF has admitted on numerous occasions that he really can't even sing!

BINGLEBOP

02-02-2009, 12:03 AM

Ozzy HIMSELF has admitted on numerous occasions that he really can't even sing!

LOL, exactly:

"I don't consider myself a great singer--but I have a connection with the audience." --- Ozzy Osbourne

HoustonGM

02-02-2009, 12:11 AM

Yeah. Thrash metal singers like Hetfield aren't great singers. They have awesome voices for their style of music, but that's not what we're discussing here.

Once again, RSR, you're equating your opinion of a person's sound with talent.

Arctic Blast

02-02-2009, 02:05 AM

HoustonGM

02-02-2009, 02:12 AM

Frankly, though, I don't give a rat's ass about how talented someone is. If I like it, I like it. If I don't, I don't.

BINGLEBOP

02-02-2009, 02:42 AM

Anyway, back on topic...

1) Goo Goo Dolls "Superstar Car Wash (http://www.last.fm/music/Goo+Goo+Dolls/Superstar+Car+Wash)"
2) Killingbird "Killingbird (http://www.last.fm/music/Killingbird/Killingbird)"
3) Third Eye Blind "Blue (http://www.last.fm/music/Third+Eye+Blind/Blue)"
4) Betty Blowtorch "Are You Man Enough? (http://www.last.fm/music/Betty+Blowtorch/Are+You+Man+Enough%3F)"
5) Wildside "Under The Influence (http://www.last.fm/music/Wildside/Under+The+Influence)"
6) Wildside "The Wasted Years (http://www.last.fm/music/Wildside/The+Wasted+Years)"
7) Van Halen "Van Halen (http://www.last.fm/music/Van+Halen/Van+Halen)"
8) Guns N' Roses "Appetite For Destruction (http://www.last.fm/music/Guns+N%27+Roses/Appetite+for+Destruction)"
9) Eve 6 "Horrorscope (http://www.last.fm/music/Eve+6/Horrorscope)"
10) The Wildhearts "The Wildhearts Must Be Destroyed (http://www.last.fm/music/The+Wildhearts/The+Wildhearts+Must+Be+Destroyed)"
11) Mariah Carey "Music Box (http://www.last.fm/music/Mariah+Carey/Music+Box)"
12) Insane Clown Posse "The Great Milenko (http://www.last.fm/music/Insane+Clown+Posse/The+Great+Milenko)"
13) Guns N' Roses "Use Your Illusion I (http://www.last.fm/music/Guns+N%27+Roses/Use+Your+Illusion+I)"
14) Toad The Wet Sprocket "Fear (http://www.last.fm/music/Toad+the+Wet+Sprocket/Fear)"
15) Third Eye Blind "Third Eye Blind (http://www.last.fm/music/Third+Eye+Blind/Third+Eye+Blind)"
16) Eminem "The Eminem Show (http://www.last.fm/music/Eminem/The+Eminem+Show)"
17) Jay-Z "Kingdom Come (http://www.last.fm/music/Jay-Z/Kingdom+Come)"
18) Frank Sinatra "In The Wee Small Hours (http://www.last.fm/music/Frank+Sinatra/In+the+Wee+Small+Hours)"
19) Bobby Brown "Dance!...Ya Know It! (http://www.last.fm/music/Bobby+Brown/Dance!...Ya+Know+It!)"
20) Skid Row "Slave To The Grind (http://www.last.fm/music/Skid+Row/Slave+to+the+Grind)"

Arctic Blast

02-02-2009, 02:58 AM

Frankly, though, I don't give a rat's ass about how talented someone is. If I like it, I like it. If I don't, I don't.

Agreed.

As for the Top 20 Albums...I'm seriously going to have to give this some thought to hopefully avoid forgetting a couple of obvious ones.

ragecage

02-02-2009, 07:05 AM

1: Pantera - Great Southern Trendkill
2: Metallica - Master of Puppets
3: Pantera - Far Beyond Driven
4: Slayer - Seasons of the Abyss
5: Pink Floyd - The Wall
6: Metallica - Ride the Lightning
7: Judas Priest - Screaming for Vengence
8: AC/DC - Back in Black
9: Dry Kill Logic - Darker Side of Nonsense
10: Red Hot Chili Peppers - By the Way
11: Metallica - And Justice for All
12: Pantera - Vulgar Display of Power
13: Boston - Self Titled 1976
14: Lynyrd Skynyrd - Street Survivors
15: Metallica - Death Magnetic
16: System of a Down - Toxicity
17: Alice in Chains - Dirt
18: Machine Head - The Blackening
19: Black Sabbath - Paranoid
20: Iron Maiden - A Brave New World

I did this in context of what CD i can listen to from track 1 to the last.

