You've got to be kidding....BBMogul 2010 12.12 [Archive]

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Biggguy

08-13-2009, 08:45 AM

Please excuse a short venting to start....

I have been buying this game yearly since the beginning, and have always been pretty happy. However, Baseball Mogul 2010 is turning out to be a major disappointment....I know any program is bound to have bugs here and there- but this one- wow....

I have three major issues here:

1. Program sometime crashes exiting commissioner mode. This usually happens when trying to edit a player immediately after free agent signing. I make whatever changes I deem necessary- hit refresh to check my changes (also see issue 2)- and when I hit "done" to leave the edit mode- the program becomes unresponsive, and Windows closes it. This also happens at random at other times as well- I have come to the point where I always save the game before I make changes- just in case.

2. This is in commissioner mode as well- the program sometimes changes any edits I've made. I'll go through and change what I want- and what happens is the game changes to what it wants to, regardless of what I want. This is pretty constant.

The two above issues are things I can live with- but it's #3 here that kind of pushed me over the edge.

3. The expansion drafts are nightmares! I just went through one that pushed me over the edge here! It was a 1969 draft. First of all, it didn't ask me whether I wanted to add teams, or automate the draft...it just informed me it was adding the four appropriate teams. Fine with that- but the game then proceeded to really foul things up:

1. The Seattle Pilots got 11 batters and a full pitching roster
2. The San Diego Padres and Montreal Expos got each 1 batter and full
pitching rosters.
3. The Kansas City Royals got no batters, but full pitching.

Now I've seen something to that effect before with this game...earlier drafts would give 14 batters and full pitching, but the rest of the players would appear- usually by the time the amateur draft occurred.

This time however, I never got that far. Admittedly I was playing what I call an "enhanced team"- yes, I modified the players, using the available protocols..., and I simmed through 3 games....and was beaten three times with negative scores for my team (one of the scores was -64 to 0!)- and when viewing the box score- they were didn't add up (I had one player on my team showing he hit nine home runs in six at-bats, but had only 1 RBI)- and nothing else made any sense.

There are a few other little things I could complain about- but nothing I can't live with.

Has anyone else had any experience with the game going nuts like this? I'm just about ready to re-load 2009.....

For the record- running version 12.12 on Windows Vista Basic......

jshaw

08-13-2009, 08:46 AM

can you post the mog file of issue 3?

Gocardinals

08-13-2009, 08:59 AM

In the league editor, you can set historical expansion to none, automatic, or ask first.

Jeff Olsen

08-13-2009, 09:28 AM

This time however, I never got that far. Admittedly I was playing what I call an "enhanced team"- yes, I modified the players, using the available protocols..., and I simmed through 3 games....and was beaten three times with negative scores for my team (one of the scores was -64 to 0!)- and when viewing the box score- they were didn't add up (I had one player on my team showing he hit nine home runs in six at-bats, but had only 1 RBI)- and nothing else made any sense.That's a rollover issue.

Vance

08-13-2009, 11:21 AM

BrewCrewFan

08-13-2009, 01:53 PM

well that's what you get for cheating. these changes including the game freezing were added to the game to prevent cheaters. you will not cheat in the eyes of our lord and savior jesus christ, nor in the confines of baseball mogul!

Happens to those of us who don't cheat too. I posted a bug thread re: the 1969 draft and players being selected under the min age, and I have not modified the players, etc.

Maybe you need to accept that each time a bug is fixed, another seems to appear or reappear, and that apparently Clay isn't interested in fixing any of the bugs that have been reported for the last 2 months now that he has out $$, like last year (how many patches after July 1 last year?-and this year is worse yet). I'm sure he will fix some of them for us for another $35 next year, however.

RickD

08-13-2009, 02:53 PM

Bugs are fixed pretty regularly though. I know there have been less patches but Clay was also pretty sick for awhile if I remember recent posts. For all we know he could be working on a mega-patch as we speak.

Clay Dreslough

08-13-2009, 03:10 PM

Happens to those of us who don't cheat too. I posted a bug thread re: the 1969 draft and players being selected under the min age, and I have not modified the players, etc.

Maybe you need to accept that each time a bug is fixed, another seems to appear or reappear, and that apparently Clay isn't interested in fixing any of the bugs that have been reported for the last 2 months now that he has out $$, like last year (how many patches after July 1 last year?-and this year is worse yet). I'm sure he will fix some of them for us for another $35 next year, however.This is much more about stability than about money. If I keep releasing patches through December, then I don't have any time to actually add new features for next year's game. Or if I do add features, I don't have time to fix the bugs. I'm working on these issues, but I want to make sure changes are tested as much as possible. As you pointed out, fixing bugs often leads to new bugs.

I haven't seen issue #3 above. There were some drafting batter/pitcher balance issues, but they weren't severe (everyone had a valid team after the draft) and I was fairly sure they were fixed for 12.12. So, if you could post the mog file before the draft that would be helpful. Otherwise I'll just have to keep playing and see if I can reproduce it.

BrewCrewFan

08-13-2009, 10:01 PM

Everything in #3 happens in this mog file, plus keeps drafting 21 year old players despite the min age still being set at 22--4 or 5 of the 6 choices were under 22 years old in most of the times I tried to run the draft.

Sipimi

08-13-2009, 11:47 PM

I haven't seen issue #3 above. There were some drafting batter/pitcher balance issues, but they weren't severe (everyone had a valid team after the draft) and I was fairly sure they were fixed for 12.12. So, if you could post the mog file before the draft that would be helpful. Otherwise I'll just have to keep playing and see if I can reproduce it.

You sure have done a lot about some important bugs Clay, but the expansion draft still has some issues, the most important being that you have to protect (and can select) 21 yrs old after the first expansion draft even if the minimal age is 22 (ex: if you start in 1969, you can draft 21 yrs in 1977).

The teams also draft very few hitters and, most of the time, have to play 18 or 19 yrs old prospects with a 50-60 overall. The teams have full rosters, but they are not well balanced. In the draft, they always use the same pattern, drafting only pitchers in the 2nd round (mostly SP since RP are protected too much) and mostly pitchers through round 3 and 4. The result is that your team's overall is, most of the time, 10 points better than the other ones.

I can post a .mog but I think that by trying a couple of times you'll find the same issues as I've been experiencing since I've tested the expansion draft with BM10.

Biggguy

08-14-2009, 01:13 AM

OK....first off, thanks to everyone for their attempts at help...

A couple more comments:

Issue 3 with the '69 expansion draft- I've tried it a couple of more times since posting.....and it does the same thing- no matter whether "automatic" or "ask me" is used. Only way around it is to turn it off, and add the teams manually....

The original mog file was asked for- before draft was requested. I am going to attempt sending one I saved on 12/31/68- and the mog files for the four expansion teams immediately after the draft....hopefully they'll help solve this problem.

I'm about ready to just delete the game out and re-install. Thank god I saved the zip file when I downloaded.

Thanks again,

Bigg

PS: To my fellow user Vance- I'm not a religious type, but if I'm not mistaken, Jesus loved everyone regardless of what they had or hadn't done. You'd do well to learn some of that tolerance. You play your game your way, I'll play mine- neither of us is right or wrong.