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free2131
09-29-2009, 02:14 PM
http://a323.yahoofs.com/ymg/ept_sports_mlb_experts__38/ept_sports_mlb_experts-295485720-1254228494.jpg?ymOY59BD.T56sOiQ

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/blog/big_league_stew/post/About-that-Clint-Barmes-catch-on-Sunday-Was-?urn=mlb,192799


The paths to the postseason are always paved with a few good breaks and no one knows that quite like the Rockies. Back in 2007, Colorado earned entry after Matt Holliday(notes) scored the winning run in a tiebreaker game against the Padres. Did he touch the plate? Did he miss it? We know which answer we'll get from Holliday, but it remains rather debatable.

Two seasons later, it appears the Rockies might have received another lucky bookend with the ruling on Clint Barmes' circus catch against the Cardinals on Sunday. Though the second baseman was able to turn the over-the-shoulder barrel-roll grab into a game-ending double play, a series of photos published by Rockies fan Craig Welling later that night contains one picture (upper right) where it appears the ball hits the ground. Watch the play here.

So Rockies and fellow fans, was it the greatest catch never made?

From the Denver Post:

"Only me and Barmes know the truth. It's the same as (Matt) Holliday touching home plate," outfielder Ryan Spilborghs(notes) said Monday of the controversial slide that clinched the Rockies' 2007 playoff berth. "It's better that it's (mysterious)."

Barmes could not be reached Monday, but said after Sunday's game, "It all happened so fast. . . . I think as I was going down it hit my glove and then it went across my body or something. I don't know. I know I came up with it in my bare hand."

Think fans of the fast-charging Braves or the homefield-chasing Cardinals are interested in this evidence? If the ball is ruled a drop, Julio Lugo(notes) would have scored the tying run and the Cardinals would have had runners at the corners with one out. However, the Rockies would have had one more chance at the plate, so it's not as if we can definitively say that St. Louis would have won the game and Atlanta would have crept another game closer in the NL wild card standings.

And because we don't live in a world where a game is reversed after Greg Brady blows up a photo to show a football player out of bounds, Sunday's game will stand for Colorado's benefit. Hey, it was a fast-moving play and not even the replay angles show the ball on the ground. Baseball's history is filled with crazy breaks and it may have just gained one more.

Said Troy Tulowitzki to the Post: "Who cares now? (We won.)"

free2131
09-29-2009, 02:16 PM
So, the Rockies steal another one. If the Braves finish one back, I call for the immediate boycott of the MLB playoffs and the contraction of the Colorado Rockies... :mad:



















;)

DiceDig
09-29-2009, 02:29 PM
agreed!!!~~~

SirKodiak
09-29-2009, 02:54 PM
http://a323.yahoofs.com/ymg/ept_sports_mlb_experts__38/ept_sports_mlb_experts-295485720-1254228494.jpg?ymOY59BD.T56sOiQ

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/blog/big_league_stew/post/About-that-Clint-Barmes-catch-on-Sunday-Was-?urn=mlb,192799


HAHAHAHAHA Pujols basically blew that game for them :D

Guess that rf4e needs to change Pujols to the umpires, who were horrible the entire series.

OregonDuck1989
09-29-2009, 03:27 PM
The umps were pretty god awful.

Jeffy25
09-29-2009, 04:20 PM
he's a cardinal fan :D

rockiesfan4ever
09-29-2009, 04:38 PM
You do realize that the umps blew a call where Dexter Fowler was across the bag before the ball got there and was called out?

Jeffy25
09-29-2009, 04:39 PM
You do realize that the umps blew a call where Dexter Fowler was across the bag before the ball got there and was called out?

the umps in this entire series were awful....and being a cardinal fan, i have no issue with admitting we got more than our share of calls.

the game that we clinched in....we should have lost.

and i was serious, i wasn't being cute, clint barnes really is a cards fan, grew up loving ozzie ;)

rockiesfan4ever
09-29-2009, 04:40 PM
the umps in this entire series were awful....and being a cardinal fan, i have no issue with admitting we got more than our share of calls.

the game that we clinched in....we should have lost.

Ya, I'll admit the same thing. Schumacher was safe at first in the 9th inning of the last game but that's the way baseball is

Jeffy25
09-29-2009, 04:41 PM
Ya, I'll admit the same thing. Schumacher was safe at first in the 9th inning of the last game but that's the way baseball is

agreed, but that umpire crew was awful the entire series.

bad calls for and against both teams, terrible.

kodiak had the umps chart in the mlb thread in the game we clinched.....it was AWFUL!

rockiesfan4ever
09-29-2009, 04:42 PM
Ya, I thought that strike call on Giambi was questionable.

Also, this is the reaction Purple Row about it (Purple Row is a Rockies blog), but they also show that the Cards could've tied it if Lugo had scored before Pujols was out http://www.purplerow.com/2009/9/28/1059340/that-play-that-ended-yesterdays

Jeffy25
09-29-2009, 04:43 PM
purple row sounds like a band jimmi hendrix would have played for:cool:

rockiesfan4ever
09-29-2009, 04:44 PM
purple row sounds like a band jimmi hendrix would have played for:cool:

I know :D

SirKodiak
09-29-2009, 04:59 PM
Guess that rf4e needs to change Pujols to the umpires, who were horrible the entire series.


He was horrid. He was the same one that called the Rockies player (Fowler?) out at first the night before.
http://www.brooksbaseball.net/pfx/zoneplotn.php?xml=http://gd2.mlb.com/components/game/mlb/year_2009/month_09/day_26/gid_2009_09_26_slnmlb_colmlb_1//pbp/pitchers/425794.xml&sp_type=1


You do realize that the umps blew a call where Dexter Fowler was across the bag before the ball got there and was called out?

:p

rockiesfan4ever
09-29-2009, 05:02 PM
:p

Just checking

Jeffy25
09-29-2009, 05:41 PM
kodiak hears his name in some distant thread, and reacts!

metsguy234
09-29-2009, 06:39 PM
It's all a conspiracy to get Colorado to win.

rockiesfan4ever
09-29-2009, 06:42 PM
It's all a conspiracy to get Colorado to win.

OH YES OF COURSE THE MLB WOULD WANT colorado, OUT OF EVERY TEAM THEY WOULD WANT COLORADO TO WIN IT ALL!!!!!

rockiesfan4ever
09-29-2009, 06:43 PM
Also, make this call MG: http://colorado.rockies.mlb.com/media/video.jsp?topic_id=col&c_id=col

metsguy234
09-29-2009, 06:44 PM
Also, make this call MG: http://colorado.rockies.mlb.com/media/video.jsp?topic_id=col&c_id=col

You linked me to a video about Jim Tracy wtf
:confused:

metsguy234
09-29-2009, 06:46 PM
OH YES OF COURSE THE MLB WOULD WANT colorado, OUT OF EVERY TEAM THEY WOULD WANT COLORADO TO WIN IT ALL!!!!!

Yep. Hence the conspiracy.

OregonDuck1989
09-29-2009, 07:53 PM
It's all a conspiracy to get Colorado to win.

I hope so.

SirKodiak
09-29-2009, 09:23 PM
kodiak hears his name in some distant thread, and reacts!

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3511/3205093675_79472f1217.jpg

Jeffy25
09-29-2009, 09:33 PM
dude, brush those teeth!