Politics (was "Permission Request")

[williethebasset]

Originally posted by kingmob
joe is a collectivist

Well, if you are such an indiviualist, I hope you never drive on public roads, breathe clean air, and drink public water. Otherwise you would be a collectivist.:p

[kingmob]

Originally posted by williethebasset
Well, if you are such an indiviualist, I hope you never drive on public roads, breathe clean air, and drink public water. Otherwise you would be a collectivist.:p

ok i'll run out and join the borg tomorrow.....i'm too busy today listening to truth radio....check it out
www.rbnlive.com u can listen on winamp...they have a feed for dialup as well as broadband

[williethebasset]

Originally posted by kingmob
ok i'll run out and join the borg tomorrow.....i'm too busy today listening to truth radio....check it out
www.rbnlive.com u can listen on winamp...they have a feed for dialup as well as broadband

I'm listening now.

[kingmob]

Originally posted by williethebasset
I'm listening now.

cool ...im listening to it on radio free austin our local pirate radio
www.radiofreeaustin.com

[williethebasset]

Originally posted by kingmob
cool ...im listening to it on radio free austin our local pirate radio
www.radiofreeaustin.com

Pirate radio? Thats going to get the FCC angry.

[williethebasset]

If you like debates you should go on the General Forum on Nationstates.

[kingmob]

jack blood is on at 2pm central.....he used to be on radio in providence but moved to austin to join our growing number of freedom loving patriots here in gods country

[williethebasset]

Originally posted by kingmob
jack blood is on at 2pm central.....he used to be on radio in providence but moved to austin to join our growing number of freedom loving patriots here in gods country

I wouldnt call Texas gods country. Its too hot there.:p :D

[kingmob]

Originally posted by williethebasset
Pirate radio? Thats going to get the FCC angry.

i dare them too try....within 2 hours we would muster up a crowd of 500+ to go protest them and back them off

[williethebasset]

Then you will be arrested on false charges.

[kingmob]

Originally posted by williethebasset
I wouldnt call Texas gods country. Its too hot there.:p :D

no its a haven of freedom loving activist people.....its hot but thats ok

[williethebasset]

Originally posted by kingmob
no its a haven of freedom loving activist people.....its hot but thats ok

And there arent any woods to hide in.

[kingmob]

Originally posted by williethebasset
Then you will be arrested on false charges.

naw ...they wont even try.....theres no law that says you cant setup a micro fm station as long as it doesnt bleed into another station or broadcast over state lines

[williethebasset]

You are supposed to have a license to broadcast.

[kingmob]

Originally posted by williethebasset
You are supposed to have a license to broadcast.

no you dont

[williethebasset]

Hmm
I was under the impression that it was required.

[kingmob]

Originally posted by williethebasset
And there arent any woods to hide in.

you havent been to central texas.....we have the hill country here......same real estate that the texans fough santa anna in....we'll be justttttt fine....whos hiding?....im not gonna flee like some little field mouse

[kingmob]

Originally posted by williethebasset
Hmm
I was under the impression that it was required.

sure you are why would the media monopoly tell you that you can compete with them ....they wouldnt ....and they would spread propaganda about how al-cia-da runs pirate radios...lol

[williethebasset]

Originally posted by kingmob
you havent been to central texas.....we have the hill country here......same real estate that the texans fough santa anna in....we'll be justttttt fine....whos hiding?....im not gonna flee like some little field mouse

I was under the impression texas was all plains. If you dont hide you'll die or be enslaved.

[williethebasset]

On a lighter note, have you ever watched Reno 911! or Crossballs?

