boomboom...

[cujoe169]

i really want until next year to get bbm2k6, i know 2k5 is probably a lot better than 2k4, but i just don't see the point to buy every single version of the game... which is why i need u to make the rosters 2k4 compatible once in a while...

[boomboom]

Originally posted by cujoe169
i just don't see the point to buy every single version of the game...

I have 3 points why I buy each version that comes out:

#1- it is only $20

#2 I want to support the creators of Baseball Mogul...so that there will be another version next year.

#3 it is only $20, yes the 3rd point is the same as the 1st. $20 isnt much money.



Originally posted by cujoe169
i need u to make the rosters 2k4 compatible once in a while...

I have already done this, but I probably wont want to do this again because if you want the new rosters then you should buy the new version like the rest of us. I really dont think you need me to make rosters for you because you dont want to buy 2k5.

Also, if you dont want to buy a new version because you think it is pointless, try BBMO, it is going to have new rosters soon and they will be upgrading, There are a few openings in IL30!

For one team, it is only $4.95 per month, and you get to play one of the best online games ever.

[boomboom]

oh yes, I have already used the 2004 sfbennett1 roster but I believe you have already downlaoded it, here is the link.

http://forum.sportsmogul.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=54840

[TwinswillWin]

just cause a guy has a great average doesn't mean they can take the ball out of the park.

[cujoe169]

when he just came over, SI was raving about his uppercut swing, they predicted him to be 30-30 in a couple of seasons, i can see 20-50, but he hasn't hit for power like they thought

[mooseman74]

Yeah...and Hideki Irabu was supposed to throw over 100mph regularly! You can't go by what they predict coming from Japan...there's a significant drop-off in certain areas....look at Hideki Matsui....55 homers to 16! I'll bet Ichiro will hit 20 someday...20 & 50 is a good bet....H. Matsui will reach 30 sometime I bet.

[boomboom]

Originally posted by cujoe169
when he just came over, SI was raving about his uppercut swing, they predicted him to be 30-30 in a couple of seasons, i can see 20-50, but he hasn't hit for power like they thought

just watch Ichiro in batting practice, I seriously think he has the most power on Seattle....just in games he doesnt use it.

[cujoe169]

he does have a violent uppercut swing, and when he does hit homers, they go a long ways, matsui... just couldn't handle the 4 seamer, he can now... irabu... was fat and discovered mcdonalds before he found his niche... Ichiro maybe like carlos beltran will suddenly click and start hittin both ways

[TwinswillWin]

I think another factor is that in Japan they are more used to the pitching. They come to America and have to re-learn pitching.

[TwinswillWin]

and when you see him in games he does kind of a running swing if he waited back maybe just maybe...

[egswanso]

bp re-did their translations of japanese league stats to major league stats in 2004; the fact is ichiro doesnt have much power and never will (at 30, i doubt he'll ever hit 13 homers again)... that said, he IS a great ballplayer, esp. once you factor in his defense and park effect.

as for he translations, bp predicted a SLG of .484, he actually had .488; Hideki Matsui was projected at .495, hit only .466 (which means he should hit some more homers, but isn't the slugger he was sold to be... maybe 20-25 upside), this year's import, Kaz Matsui projects to .300/.348/.486, which would make him a respectable ss, but no second coming of ARod/Jeter/Nomar

[cujoe169]

i agree with you about matsui, and him only projecting to peak out to 30 hr's, but ichiro will not only top 13 hr's, he'll prolly hit about 20... as for matsui, he' an uppertier ss, better than jeter... i really don't understand why everybody raves about him, he hits 300 but barely above it, he has very little power... 15 a year on average, and not rbi's maybe 65-70... he has lost his speed on the bases, and his glove is getting worse year after year, and are we forgetting, this is the man who went 0-32 this year, and fell into another funk after supposedly breaking out with 3 hrs?

