A couple questions

[jeemen]

Ok, so you don't gain any money from making the playoffs? Is this true? How am I supposed to make $? I am currently in a league with the Cubs ( in 1st place) and I'm still only drawing 20,000 per game. How am I supposed to make $?

Another question--What happens If I don't re-sign a player DURING the last year of his contract? Can I sign him in the offseason or does he automatically become a free agent?

Is there any way I can get a hold of all of the rules?

I don't own the CD -- I just started playing on-line.

Thanks

PS--love the game! you guys are doin a great job!
love the feedback.

[takaplan]

Ok, so you don't gain any money from making the playoffs? Is this true? How am I supposed to make $? I am currently in a league with the Cubs ( in 1st place) and I'm still only drawing 20,000 per game. How am I supposed to make $?Correct, you do not gain revenue from the playoffs. But, if you have winning seasons, your revenue and attendance will increase each year.
Another question--What happens If I don't re-sign a player DURING the last year of his contract? Can I sign him in the offseason or does he automatically become a free agent?You must resign each player you want to keep before the World Series is over. Once the World Series is over, all unsigned players become free agents. Of course, once they become free agents, you can bid on them again and sign them.
Is there any way I can get a hold of all of the rules?You can access the help files by clicking on the 'Help' link in the left menu bar. These files are not yet complete, and contain some broken links. The official rules of baseball can be found here (http://www.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/mlb/baseball_basics/mlb_basics_foreward.jsp).

[jeemen]

Thank you

You guys are extremely fast in replying.

[datrain021]

I think that a team that makes the playoffs should be entitled to at least some of the profits from ticket revenue. I understand that TV revenue is propbaly divided amoung the teams in real life, but the teams get to keep at least a part of ticket money from playoff games, this would be more money than it would take to pay the players, so playoff teams deserve to have the revenues.

[takaplan]

In real life, all the playoff revenue is split throughout the league. You will see an improvement in revenue the following years if you keep winning...and it can be as drastic as having your attendance go up from 23,000 to 30,000.



Originally posted by Clay Dreslough
This is deliberate. In professional baseball, all playoff revenue (TV and tickets) is collected in a "general fund" that is divided equally among all the teams.

Clay

[nysteinbrenner]

Originally posted by takaplan
In real life, all the playoff revenue is split throughout the league. You will see an improvement in revenue the following years if you keep winning...and it can be as drastic as having your attendance go up from 23,000 to 30,000.



Tom:

As I stated earlier in another thread a while back, this is only partially correct. Only the revenue from the "minimum number" of playoff games in each series (games 1-3 in the ALDS/NLDS, and games 1-4 in the ALCS/NLCS/WS) are distributed via the Central Fund. Revenue from games 4-5, or 5-6-7, as the case may be, is equally split between the opposing clubs.

[kohut]

There was an error stated in these posts. Once your teams loyalty is A+ you arent goign to keep generating more revenue. So like after the Cubs win the world series a couple times or make it to A+ loyalty you will probably generate about 400 in revenue and thats the cutoff line. Chicago has a poor fan base because they didnt split North and South Chicago into two different sections. We all know Cubs fans have a very loyal fan base compared to the Whitesox. I would bet they generate one of the highest revenues in all of Major League Baseball. I would say high tier 2. New stadium would probably put them into tier 1.
Anyyways as soon as this ommision is corrected the Cubs will be more solid.

[James Grove]

NYSteinbrenner -

Can you point me to the source where you got the info about post-season revenues?

If we can find an authoritative source that can give us better insight into the revenue splits, then we can readjust the way it works in the game.

We're always open to improvements that make the game more realistic.

Thanks,
James

[kohut]

James, its the fan base of Chicago that stinks. It needs to be split up into two sections to reflect the loyal cubs fans and fickle whitesox fans.

[James Grove]

I always wanted a Stooge!

Thanks, Kohut, "James's Stooge"!

-James

P.S. If you should ever change your discussion board title, this won't make much sense any more...

P.P.S. Yes, I'm bugging Clay about the Cubs issue. It's a bit problematic anywhere we have two teams in close proximity.

[takaplan]

hehe! well at least James' stooge is better than Sportsmogul Owner, like it was before ;)

Tom

[nysteinbrenner]

Originally posted by James Grove
NYSteinbrenner -

Can you point me to the source where you got the info about post-season revenues?

If we can find an authoritative source that can give us better insight into the revenue splits, then we can readjust the way it works in the game.

We're always open to improvements that make the game more realistic.

Thanks,
James

James:
Somewhere in one of these message threads the subject was discussed at length, and I posted the information in that thread back then. I don't have it at the ready right now otherwise I'd re-post it.

My source for the information is from the horse's mouth, so to speak: I was one of those who bought the first series of shares of the Cleveland Indians back when they went public, and it made mention of it in their IPO documentation. In that thread (wherever it is) I put down the IPO's wording, which paraphrased is...

-- MLB's Central Fund gets the revenue from the "minimum number" of games from each playoff series (games 1-3 for ALDS/NLDS, games 1-4 for ALCS/NLCS and WS).
-- Should the series go beyond a sweep, any ticket revenue generated from those "extra" games is evenly split between the competing clubs. It didn't make any mention of concession revenues and the like, though I suspect they're kept by the home club. The Indians averaged about $8-12M in revenue a year from this during the period from 1995-1999.

Though I lost $$$ on being a "part owner" of the Indians, what I gained in the behind the scenes workings of the team was worth the investment. :)

I've also recently heard these splits reiterated during one of the ALCS telecasts, though which one escapes me, and in this morning's USA Today they mention it peripherally in conjunction with the D'Backs future revenues from merchandise sales, ticket sales, and the like.

[nysteinbrenner]

This today from cnnsi.com:


A World Series that went seven games undoubtedly will bring some much needed money to a franchise that lost at least $48 million during its first three seasons.

Ten of the top players agreed before the season began to defer large chunks of their salary to help the financially strapped franchise through the next two years.

An estimated $16 million in World Series revenue will certainly provide a boost, and season ticket sales that have declined each year since the 1998 expansion season probably will go up.

They sure aren't getting $16M from t-shirts and concessions! :)