Award Requirements

[ervinn]

In our league, The Daily Normal 1, a pitcher was just awarded the rookie of the year award after having pitched for 3 innings the whole season. C'mon, that's gotta be a no-brainer, eh Clay? :)


2001 AL Rookie Of The Year Goes To Einertson


New York - Darrell Einertson, New York's young hurler, earned the 2001 A League Rookie Of The Year award. He pitched in 1 games for his Rudy Gs and posted a 0.00 earned run average on the year. The 29 year old Einertson took the mound 1 times in 2001, averaging three innings per game. His 0.00 ERA and 1 strikeouts yielded a 1-0 record on the year.

Please adjust the minimum requirements for awards to something more reasonable.

Acknowledgement with a response is always appreciated.

Cheers,

ervinn

[takaplan]

Right now, the awards are a joke. Most active leagues are doing their own awards.

I think Clay is working on it...I know he is aware of the problem.

Tom

[redsox587]

Im in a Private League and I'm the Boston Red Sox, my pitcher Pedro Martinez had an unthinkable year:24-2,1.46 ERA,over 280 k's,under .200 OBA!HE DIDNT WIN THE CY YOUNG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Can u believe this......eric milton won it and he went 18-6 with an era of abot 2.75,this is an outrage.........give Pedro a break,what would it have taken for him to get the CY Young...a 30-0 Record??

[drew]

For ROY, I think the qualifications should be a minimum of 50 innings pitched and for hitters, which I don't usually see get the award, which is also a bug, it should be a minimum 3.1 plate appearances. I haven't seen a single ROY award that has gone to a person that meets these qualifications. As for who has better numbers, there should be some sort of formula. For pitchers, I have an idea. This is my simple formula:
(9.00-Pitcher's ERA)*50+(pitcher's wins*15 - pitcher's losses *15) Yes, I did win several math contests but my formula is not perfect. If you'll do it out, though, you'll see that Pedro beat Milton 707-492.5 . Any suggestions to make the formula better are welcome.

[Godard]

If you look at the choices to play the allstar game, those are pretty good.

So obviously Clay has a formula that works for that...

[ervinn]

A formula should be used to calculate the award recipients. Voting by GMs could be used but it is too difficult to track everyone properly in a league that is simmed at a ratio of 1:17 against real life.

The MVP award should be awarded to a position player, IMO. Read some history (http://www.baseballwords.com/data/mvp.htm) on the real MLB MVP awards. The ROY award given to positional players could can be based on the same formula used for the MVP award.

The MVP award and ROY for positional players should be awarded based in part on runs created by each individual player and in part on a positional player's defensive contribution (runs prevented). Jim Furtado's eXtrapolated Runs (http://www.baseballstuff.com/btf/scholars/furtado/articles/IntroducingXR.htm) formula has been ranked as the best (http://www.baseballstuff.com/fraser/articles/errors.html) way to calcute the runs created by each batter. Furtado's XRB 'Extrapolated Runs Basic' would be sufficient for our purposes.

XRB Extrapolated Runs Basic
= (.50 x 1B) + (.72 x 2B) + (1.04 x 3B) + (1.44 x HR) + (.34 x (TBB)) + (.18 x SB) + (-.32 x CS) + (-.096 x (AB - H))

It's such a simple formula that anyone with basic math skills can calculate and since Jim Furtado's eXtrapolated Runs formula is also the most popular method used to determine runs created I see no reason why Baseball Mogul can't adopt if for MVP and ROY awards.

Another importand element in calculating a player's performance includes a player's fielding prowess. A good fielder will get to the ball more often than an average fielder. The number of times a player touches the baseball is called Total Chances (TC) and gives an account of a player's range.

Baseball Mogul already provides a statistic we can use in evaluating players, the 'Range %' shows the difference between a player's range and the league average of other fielders at their position.

Range % = x
eg; +16%

Add that number (i.e.; 16) to the XRB:

x + XRB

Your result will provide a new total that accounts for both offense and defense.

Note: I find that the use of fielding percentage is inappropriate because of the varying standards for good fielding percentages at the different positions. To keep things simple, but still accurate I used the range % as a number.

Clay, or anyone, if you're interested, I can post my suggestions for the pitches awards as well. I also feel there should an award for best relief pitcher.

Edit added: A rookie should be a player with 120 or more total days on major league rosters for the season, as in MLB. He can then be considered for 'Rookie of the Year' and will lose his rookie status. Players that don't reach 120 days on major league rosters in a season retain their rookie status for next season. Clay, this would really add to the realism. Please implement this if others agree. If you do, while you're putting in the code, please allow for a number to be displayed beside rookies indicating number of days in the majors for the season, like the days rest required number you have for pitchers.

Cheers,

ervinn
Montreal Extinct
Daily Normal 1 League


Not everything that counts can be counted, and not everything that can be counted counts. - Albert Einstein

[dturkenk]

I think this is a great idea. I really like the idea of rewarding actual performance (unlike in real life). I think you might be overstating the importance of defense by incorporating the range factor without correction. I haven't tried running any numbers, especially since XRA is new to me, but I see McGwire's 1998 season was only about 170 runs. That was one of the best offensive seasons in memory (until Bonds' this year) and a +16% range factor that you use in your example (which is good, but not unreachable) is almost 10% of that.

I also like the idea of actually incorportaing the minimum limits for the ROY voting, although I'm not sure it's necessary to put the numbers on the lineup/pitching screens. I would put them on the scouting cards, but that's a minor point.

[ervinn]

dturkenk, I'm glad you agree with my opinion on using math to reward actual performance. I don't agree that defense is being overstated though. I could go into more complicated formulas very easily, however, for simplicity the 'Range%' value is adequate. If Clay wants to get a little more complex and therefore more accurate I will be happy to assist him.

If you do any amount of research, you'll find that defense is very important in winning and can't easily be overstated anyway. The assumption that putting the most productive hitters in your lineup will win you the most games is incorrect. Again, math can show what happens in real life. The trick is to find when to play the slick fielder over the heavy hitter, or what combination of both is the better choice. Therefore, I don't believe that 'Range%' in an incorrect method.

A player's defensive contribution is worth at least 10% of his value to a team, if not even 50% since they play on both sides equally. This does not apply to DHs, who should not be given equal consideration for MVP with positional players because they don't play defensive - because they are usually a liability in the field.

Another thing you could do is calculate the Offensive% of a player - the difference between a player's XRB and the league average of other batters. Add that to a player's Range% to get is worth to the team.

A more complex formula for calculating when to play the slick fielder over the heavy hitter can be presented, but for our purposes I feel that is sufficiently accurate and simple.


Cheers,

ervinn
Montreal Extinct
Daily Normal 1 League