[kingmob]

Originally posted by williethebasset
I was under the impression texas was all plains. If you dont hide you'll die or be enslaved.

naw central texas is beuatiful<sp>....i'd rather die than be a slave......my family was once enslaved by the nazis ....we moved here to get away from them....sux our govt. harbored the head of the nazi snake after ww2......operation paperclip....check it out

[kingmob]

Originally posted by williethebasset
On a lighter note, have you ever watched Reno 911! or Crossballs?

naw i dont watch hardly any tv....im trying to divest myself from the matrix....i'm basicaly unplugged

[kingmob]

watch this though... its alex jones on c-span ranting about the nwo.....whooooohooo alex is a bulldog who did a great job in 30 seconds.....alex is a genuine person ive met him and had a beer with him here in austin....he's a good guy
alex on c-span (http://www.prisonplanet.tv/articles/september2004/030904alexoncspan.htm)

[williethebasset]

Originally posted by kingmob
naw i dont watch hardly any tv....im trying to divest myself from the matrix....i'm basicaly unplugged

They are Comedy. They are very very funny.

[kingmob]

Originally posted by williethebasset
They are Comedy. They are very very funny.

Ok ill take your word for it

[williethebasset]

Just download them. They are already paid for with the cable bill.

[kingmob]

Originally posted by williethebasset
Just download them. They are already paid for with the cable bill.

download what? those shows? naww i dont watch that ****

[williethebasset]

What do you watch for humor? Hannity and Colmes?

[kingmob]

Originally posted by williethebasset
What do you watch for humor? Hannity and Colmes?

i watch access tv...a ballgame here and there ....movies.
hannity and colmes make me wanna rip my eyeballs out.....i watch canadian news i wish i got al-jazeera

[williethebasset]

Al Jazeera is nothing more than islamic fundamentalist propaganda.

[kingmob]

Originally posted by williethebasset
Al Jazeera is nothing more than islamic fundamentalist propaganda.

whats the difference american media is all neo-con propaganda and war mongering!

[williethebasset]

Touche.

[kingmob]

heres an interesting article chronicling project censored's top 25 censored stories of the year.....its very telling
top 25 censored news stories (http://www.rense.com/general57/news.htm)

i updated my sig.....check em out

[williethebasset]

I am become Death, shatterer of worlds.
--J. Robert Oppenheimer upon witnessing the explosion of the first atomic bomb

Politics is supposed to be the second-oldest profession. I have come to realize that it bears a very close resemblance to the first.
--Ronald Reagan

It may not always be easy, convenient, or politically correct to stand for truth and right, but it is the right thing to do. Always.
--M. Russell Ballard

1. So, the nuclear bomb was made by the NWO, or was it made to save American lives in WWII. It saved by my guesses 400,000 americans, if not more.

2. What is the oldest profession?

3. 100% agreement.

[kingmob]

Originally posted by williethebasset
I am become Death, shatterer of worlds.
--J. Robert Oppenheimer upon witnessing the explosion of the first atomic bomb

Politics is supposed to be the second-oldest profession. I have come to realize that it bears a very close resemblance to the first.
--Ronald Reagan

It may not always be easy, convenient, or politically correct to stand for truth and right, but it is the right thing to do. Always.
--M. Russell Ballard

1. So, the nuclear bomb was made by the NWO, or was it made to save American lives in WWII. It saved by my guesses 400,000 americans, if not more.

2. What is the oldest profession?

3. 100% agreement.


1. yeah the nuclear bomb has thought up at a meeting at the bohemian grove in 1940ish
2.whore'in
3.exactly....once you see the big picture of the globalist goal of world govt. you realize you have no choice but fight it....or live like a coward

[williethebasset]

Originally posted by kingmob
1. yeah the nuclear bomb has thought up at a meeting at the bohemian grove in 1940ish
2.whore'in
3.exactly....once you see the big picture of the globalist goal of world govt. you realize you have no choice but fight it....or live like a coward

1. The nuclear bomb was developed throughout the 1930's. Hitler cancelled the project because he thought the war would be over before if would be needed. He also would have most likley won the war had he not expelled or killed the Jews which made up most scientists in Germany at the time.