BINGLEBOP

02-02-2009, 10:36 AM

Agreed.

As for the Top 20 Albums...I'm seriously going to have to give this some thought to hopefully avoid forgetting a couple of obvious ones.

Exactly... it took me the better part of a day, because I had to separate what I am listening to a lot NOW compared to something I consider an all-time favorite.

Slingshot

02-02-2009, 10:43 AM

If you like the Beatles, that is

I was speaking from an objective point of view. Of course, music is subjective so I get your point.

Slingshot

02-02-2009, 10:54 AM

They were influential yes, but I hate them. Mercury is way too dull, and is not really that talented.

Mercury is regarded as one of the greatest vocalists of all time. Don't let you personal bias get in the way of rational thinking.

RedsoxRockies

02-02-2009, 11:34 AM

LOL, exactly:

"I don't consider myself a great singer--but I have a connection with the audience." --- Ozzy Osbourne

I am talking about his early Black Sabbath days. He used to sound a lot better.

HoustonGM

02-02-2009, 12:34 PM

I am talking about his early Black Sabbath days. He used to sound a lot better.
See? You think he used to sound better. That's your opinion of his sound. That's not his talent.

justanewguy

02-02-2009, 11:06 PM

Mercury is way too dull, and is not really that talented.

This is a remarkably ignorant and untrue comment, which belies even the most objective ideas of what makes up taste in music.

He had a FOUR OCTAVE vocal range, for one thing, one of the best voices pop music has EVER known, was a classically trained pianist, and an outstanding and incredibly prolific songwriter. I could go on, but there's no point...

And dull? That makes absolutely no sense. He was known for being a showman, and came up with insanely creative music that resides in dozens of different styles. He had a flair for the melodramatic in his songs, and was about as far from "dull" as you can get.

Arctic Blast

02-02-2009, 11:27 PM

Okay, I think I've got my 20.

1. Twilight Singers - Powder Burns.
2. Metallica - Ride the Lightning.
3. Guns n' Roses - Appetite for Destruction.
4. Beck - Midnite Vultures.
5. Ben Harper & the Innocent Criminals - Burn to Shine.
6. Black Sabbath - Paranoid.
7. Common - Like Water for Chocolate.
8. David Bowie - Scary Monsters.
9. Funkadelic - Maggot Brain.
10. The Stooges - Raw Power.
11. James Brown - Live at the Apollo.
12. Led Zeppelin - Led Zeppelin III.
13. Type O Negative - Bloody Kisses.
14. Rolling Stones - Sticky Fingers.
15. The Cult - Sonic Temple.
16. The Clash - London Calling.
17. Social Distortion - White Light, White Heat, White Trash.
18. Ryan Adams - Heartbreaker.
19 Jeff Buckley - Grace.
20. Public Enemy - Apocalypse 91...the Enemy Strikes Black.

Not in any particular order, but those are the 20 I typically listen to most frequently from beginning to end.

RedsoxRockies

02-03-2009, 09:25 AM

Nice list. I love Ride the Lightning, but I have never met anyone who puts it above Master of Puppets and Kill 'Em All(My personal fav.)

BINGLEBOP

02-03-2009, 11:25 AM

RSR, back to refuting the excellent points about Freddie Mercury that have been brought up now. Good luck. :cool:

RedsoxRockies

02-03-2009, 12:18 PM

RSR, back to refuting the excellent points about Freddie Mercury that have been brought up now. Good luck. :cool:

Ok, I admit I was being biased. I have not heard much Queen in a while, since I avoid them, so I was basing my points on the few things I have heard recently. This, however, does not change my opinion of them....

justanewguy

02-03-2009, 12:28 PM

Ok, I admit I was being biased. I have not heard much Queen in a while, since I avoid them, so I was basing my points on the few things I have heard recently. This, however, does not change my opinion of them....