[egswanso]

Originally posted by cujoe169
i agree with you about matsui, and him only projecting to peak out to 30 hr's, but ichiro will not only top 13 hr's, he'll prolly hit about 20... as for matsui, he' an uppertier ss, better than jeter... i really don't understand why everybody raves about him, he hits 300 but barely above it, he has very little power... 15 a year on average, and not rbi's maybe 65-70... he has lost his speed on the bases, and his glove is getting worse year after year, and are we forgetting, this is the man who went 0-32 this year, and fell into another funk after supposedly breaking out with 3 hrs?
i think you grossly overestimate ichiro's power... nonetheless, i'd still want him on my team for his defense and general hitting ability.

kaz matsui is no-where close to being as good as jeter offensively (at least prior to this year)... defensively, of course, he's far superior since jeter is so terrible in the field, but jeter has been a great offensive threat, albeit no a-rod. it's telling that the player ranked most similar to him at baseball ref. is jackie robinson. that's pretty good company.

dont get me wrong though. i'd love to see him collapse and the yankees go down into the flames of **** from whenst they belong.

[cujoe169]

i don't know, i think what he brings to the ballclub is his leadership more than his bat, i mean his best season was what... 317, with 17 hrs, and about 80 rbis, and 30 steals

that's not a true fantasy threat, think about the better ss, arod nomar renteria young and as of right now even crosby gonzalez (of florida) and everett... they all put up better numbers, and i still think kaz will become a 300/20/80/30 guy... that's not bad for coming from japanese pitching... (85 mph fastballs and 60 mpg curves...)

[cartman00000001]

I am going to quote this weeks Sports Weekly about Matsui

"(Jose) Reyes was shifted from SS to 2B to accomodate Matsui. That move could be reversed next season unless Matsui improves significantly."

"Through 62 games Matsui leads all SS with 14 Errors."

I haven't been following him this year, but it seems that he's having trouble adjusting. Some people are just like that, ie:Jeff Weaver.

[egswanso]

Originally posted by cujoe169
i don't know, i think what he brings to the ballclub is his leadership more than his bat, i mean his best season was what... 317, with 17 hrs, and about 80 rbis, and 30 steals

that's not a true fantasy threat, think about the better ss, arod nomar renteria young and as of right now even crosby gonzalez (of florida) and everett... they all put up better numbers, and i still think kaz will become a 300/20/80/30 guy... that's not bad for coming from japanese pitching... (85 mph fastballs and 60 mpg curves...)

his best season was '99... he hit .349/.438/.552, with 24hr, 19sb, and 102bi. .317/.389/.462, 17hr, 82bi, and 24sb are his avg.'s over 10 years. of the players you name, nomar's better/similar (if he's not hurt) renteria's worse in every category, and has had a shorter career, young's career just started. if he keeps up what he's doing for the next 10 years, he'll be great, but we'll see if he's anything more, and he's already 27. crosby's a great looking rookie, but who knows if he'll become the player he could be. neither everett or gonzalez are anything special.

realistically, the jeter/arod/nomar trio have been three of the most productive shortstops in the history of the game. it wasnt too long ago that good ss's looked like ozzie smith.

[goyanks225]

I live in NY and let me tell you...

Jeter is one of the best shortstops I have ever seen. He has hit over .300 in I think every season in his career but 1 or 2. But more importantly, he hits the other way and doesn't strike out. He is the best clutch hitter in history, no doubt, and he makes plays in the field that make you wonder if they're even possible to make.

Matsui, on the other hand, is terrible. He can't hit, and looks bad doing it. The Mets told everyone he was FASTER than Ichiro, which he clearly isn't, and his speed is a non-factor because the Mets never send him to steal. The Mets also told everyone that he was going to be one of the best shortstops of all time, but that fact is that I don't think I've seen him make a backhand play all season! and he often throws the ball away from Piazza or whoever is playing first. Bottomline...the Mets had terrible scouts to believe that this player was worth the money they gave him and tell their fans that he is.

[boomboom]

Originally posted by goyanks225
I live in NY and let me tell you...

Jeter is one of the best shortstops I have ever seen.

I think Jeter is one of the Most overrated Players in the history of the game, Living in NY doesnt make you the only expert...you have talked about his leadership/clutch ablility(even thou some stat heads say it doesnt exist.) and that he has hit over .300 each year...but what about his defense, he has no range, and with A-rod on that team, Jeter has no business playing SS, he should be at 2b or DH.