2. D'Oh. I knew that.

3. I'll stay alive with the second option.

[kingmob]

wow just looking back into posts i made in may of 2004 ....where i said we would have $3 a gallon gas.......unfortunately i was right...

i love my country thats why i speak like i do.....my family emigrated here in 1949 because of the nazis.....and lo and behold in 2004 we've become the nazis....with secret police...patriot acts 1 and 2 and 3 down the pike......we now have a 100 yrs. war against fake terrorists called al-CIAda....they say everyday to give up your rights for protection against terrorism....so just wave your plastic made in china amerikan flag and pay $3 a gallon for gas ....and keep telling yourself the govt. is doing the right thing.....i dont believe im wasting my voice ...i just dont want to see my country dragged into the abyss of ****.....its not a future i would want for my kids and grandkids.....thats all....i know its a game forum.....but i mean do y'all truly believe that everything is hunky dorry and we should believe in the govt. when its proven to be treasonous?

i said this in may of 2004

[robinhoodnik]

No I don't believe everything's hunky dory. I think that everything is very screwed up. As long as we have a two party system most people are gonna go one way or the other. We need a moderate party in this country. If we had that, then we wouldn't have to accept a tradoff of one mans good qualities versus his bad qualities. Right now most people vote for who they like, not for who will be a good leader or they go for the person they feel is the lesser of two evils. The Green party and all of the other "fringe" groups can do nothing because they are too single minded in their agendas to ever make a difference.
Go out and form a viable third party King, you'd have my support if you would start a regular joe party.

[kingmob]

govt. as we know it will soon end.....i think enough people see the incredible cronyism and corporate fraud going on......we need to start killing off huge swaths of beauracracies......starting with the federal reserve.....the banksters are the biggest enablers of huge out of control govt. there is

[tigeraholic]

wow just looking back into posts i made in may of 2004 ....where i said we would have $3 a gallon gas.......unfortunately i was right...


Wow oh wise one..... Did not see that coming.

[kingmob]

whats funny was all the people who told me that i was crazy and that gas would never be $3 a gallon....or that there would never be military rule in an american city....

Grasshoppa you may leave the temple when you snatch the pebble from my hand-Kingmob

[Jeff Olsen]

wow just looking back into posts i made in may of 2004 ....where i said we would have $3 a gallon gas.......unfortunately i was right...
we now have a 100 yrs. war against fake terrorists called al-CIAda....they say everyday to give up your rights for protection against terrorism....so just wave your plastic made in china amerikan flag and pay $3 a gallon for gas ....Funny, I don't see anything about a "would" in there. Just "now", as in "May of 2004".

It is stupid for people to say that there would never be military rule in an american city, assuming they said this in the first place.

[robinhoodnik]

And now that it's plateau has reached around $3.44 in the northeast (notice that that was when the screaming got loudest (what the market would bear). then it magically dropped) it's going to drop back to around $3.00 per gallon maybe as much as ten cents lower. In another eight or nine months (when the tourist trade picks up again here) we'll be paying $3.50-$3.60 per gallon after the winter increases. No financial wizardry there. All but the dumbest knew that that was coming eventually. Tell me the exact date when an affordable alternative to gasoline/diesel comes on the market if you want to impress me.

[Jeff Olsen]

I found what king was referring to:
you will be ....with the massive influx of new war money the federal reserve has created ....we will be faced with massive inflation....inflation is the hidden tax we all pay...Okay, he was right about the price but wrong on the cause. It also looks like spin to avoid admitting he was wrong with the "now", which is typical kingmob behavior.

I didn't see anyone saying he was "crazy and that gas would never be $3 a gallon" though.

[robinhoodnik]

I know that the bigger U.S. companies have been drooling over the Euro pump prices for years. It's not that oil costs them that much more, it's tax over there. I'm guessing here but were I an exec. at exxon / mobil I'd be thinking "Now how long will it take for us to work the prices up to that level?" and "I know that people will be mad as hel l but if I raise my prices and my card holders still pay it then my competitors will also raise theirs." "If the govt. raises gas taxes we'll maybe have to hold the price for a while but then again since we're the only outlets we can control and manipulate the market at will." " Within a few years, maybe a decade of conditioning, the public will realize (though not like it) that they will have to pay whatever I and the other bigger companies decide to set the market value at."
Sounds kinda like what caused the Standard Oil breakup but the new era execs. don't give a dam about anything but their own personal bottom line. If they get fired, so what? They've all set themselves up with huge retirement packages in case of firings (see Enron). It is more a business ethics (talk about two words that combined can't make sense) issue than it is a governmental problem. Though the govt. should be a lot more aggressive and creative with the prosecution of "white collar crime". Theft is theft no matter what your income. The more we all see it going unpunished day in and day out, the greater the resentment grows between the classes.