Simply saying "I don't like Queen" or "I think Queen is overrated" or even "Queen sucks" would have been more sensible and educated. It's one thing to not like them, but claiming that Freddie Mercury is untalented based on having probably only heard Queen's biggest hit songs... it'd be kind of like looking at Deion Sanders' BA and OBP in baseball and concluding that he was a terrible athlete.

Take or leave Queen, but Freddie Mercury was as talented as rock musicians come. Just a poor choice of words. Good to see that you admit the bias though.

I'm a pretty big Queen fan, but I gotta say, half their songs really get on my nerves. For me, it's a really hit-or-miss band. Many of their songs (Killer Queen, Good Old Fashioned Lover Boy, Bicycle Race, Good Company, Lazing on a Sunday Afternoon) are brilliant and among my all time favorite songs, while others fall flat in my mind. "We Will Rock You," for instance, is an awful song.

RedsoxRockies

02-03-2009, 12:30 PM

Simply saying "I don't like Queen" or "I think Queen is overrated" or even "Queen sucks" would have been more sensible and educated. It's one thing to not like them, but claiming that Freddie Mercury is untalented based on having probably only heard Queen's biggest hit songs... it'd be kind of like looking at Deion Sanders' batting average in baseball and concluding that he was a terrible athlete.

Take or leave Queen, but Freddie Mercury was as talented as rock musicians come. Just a poor choice of words. Good to see that you admit the bias though.

I'm a pretty big Queen fan, but I gotta say, half their songs really get on my nerves. For me, it's a really hit-or-miss band. Many of their songs (Killer Queen, Good Old Fashioned Lover Boy, Bicycle Race, Good Company, Lazing on a Sunday Afternoon) are brilliant and among my all time favorite songs, while others fall flat in my mind. "We Will Rock You," for instance, is an awful song.

We Will Rock you and We Are the Champions are truly awful, and Another One Bites the Dust. But yea, part of my dislike was their lack of seriousness

BINGLEBOP

02-03-2009, 01:17 PM

HoustonGM

02-03-2009, 01:31 PM

Ok, I admit I was being biased. I have not heard much Queen in a while, since I avoid them, so I was basing my points on the few things I have heard recently. This, however, does not change my opinion of them....
Nor should it. I don't like Queen's music either.

Freddie Mercury's talent, though, isn't something that's up for debate.

Slingshot

02-03-2009, 03:12 PM

Greatest live performance ever:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ArbARCeam3I

RedsoxRockies

02-03-2009, 04:25 PM

Greatest live performance ever:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ArbARCeam3I

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AFVlJAi3Cso

I beg to differ. Though that performance you posted did prove to me he can sing. But Black(Pearl Jam) at Lollapalooza 1992 beats it out. And virtually that whole concert by Pearl Jam. Amazing..... Purely amazing

Arctic Blast

02-03-2009, 04:25 PM

Nice list. I love Ride the Lightning, but I have never met anyone who puts it above Master of Puppets and Kill 'Em All(My personal fav.)

Master of Puppets is also a terrific album...I'm not a Kill em All fan at all, though. There are some standout tracks, but I get tired VERY quickly of teenage James Hetfield shrieking like a kid waiting for his voice to drop.

RedsoxRockies

02-03-2009, 04:27 PM

Master of Puppets is also a terrific album...I'm not a Kill em All fan at all, though. There are some standout tracks, but I get tired VERY quickly of teenage James Hetfield shrieking like a kid waiting for his voice to drop.

I like the fast pace on Kill 'Em All. Hit the lights, Whiplash, and the Four Horseman are amazing. My favorite tune on Ride the Lightning is Fade to Black The anti metsguy song :D), and my favorite overall by Metallica is Sanitarium or Hit The Lights.

metsguy234

02-03-2009, 04:32 PM

What about that song makes it the anti-Metsguy song?

RedsoxRockies

02-03-2009, 04:42 PM

What about that song makes it the anti-Metsguy song?