Defense takes a player that is good, and makes them Great...with Jeter, it takes a Great Player, and Makes him GOOD.

How many Gold Gloves does Jeter have?

I would rather have Omar Vizquel in his prime, then Jeter in his. I would rather have Ozzie Smith playing SS then Jeter,

SS is a defense position, which many in Baseball Have forgotten.

[goyanks225]

I'm not saying I'm an expert BECAUSE I live in New York, I'm saying that I watch these guys play every day because I'm in New York and they both play in New York. As to the clutch issue, whether people say it exists or not, there's something magical about Jeter that makes him play better and helps the team play better. Derek Jeter is an above average fielder, I will say. Yes, he makes errors, but he often makes great plays. How many times have you seen him play? I've watched him for over 8 years.

[egswanso]

i lived in new york for good chunks of jeter's career, and have also seen more then my fair share of yankees games.

as much as i defended jeter's hitting ability, his fielding is terrible! Yes, he is a great athlete, but he has no range (most of his diving stops and other acrobatics are on plays a normal shortstop would have just made routinely.) his defensive stats dont lie - they show how bad he is.

that said, i dont know if i agree with boomboom that i'd rather have vizquel... vizquel is a fine shortstop, don't get me wrong, but only if i could make up the offense jeter brings to the game elsewhere... and vizquel was paid a lot less then he is. Arod should be at SS for the Yankees though. He's so much better in the field as to laughable. Jeter would make a fine DH, if half of the yankees team (giambi, williams, lofton, etc.) weren't better DHs then fielders...

[goyanks225]

I'll give you the defense, but I won't give you that A-Rod should be the SS and Jeter the 2B/DH, because they wouldn't have a 3B then and A-Rod has been pretty good over at third. Also, you can't refute the whole thing about Jeter in the playoffs. He is unbelievable, and a very smart player. Division series against Oakland with him running across the infield, for one example. How many other players would have thought to done that?

[egswanso]

true. although i would have tryed jeter at 3B instead of moving arod there first. shitty defense and all, i never said i wouldn't want jeter on my team.

[TwinswillWin]

The Ideal shortstop should have great defense .300 avg 10-15 hrs good speed 20-infinite steals and be able to communicate well with other players on the team.

[goyanks225]

Originally posted by TwinswillWin
The Ideal shortstop should have great defense .300 avg 10-15 hrs good speed 20-infinite steals and be able to communicate well with other players on the team.


Jeter has all of that except the defense. A-Rod has all of that except the leadership because he just joined the team.

[TwinswillWin]

I would listen to A-rod he's HUGE.

[boomboom]

because A-Rod is new, doesnt mean he isnt a leader on the team. He had great leadership skills in Seattle and Texas.

[thejimmyst91]

It isn't that statheads say that clutch hitting exist. It is that stat-heads(like myself) have PROVEN that it doesn't exist. Sorry guys, Jeter is simply a player with a talent ot get On-Base, and a talent to run those same bases. He is a 2.5 Million player making 17...goyanks, do you use the same name over at baseball.com?

[goyanks225]

I don't use baseball.com, what is it?

[thejimmyst91]

Just forus and stuff...thought I recognized your name, but I guess its rather popular.

[TwinswillWin]

Ichiro will probably only hit 20 Hrs if he gets lucky his age is a factor and don't even say look out Bonds. Bonds uses steriods you can see it in his body appearance. So Ichiro isn't a power hitter.

[boomboom]

Ichiro has the power to hit 30home runs, but you would see his batting avg but the way he plays, I wouldnt expect him to hit 20 home runs for a few seasons, because when he hits, he doesnt really drive the ball yet...

As Ichiro gets older, I do expect him to hit a lot more home runs. Because he wont be as fast, and expect him to drive the ball better....I love the way Ichiro plays the game, Great Defense and Great Bat... He is/was the spark plug for the mariners.

Too bad the mariners dont have anything to back him up.