[Jeff Olsen]

Tell me the exact date when an affordable alternative to gasoline/diesel comes on the market if you want to impress me.Heck, if he has said gas would be $6 (http://www.snopes.com/photos/katrina/gaspump.asp)...

[robinhoodnik]

It likely will get to that level. In an all out capitalist society like what ours has become, there is no incentive left for companies to do the right thing. I personally believe that the "Greatest Generation" bagat the greediest and worst generation ever. I'd give you my logic on this theory here but I'm afraid of sounding like king. :D jk king

[kingmob]

I found what king was referring to: Okay, he was right about the price but wrong on the cause. It also looks like spin to avoid admitting he was wrong with the "now", which is typical kingmob behavior.

I didn't see anyone saying he was "crazy and that gas would never be $3 a gallon" though.

it is inflation.....our money is becoming worthless....fiat money always becomes worthless.....inflation is cumulative every year.....so 10 yrs. at 3% inflation = 30% inflation......how much is milk? how much is a car? house?...

there is no peak oil ....there are no shortages......

[Jeff Olsen]

it is inflationNo, it's three refineries that were temporarily knocked out of commission by Katrina. Everything would have gone up correspondingly if it were simply inflation.
there are no shortagesNo? Fact is, within the last month, the price of gas has shot up to inflation-adjusted Embargo levels. The price then was artificially increased because our supplies from OPEC drastically reduced, just as the price of gasoline supplies were artificially increased last month because of Katrina. I don't know about Austin but some local stations decided to close instead of charging what the owners felt extreme sums, citing their suppliers artificially increasing prices as being too much to pass on to their customers. There is a shortage in the US, just like the ones we had in the '70s, but for a very different reason.

[kingmob]

besides it isnt me saying how the global govt. wants to enslave us and impose a global tax......its these guys
The world in the palm of their hands: Bilderberg 2005 (http://www.onlinejournal.com/Special_Reports/052405Estulin/052405estulin.html)

[robinhoodnik]

It's price gouging, and all out greed on the part of the oil companies. The price here jumped 40 to 60 cents on the first evening and in some cases at the end of the increases it was up over a dollar. The gas in the ground at the local stations and even at all of the terminals did not cost what was being charged at the pump. I understand the futures market on oil but there is just no justification for that kind of price jump.

[kingmob]

It's price gouging, and all out greed on the part of the oil companies. The price here jumped 40 to 60 cents on the first evening and in some cases at the end of the increases it was up over a dollar. The gas in the ground at the local stations and even at all of the terminals did not cost what was being charged at the pump. I understand the futures market on oil but there is just no justification for that kind of price jump.

exactly its all smoke and mirrors......and total BS .....they are gonna rape and pillage america......NO was the first salvo

[Jeff Olsen]

besides it isnt me saying how the global govt. wants to enslave us and impose a global tax......its these guys
The world in the palm of their hands: Bilderberg 2005 (http://www.onlinejournal.com/Special_Reports/052405Estulin/052405estulin.html)There you go trying to change the subject again.

[Jeff Olsen]

exactly its all smoke and mirrors......and total BS .....they are gonna rape and pillage america......NO was the first salvoWhatever. We have evidence and you don't. :p

[Jeff Olsen]

It's price gouging, and all out greed on the part of the oil companies. Witness the $5.87 at the BP in Georgia, linked in the previous page.

[kingmob]

There you go trying to change the subject again.

Jim Tucker said as much in his Bilderberg report in the American Free Press when he wrote, "There was some informal discussion of timing for a vote in the United Nations on establishing a direct global tax by imposing a 10-cents-a-barrel levy on oil at the well-head. This is important to the Bilderberg goal of establishing the UN as a formal world government. Such a direct tax on individuals is symbolically important. Bilderberg's global tax proposal has been pending before the UN for three years but the issue has been blacked out by the Bilderberg-controlled U.S. media."

its relevant ....UN oil tax.....isnt that relevant?