It is a suicide song

Joe12Pack

02-03-2009, 08:49 PM

This is by no means a perfect list, ranking-wise, as I didn't spend a whole lot of time on it. But I think I got everything I wanted in there. Although I had another 10 or so I had a difficult time kicking off, and several newfound albums I really want to put on but can't bring myself to...

Also, a lot of bands I absolutely love are absent from this list on account of lack of strong albums. This list probably doesn't reflect my love for music from '65 to '75 as much as I'd like it to. And one of my top 3 favorite artists ever - Hank Williams Sr. - is completely off the list, because he isn't really an albums guy, or a blow-you-away albums guy.

1. The Beatles - Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band
2. John Lennon - John Lennon/Plastic Ono Band
3. They Might Be Giants - John Henry
4. The Who - The Who Sell Out
5. The Beach Boys - Pet Sounds
6. The Beatles - Revolver
7. The Beatles - Abbey Road
8. Pixies - Trompe le Monde
9. ABBA - The Visitors (re-issue version with bonus tracks)
10. Frank Black - Teenager of the Year
11. Oingo Boingo - Dead Man's Party
12. Bob Hund - 10 år bakåt & 100 år framåt
13. REM - Murmur
14. Lou Reed - Transformer
15. The Kinks - The Kinks are the Village Green Preservation Society
16. Devo - Duty Now for the Future
17. Super Furry Animals - Rings Around the World
18. Frank Zappa & The Mothers of Invention - We're Only in It for the Money
19. Ben Folds - Rockin' the Suburbs
20. The Dead Milkmen - Not Richard But Dick

oriole^

02-05-2009, 04:46 PM

Wow, this was tough. I know I didn't get them all, and I have at least twenty more written down here that didn't quite make the cut, which was really difficult to do... and yeah, they're slanted towards the older albums, 'cause I'm an older guy. :p

As joe said above, some don't make it because of their lack of albums, such as all the punk bands of the early '80s - without which you could kiss off Nirvana, Alice in Chains, Pearl Jam, and so forth...which explains why they don't make the list. There's a reason why these are the classics.

1. The Who - Who's Next
2. The Beatles - Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band
3. Pink Floyd - Dark Side of the Moon
4. The Beatles - Abbey Road
5. The Clash - London Calling
6. Led Zeppelin - Led Zeppelin IV
7. Bruce Springsteen - Born to Run
8. The Beach Boys - Pet Sounds
9. Bob Dylan - Highway 61 Revisited
10. Sex Pistols - Never Mind the Bollocks, Here's the Sex Pistols
11. Public Enemy - It Takes a Nation of Millions to Hold Us Back
12. The Beatles - Revolver
13. Simon & Garfunkel - Parsley, Sage, Rosemary, and Thyme
14. James Brown - Live at the Apollo
15. Meat Loaf - Bat Out of Hell
16. Miles Davis - Kind of Blue
17. Pink Floyd - The Wall
18. Dave Brubeck Quartet - Time Out
19. Beastie Boys - Paul's Boutique
20. Steely Dan - Aja

Arctic Blast

02-05-2009, 06:57 PM

I found the first ten or so just popped in to my head and were blatantly obvious. However, after that it got really tough to choose between a bunch of choices.

And there were a lot of bands I am a HUGE fan of that just don't have that one lights out album I could name.

Joe12Pack

02-06-2009, 11:18 AM

1. The Who - Who's Next
2. The Beatles - Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band
3. Pink Floyd - Dark Side of the Moon
4. The Beatles - Abbey Road
5. The Clash - London Calling
6. Led Zeppelin - Led Zeppelin IV
7. Bruce Springsteen - Born to Run
8. The Beach Boys - Pet Sounds
9. Bob Dylan - Highway 61 Revisited
10. Sex Pistols - Never Mind the Bollocks, Here's the Sex Pistols
11. Public Enemy - It Takes a Nation of Millions to Hold Us Back
12. The Beatles - Revolver
13. Simon & Garfunkel - Parsley, Sage, Rosemary, and Thyme
14. James Brown - Live at the Apollo
15. Meat Loaf - Bat Out of Hell
16. Miles Davis - Kind of Blue
17. Pink Floyd - The Wall
18. Dave Brubeck Quartet - Time Out
19. Beastie Boys - Paul's Boutique
20. Steely Dan - Aja

Very good list.