GM24
06-22-2004, 02:36 AM
Seriously, all those guys in the forums over there think OOTP is the best thing since sliced bread. Frankly, I think thats an insult to sliced bread.
I dont get it. OOTP is chock full of bells and whistles, but that only hides the fact that the game engine is elementary and extremely inefficent. The interference is clunky and a real pain to use. Its very difficult to get where you want to go with it. The financial system is still relatively new (it was more or less introduced in OOTP5, before you had a set amount that you could spend) and the salary problems are waaay worse. The game is so slow, all the **** they loaded it with bogs it down.
You have to hire 1 (my mistake) coach for every minor league level and a head scout before you can do anything. You have four lineups to set up, plus depth charts for those lineups. You have 3 minor league levels to worry about to, dont forget. So thats 15-20 minutes before you can start playing. If you're lucky, the game wont crash to the desktop either.
I could go on and on, but I got so frusterated with the game that I couldnt get past May. I might as well have played the demo.
These people dont get it. They judge improvement on these meaningless additions to the game. Oh wow, clutch and leadership ratings. Oh neato, promotions to attract fans. Oh wow a lot of stats. A star system for overall ratings. A radar gun in the PbP, and a new velocity rating. Apparently they added a DIPS (defense independent) method of judging pitchers, even though they still have ratings for AVOIDING HITS! which is defense dependent.
And these same people say that Baseball Mogul hasnt improved, that its been the same game for 7 years. To which I say hogwash. These are the same people who said they wouldnt buy BBM 2002 becuase there were points instead of dollars. I know, becuase now that Marcus Heinson whored his product out to Sports Interactive there has been specualtion of getting an MLBPA license to get the game more exposure. And nobody wants points, they say they wouldnt buy the game. And while its speculation I enjoy stirring up the controversy.
Slowly but surely BBM is adding things to try and attract that OOTP fan, and they're real close to tapping into that market. Theyve added year by year stats, a lahman database, and now an ammy draft. They've changed their ratings to 1-100 and even put in an overall rating and peak rating for each player.
And the game engine, the core upon which the game is built is superior to that of OOTPs. Its tens of times faster, the trade AI is much better, computer GMs spend their money wisely (unless they have to much of it, then its a bit wild) The scouting reports and newpaper headlnes are actually interesting to read, the gamesave doesnt take up 20+ megs, and the game is so much easier to play!
I think now the game has to have just enough depth to attract those kinds of people. Of course, special care has to be taken to maintain the ease of use and still be fun to play. I have some ideas of what these could be, and they dont differ very much from what other people having been wishing for. But I'll just stop writing now. I have to be up in 5 1/2 hours anyway.
I dont get it. OOTP is chock full of bells and whistles, but that only hides the fact that the game engine is elementary and extremely inefficent. The interference is clunky and a real pain to use. Its very difficult to get where you want to go with it. The financial system is still relatively new (it was more or less introduced in OOTP5, before you had a set amount that you could spend) and the salary problems are waaay worse. The game is so slow, all the **** they loaded it with bogs it down.
You have to hire 1 (my mistake) coach for every minor league level and a head scout before you can do anything. You have four lineups to set up, plus depth charts for those lineups. You have 3 minor league levels to worry about to, dont forget. So thats 15-20 minutes before you can start playing. If you're lucky, the game wont crash to the desktop either.
I could go on and on, but I got so frusterated with the game that I couldnt get past May. I might as well have played the demo.
These people dont get it. They judge improvement on these meaningless additions to the game. Oh wow, clutch and leadership ratings. Oh neato, promotions to attract fans. Oh wow a lot of stats. A star system for overall ratings. A radar gun in the PbP, and a new velocity rating. Apparently they added a DIPS (defense independent) method of judging pitchers, even though they still have ratings for AVOIDING HITS! which is defense dependent.
And these same people say that Baseball Mogul hasnt improved, that its been the same game for 7 years. To which I say hogwash. These are the same people who said they wouldnt buy BBM 2002 becuase there were points instead of dollars. I know, becuase now that Marcus Heinson whored his product out to Sports Interactive there has been specualtion of getting an MLBPA license to get the game more exposure. And nobody wants points, they say they wouldnt buy the game. And while its speculation I enjoy stirring up the controversy.
Slowly but surely BBM is adding things to try and attract that OOTP fan, and they're real close to tapping into that market. Theyve added year by year stats, a lahman database, and now an ammy draft. They've changed their ratings to 1-100 and even put in an overall rating and peak rating for each player.
And the game engine, the core upon which the game is built is superior to that of OOTPs. Its tens of times faster, the trade AI is much better, computer GMs spend their money wisely (unless they have to much of it, then its a bit wild) The scouting reports and newpaper headlnes are actually interesting to read, the gamesave doesnt take up 20+ megs, and the game is so much easier to play!
I think now the game has to have just enough depth to attract those kinds of people. Of course, special care has to be taken to maintain the ease of use and still be fun to play. I have some ideas of what these could be, and they dont differ very much from what other people having been wishing for. But I'll just stop writing now. I have to be up in 5 1/2 hours anyway.