[robinhoodnik]

Witness the $5.87 at the BP in Georgia, linked in the previous page.
Yep, I saw it live on t.v a few times too. That prompted the governor to put a cap on prices and start charging people with gouging.

[kingmob]

Witness the $5.87 at the BP in Georgia, linked in the previous page.

A British Bilderberger noted that oil at $120 a barrel will greatly benefit Britain and the US, but that Russia and China would be the biggest winners. An expert in International relations and policy studies noted that for the Chinese this would be a real bonanza. The Chinese import energy not for domestic consumption, but rather to fuel its growing cheap exports, a cost that would duly be passed on to foreign buyers. A European banker pointed out that Russia could effectively devalue the dollar by re-denominating its energy trade with Europe from dollars into euros, forcing Europe's central banks to rebalance their foreign exchange reserves in favour of the euro. Jean-Claude Trichet, governor of the European Central Bank was present during the debate.

the world commisars are talking about $120 a barrell....i think this is relevent

[Jeff Olsen]

its relevant ....UN oil tax.....isnt that relevant?

the world commisars are talking about $120 a barrell....i think this is releventAnd we are talking about an infrastructure that was damaged by a hurricane. Here, in the US, at the present time. A world tax proposal that has been stagnant for 3 years has no bearing.

[kingmob]

USA Criminals

A US law, called the Logan Act, states explicitly that it is against the law for federal officials to attend secret meetings with private citizens to develop public policies. Although Bilderberg 2005 was missing one of its luminaries, US State Department official John Bolton who was testifying before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, the American government was well represented in Rottach-Egern by Alan Hubbard, assistant to the president for economic policy and director of the National Economic Council; William Luti, deputy under secretary of defence; James Wolfensohn, outgoing president of the World Bank and Paul Wolfowitz, deputy secretary of state, an ideologue of the Iraq war and incoming president of the World Bank. By attending Bilderberg 2005 meeting, these people are breaking federal laws of the United States.

the american contingent broke the law by attending this secret policy wonk meeting

[Jeff Olsen]

*yawn*

Let us know when you're ready to go back to the current cost of gasoline, huh?

[kingmob]

then there is this......this is why i think the covert ops in NO with mercenery killers and foreign troops are there

http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/may2005/280505targetingpatriots.htm

This year Estulin dropped a bombshell that shocked even us.

According to Estulin's sources, Bilderberg are very angry at the alternative truth movement and its opposition and exposure of Bilderberg's agenda. More specifically, the Christian Patriot movement in America was highlighted as a nuisance that will have to be dealt with.

Bilderberg members postulated the necessity of wiping out American patriots who oppose the New World Order.

Some Bilderberg members expressed a wish to essentially invade the US with UN peacekeeping troops and confront Patriots. Bilderberg can't use the US military to carry out their dirty work because they are worried it would backfire as US troops would refuse to fire on their own citizens.

Many in the Christian Patriot movement have been saying that this would take place for a long time and have been ridiculed for doing so. However, this information lends credibility to an age-old warning handed down the generations, that one day the blue helmeted forces of world government would engage patriotic Americans sworn on defending their country.

The fact that we are causing Bilderberg so much annoyance in the first place should bring joy to us all! It only emphasises the fact that we are having a significant effect and should only redouble our efforts.

.........the battle for the republic is begun.....which side will you be on?

[kingmob]

And we are talking about an infrastructure that was damaged by a hurricane. Here, in the US, at the present time. A world tax proposal that has been stagnant for 3 years has no bearing.

that is the propaganda

[Jeff Olsen]

On Aug. 29, Hurricane Katrina caused significant direct damage to offshore rigs, refineries, pipelines, and ports in the Gulf of Mexico, with widescale electricity outages and flooding exacerbating the already devastated infrastructure, compounded by the evacuation of thousands of employees.

