Waiver wire Inquary

[TheNamelessPoet]

Was Rios "traded" or released and imediatly picked up.
For example could a player with a notrade clause be "waived" to another player or is it an official trade?

[haveacigar]

the transaction is "selected off waivers."

[asianinvasion]

http://www.purplerow.com/2009/2/19/762532/mlb-transactions-part-thre

If you read here, it seems to imply that Rios had to waive his no-trade clause.

[HoustonGM]

Yes, a no-trade clause is basically a "no-move" clause. Rios had to accept the transaction.

[Slingshot]

Who decides that a player should be placed on waivers?

[HoustonGM]

Who decides that a player should be placed on waivers?
Teams place players on waivers.

http://www.baseballprospectus.com/unfiltered/?p=1362

[TheNamelessPoet]

the team

[Slingshot]

Teams place players on waivers.

http://www.baseballprospectus.com/unfiltered/?p=1362

If a team decides to keep a waived player on its major league roster, is that because they were unable to make a trade involving said player and also to make sure he doesn't to go a division rival?

[HoustonGM]

If a team decides to keep a waived player on its major league roster, is that because they were unable to make a trade involving said player and also to make sure he doesn't to go a division rival?
At this time of year, almost every year player gets put on waivers. Right now players can be placed on revocable waivers, which means that teams have the option of "pulling back" a player if he's claimed (but then he can't be placed on revocable waivers again). If a team decides to keep a claimed player, it's usually because they simply didn't want to trade him and he was only on waivers as a matter of procedure. Sometimes, it might be because a rival claimed the player and they don't want him going to that team. Other times, it's because no trade could be worked out and they didn't want to give him up for free.

[TheNamelessPoet]

Good explination HGM

[Slingshot]

At this time of year, almost every year player gets put on waivers. Right now players can be placed on revocable waivers, which means that teams have the option of "pulling back" a player if he's claimed (but then he can't be placed on revocable waivers again). If a team decides to keep a claimed player, it's usually because they simply didn't want to trade him and he was only on waivers as a matter of procedure. Sometimes, it might be because a rival claimed the player and they don't want him going to that team. Other times, it's because no trade could be worked out and they didn't want to give him up for free.

What's the point of putting a player on waivers if you're going to keep him anyway? And if you pull your player back after he's been on revocable waivers, does that mean you either have to trade him or let him go if another team claims him later on?



Forgive my lack of knowledge btw. :)

[HoustonGM]

What's the point of putting a player on waivers if you're going to keep him anyway?
To "put feelers out" so to speak is one reason. The main reason, though, is that it's just procedural to run your roster through waivers in August.


And if you pull your player back after he's been on revocable waivers, does that mean you either have to trade him or let him go if another team claims him later on?
If you pull him back, he's OFF waivers, meaning he can't be traded or placed back on revocable waivers for the rest of the season.

[asianinvasion]

You can sneak some of the lesser guys inbetween your star players so then if he clears, you can trade the lesser guy away to any team

[TheNamelessPoet]

Also ... maybe you dont think their is much intrest in your player yet another team is willing to take a chance on him. instead of cutting him you may get a b level prospect or something. Boston gor David Ortiz on waivers from Minny remember... you never know if their is intrest in your player. If say you are say the Mets and someone puts a 1B on the wire (cant think of who... say nick johnson was still on the Nats) and the mets are 4-5 games out... well on august 15th it might be worth the nats dumping him for nothing just to say a million bucks or so since he wont be a Type B and they will just lose him anyway.

You never know the guys that might sift thru

[Slingshot]

To "put feelers out" so to speak is one reason. The main reason, though, is that it's just procedural to run your roster through waivers in August.


If you pull him back, he's OFF waivers, meaning he can't be traded or placed back on revocable waivers for the rest of the season.

But he can still be claimed by another team, right?

[asianinvasion]

Actually, I think Ortiz was non-tendered

[TheNamelessPoet]

Actually, I think Ortiz was non-tendered

you are correct (http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/o/ortizda01.shtml)

[HoustonGM]

But he can still be claimed by another team, right?
Not once he was claimed and pulled back, no. The only way he can be claimed by another team is if you then place him on outright release waivers, which would then give teams a chance to claim him for only the minimum pro-rated salary (and you pick up the rest if he is claimed), and if nobody claims him, he's released but you're responsible for the remaining salary on his contract.


Actually, I think Ortiz was non-tendered
He was.

[skudplayr]

OOTP has a waiver system and it's pretty interesting to tinker with (that whole game is interesting). Then again, I always come back to BM because it's much more simple and doesn't take 10 years to finish a year.

[asianinvasion]

Well, now you know how a GM feels lol

[skudplayr]

Well, now you know how a GM feels lol

Haha don't get me wrong. I love playing OOTP because it makes me feel more like a real GM. But I prefer BM's play-by-play mode and the simplicity of roster moves. In OOTP you have put guys on your 40 man roster and place guys on waivers if you want to take them off the roster or if they're out of options. It's fun at times but also extremely tedious. Especially because you often have to wait three days to see if the guy clears waivers before you can send him down. And the ratings system in OOTP is much more complicated.

However, OOTP's offseason kind of blows BM out of the water.

[Slingshot]

One more question I'm wondering about. From Wikipedia:


If no team claims a player from waivers in three business days, the player has cleared waivers and may be assigned to a minor league team, traded, or released outright.

Let's say he doesn't get traded or released outright, can he still be on the major league roster or does he have to be assigned to a minor league team?

[HoustonGM]

One more question I'm wondering about. From Wikipedia:

Let's say he doesn't get traded or released outright, can he still be on the major league roster or does he have to be assigned to a minor league team?
In the case of the revocable waivers that are being used in August, he can still be kept on the roster. For irrevocable waivers like when you release or designate a player for assignment, it must be one of those options.

[Slingshot]

Thanks for the info, HGM. You've been very helpful.

[HoustonGM]

No problem