[kingmob]

yes its all an act of god and just a horrible coincidence.......we need armed thugs roaming the streets....and we should follow federal orders......turn in our guns and shut the helll up and let fema run our lives......yes.....i have now seen the light.....ty jeff

[Jeff Olsen]

Yeah, right. :rolleyes:

Look, the hurricane affected eight refineries in southeastern Louisiana, these nornally would process a total of 2,042,703 barrels per day. The three in the New Orleans area that I suspect were shut down are Valero St. Charles in Norco, Shell Chem in Saint Rose, and Motiva Enterprises in Norco. That's over half a million barrels per day not being processed. Add in the ExxonMobil refinery in Baton Rouge that was also shut down and it's over a million.

The hurricane also hit the biggest oil import terminal in the US (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louisiana_Offshore_Oil_Port) and its onshore storage facilities. The offshore wells in the Gulf that are operational are having trouble getting their tankers unloaded.

[robinhoodnik]

Don't you think that an all powerful group like the bilderbergers would pretty much know who was a spy? They would be feeding this guy anything they wanted to and he'd buy it. What next? Maybe when the Death Star comes on line on the next pass around the moon they'll blast Mars as a show of power. I find your lack of faith disturbing King! :rolleyes:

[Jeff Olsen]

They would be feeding this guy anything they wanted to and he'd buy it.Sound like anyone you know? :D

[robinhoodnik]

Sound like anyone you know? :D
Now who could you be referring to???? ;)

[kingmob]

Don't you think that an all powerful group like the bilderbergers would pretty much know who was a spy? They would be feeding this guy anything they wanted to and he'd buy it. What next? Maybe when the Death Star comes on line on the next pass around the moon they'll blast Mars as a show of power. I find your lack of faith disturbing King! :rolleyes:

his sources are secret service types and guys like that who are patriots .....there is a huge contingent of whistle blowers dropping dimes all over the place......the MSM are attendees too and are covering up for there globalist buddies......have you ever heard of Sibel Edmunds?

[kingmob]

Now who could you be referring to???? ;)

let me ask you 2 a ? do you think that there is a secret brotherhood out to rule the world? and do you think they are moving to a NWO with no borders, one currency, and one world religion?.....and please state your reasons for why you think like ya do.....
peace

[Jeff Olsen]

I've already given you my reason. Give me concrete evidence and I'll believe anything you say. 'Tis a pity you can't do that.

[kingmob]

evidence of what? and what in your little pinhead mind do you consider concrete evidence.....because you always say that.....but i dont really know what constitutes concrete evidence in your mind

[kingmob]

sides all i asked was your opinion.....you have one right?

[Jeff Olsen]

evidence of what?Anything and everything you say on this board.
but i dont really know what constitutes concrete evidence in your mindLegal documents, peer-reviewed reports, legitimate news (not necessarily MSM), anything other than your typical blogs and opinion pieces.

And my opinion is that you're an anti-government crackpot until proven otherwise. I thought you knew that.

[tigeraholic]

sides all i asked was your opinion.....you have one right?

You need a psychiatric evaluation

[kingmob]

ok i get it.....see it doesnt really matter what i say .....your preconceived notions will trump anything i say......you dont understand me in the least....
i love my country enough to point out the satanic criminals running it.....yes your right i am anti-corrupt govt........i am not anti-govt. as long as the govt. is doing what it is supposed too.....and as long as things are going on like they are i will scream from the rooftop .......

I do not agree with what you have to say, but I'll defend to the death your right to say it.
Voltaire

It is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong.
Voltaire

[kingmob]

You need a psychiatric evaluation

you need a kick in the nutz

[Jeff Olsen]

ok i get it.....see it doesnt really matter what i sayAs long as you keep spouting blogs and opinion pieces, he|| no.

[kingmob]

see whats funny is that i am not the one saying it.....the global elites are the ones saying it

"The world can therefore seize the opportunity [Persian Gulf crisis] to fulfill the long-held promise of a New World Order where diverse nations are drawn together in common cause to achieve the universal aspirations of mankind."
George Herbert Walker Bush

"Today, America would be outraged if U.N. troops entered Los Angeles to restore order [referring to the 1991 LA Riot]. Tomorrow they will be grateful! This is especially true if they were told that there were an outside threat from beyond [i.e., an "extraterrestrial" invasion], whether real or *promulgated* [emphasis by original compiler], that threatened our very existence. It is then that all peoples of the world will plead to deliver them from this evil. The one thing every man fears is the unknown. When presented with this *scenario*, individual rights will be willingly relinquished for the guarantee of their well-being granted to them by the World Government."
Henry Kissinger speaking at Evian, France, May 21, 1992
Bilderburgers meeting.
Unbeknownst to Kissinger,
his speech was taped by a Swiss delegate to the meeting.

"NAFTA is a major stepping stone to the New World Order."

Henry Kissinger,
when campaigning for the passage of NAFTA


"We are beginning to see practical support. And this is a very significant sign of the movement towards a new era, a new age.... We see both in our country and elsewhere... ghosts of the old thinking.... When we rid ourselves of their presence, we will be better able to move toward a new world order...relying on the relevent mechanisms of the United Nations."
Soviet President Mikhail Gorbachev,
at the Middle East Peace Talks in Madrid (1991)


"We have a much bigger objective. We've got to look at the long run here. This is an example - the situation between the United Nations and Iraq - where the United Nations is deliberately intruding into the sovereignty of a sovereign nation.... Now this is a marvelous precedent (to be used in) all countries of the world...."
Stansfield Turner,
CFR member and former CIA director,
when asked about Iraq on CNN


"We are grateful to The Washington Post, The New York Times, Time Magazine and other great publications whose directors have attended our meetings and respected their promises of discretion for almost forty years. It would have been impossible for us to develop our plan for the world if we had been subject to the bright lights of publicity during those years. But, the work is now much more sophisticated and prepared to march towards a world government. The supranational sovereignty of an intellectual elite and world bankers is surely preferable to the national autodetermination practiced in past centuries."

David Rockefeller,
( founder of the Trilateral Commission),
in an address to a meeting of The Trilateral Commission,
in June, 1991

[robinhoodnik]

let me ask you 2 a ? do you think that there is a secret brotherhood out to rule the world? and do you think they are moving to a NWO with no borders, one currency, and one world religion?.....and please state your reasons for why you think like ya do.....
peace
(1) I don't know about the brotherhood. Seems unlikely that so many power mad individuals could get along long enough to pull it off. (2) I think that there is a move towards "one world government" and I think that it's mostly supported by dictators. (3) I think that it would be a very bad and short lived experiment were it ever implemented. Those with a higher standard of living (the upper middle class of U.S.A. and Europe/ Russia/Australia) would rebel at having their standard dropped to help "those less fortunate".

[robinhoodnik]

you need a kick in the nutz
lmao! :D another witty reparte' King. :D

[kingmob]

(1) I don't know about the brotherhood. Seems unlikely that so many power mad individuals could get along long enough to pull it off. (2) I think that there is a move towards "one world government" and I think that it's mostly supported by dictators. (3) I think that it would be a very bad and short lived experiment were it ever implemented. Those with a higher standard of living (the upper middle class of U.S.A. and Europe/ Russia/Australia) would rebel at having their standard dropped to help "those less fortunate".

the usa has to dragged down to 2nd or 3rd world status .......which is happening .......we will rebel against this.....we already are......there millions out there that think like i do.....and will fight to the death against these globalist slave masters

[robinhoodnik]

It is obviously a good idea. It will however, due to human nature never work. The "leaders" would eventually succumb to the axiom "absolute power corrupts absolutely" and then they'd be dismembered by angry mobs. It will never work for an extended period and I hope that it never comes to a test of the theory.

[Jeff Olsen]

see whats funny is that i am not the one saying it.....the global elites are the ones saying itQuotes taken out of context...how nice. Also a tactic I'm all too familiar with. The last guy who pulled a stunt like that on me had taken them all from conspiracy theorist websites and turned out that over half were either inaccurate or, worse, never existed in the first place. What will I find when I investigate these, hmmm?

[kingmob]

It is obviously a good idea. It will however, due to human nature never work. The "leaders" would eventually succumb to the axiom "absolute power corrupts absolutely" and then they'd be dismembered by angry mobs. It will never work for an extended period and I hope that it never comes to a test of the theory.

it already has....the EU is a done deal......and the FTAA(free trade area of the americas) is coming down the pike soon.....unless we stop it

[kingmob]

Quotes taken out of context...how nice. Also a tactic I'm all too familiar with. The last guy who pulled a stunt like that on me had taken them all from conspiracy theorist websites and turned out that over half were either inaccurate or, worse, never existed in the first place. What will I find when I investigate these, hmmm?

please do......i always say dont believe me.....but go investigate it yourself and come to your own conclusion

[kingmob]

heres a bbc report about the bilderberg .....in the 1950's they planned the EU and the one europe currency

bbc radio 4 .....is bbc a concrete source? (http://www.propagandamatrix.com/bbc_radio_4_bilderberg.mp3)

[Jeff Olsen]

"The world can therefore seize the opportunity [Persian Gulf crisis] to fulfill the long-held promise of a New World Order where diverse nations are drawn together in common cause to achieve the universal aspirations of mankind."
George Herbert Walker Bush Bush the Elder was referring to the recent demise of the Soviet Union when he talked about "a New World Order".

[Jeff Olsen]

bbc radio 4 .....is bbc a concrete source? (http://www.propagandamatrix.com/bbc_radio_4_bilderberg.mp3)Some of it isn't.

[Jeff Olsen]

"NAFTA is a major stepping stone to the New World Order."

Henry Kissinger,
when campaigning for the passage of NAFTA"[NAFTA] will represent the most creative step toward a new world order taken by any group of countries since the end of the Cold War." - Henry Kissinger, Los Angeles Times, 18 July 1993

Looks like he's also referring to the collapse of the Soviet Union.

[Jeff Olsen]

"We are beginning to see practical support. And this is a very significant sign of the movement towards a new era, a new age.... We see both in our country and elsewhere... ghosts of the old thinking.... When we rid ourselves of their presence, we will be better able to move toward a new world order...relying on the relevent mechanisms of the United Nations."
Soviet President Mikhail Gorbachev,
at the Middle East Peace Talks in Madrid (1991) What's this? The collapse of the Soviet Union again?

[Jeff Olsen]

Seems to me that all those usages of "new world order (http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=new%20world%20order)" doesn't mean what king thinks it means.

[kingmob]

Bush the Elder was referring to the recent demise of the Soviet Union when he talked about "a New World Order".

who do you think funded the bolsheviks? who supported mao.....do you know?....i know.

[kingmob]

Some of it isn't.

lol....so what the helll is a concrete source?

[kingmob]

"[NAFTA] will represent the most creative step toward a new world order taken by any group of countries since the end of the Cold War." - Henry Kissinger, Los Angeles Times, 18 July 1993

Looks like he's also referring to the collapse of the Soviet Union.

the same group of scumbags supported and financed the bolsheviks....the bolsheviks werent even russian

[kingmob]

the ftaa will bring about the EU system to north ,central and south america....
do you think its a good idea to have the americas be one country? with one currency.....this is happening right now....it is being planned and carried out

[Jeff Olsen]

lol....so what the helll is a concrete source?Parts of the BBC are tabloidal but I'm not sure which. I'd have to ask someone in the UK.

Saying it's from one of their networks is like saying something came from NBC, there's no way for me to know if the program was serious news or fluff until I ask.

[Jeff Olsen]

the same group of scumbags supported and financed the bolsheviks....the bolsheviks werent even russianThe Bolshevic Party ceased to exist in 1952, two years before the first Bilderberg meeting. They were known as The Communist Party of the Soviet Union at the time.

[kingmob]

The Bolshevicks ceased to exist in 1952, two years before the first Bilderberg meeting.

because stalin purged them

[Jeff Olsen]

because stalin purged themCare to explain how the Bilderberg group managed to fund something that didn't exist?

[kingmob]

the bolsheviks were funded by elite bankers on wall street....jacob schiff, warburgs, koen and loeb and others......they funded hitler too....i wont even bother to show you any links because you wouldnt believe it anyway.....so go look for yourself