Kerry Or Bush ???.

[Doug1972]

Just wanted to get a feel for how the AGML would vote. I am not casting the first vote, I will check later & make my vote then.

[jmarter]

Let's keep the politcal discussion out of this forum. This has caused much grief in some other leagues. Not the place for them.

[Tripleplay]

Originally posted by jmarter
Let's keep the politcal discussion out of this forum. This has caused much grief in some other leagues. Not the place for them.


Agreed. I hate politics!!!! Bad enough I have to see B.Selig from time to time.

[takaplan]

This thread has been moved to the Ejections forum. Discussions regarding politics, religion, etc. generally belong there :)

I apologize to Doug for having to move this thread, but political discussions in league forums have often created unnecessary angst in the past, as jmarter noted.

Feel free to have a lively debate here :)

[jmarter]

Thank you takaplan. Hope you understand Doug. Anyways, I did vote. As a school teacher it isn't much of a choice. :)

[kingmob]

i vote for michael badnarik the libertarian candidate since kerry/bush...the skull n bones cousins is like voting for hitler or stalin

[boomboom]

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[goyanks225]

Bush is a terrible President. Easy choice.

[kingmob]

yeah he is....doesnt matter since he's just a puppet to his globalist masters......the global elite picked edwards for vice dictator
edwards attends bilderberg meeting in italy (http://washingtontimes.com/upi-breaking/20040606-103603-4126r.htm)

[kingmob]

heres a great article by one of the best reporters out there.....
johnnie be good? (http://www.gregpalast.com/detail.cfm?artid=354&row=0)

kerry is a world class wanker....and bush is a world class war criminal....god has cursed us with these skull n bones pricks

[Clay Dreslough]

Originally posted by kingmob
kerry is a world class wanker....and bush is a world class war criminal....god has cursed us with these skull n bones pricks

Hmmm. Wanker or War Criminal. I have "friends" who wank on occasion, but I don't hang out with war criminals...

:)

[kingmob]

Originally posted by Clay Dreslough
Hmmm. Wanker or War Criminal. I have "friends" who wank on occasion, but I don't hang out with war criminals...

:)

actually i digress....they are both war criminals and wankers....kerry up close within .50 cal range .....bush ordering someone else to do the dirty work.....since there both in skull n bones and there initiation into the brotherhood of death is to wack off in a coffin while telling there whole sexual history to there coffin-mates....that makes em wankers.....technicaly

[Deke]

I am curious though Kingmob.... i know you hate them both, but if you HAD to choose one over the other which would it be?

[williethebasset]

He's going to say neither...

[Hash1]

I hate kerry and bush but right now if i had to chose i would vote for kerry. You cant blame bush for going to war because everyone did think there were womd over there but we havent found anything. Even if there were womd there and they moved them we still should of pulled out a long time ago. Im sick of hearing about people dying for no clear reason. I will not vote for a president who is allowing this sh*t to continue. Do i blame bush for starting the war? No, but this sh*t should of ended along time ago. Correct me if im wrong but hasnt this war brought ALOT more terrorism into this world? It seems like every day i here about some new terrorist group. So what has came from this war? Thousands of innocent people have died, No womd has been found, and we have brought alot more terrorism into this world. His speech awhile back saying that the war was over was some of the biggest bs i have ever heard. Yes, there are womd in israel so why are we only in iraq? I come from a family of war veterans and im not against war when there is a legimate reason to be in war. Kerry is scum and a pathological liar who based his campaign around lies about his war experience.( go swift boat veterans!) I almost dont want to vote at all because i dont want to contribute to innocent people dying or having a president who like deke said would sell his own mother to win the election.

[kingmob]

Originally posted by Deke
I am curious though Kingmob.... i know you hate them both, but if you HAD to choose one over the other which would it be?

bush if ya held a gun to my head.....i would vote for the greater of 2 evils simply to keep the spotlight shined on the bush cabal .....that way there is the hope of getting to the bottom of 911 and frog marching these bastards out of office in handcuffs

[kingmob]

Originally posted by Hash1
I hate kerry and bush but right now if i had to chose i would vote for kerry. You cant blame bush for going to war because everyone did think there were womd over there but we havent found anything. Even if there were womd there and they moved them we still should of pulled out a long time ago. Im sick of hearing about people dying for no clear reason. I will not vote for a president who is allowing this sh*t to continue. Do i blame bush for starting the war? No, but this sh*t should of ended along time ago. Correct me if im wrong but hasnt this war brought ALOT more terrorism into this world? It seems like every day i here about some new terrorist group. So what has came from this war? Thousands of innocent people have died, No womd has been found, and we have brought alot more terrorism into this world. His speech awhile back saying that the war was over was some of the biggest bs i have ever heard. Yes, there are womd in israel so why are we only in iraq? I come from a family of war veterans and im not against war when there is a legimate reason to be in war. Kerry is scum and a pathological liar who based his campaign around lies about his war experience.( go swift boat veterans!) I almost dont want to vote at all because i dont want to contribute to innocent people dying or having a president who like deke said would sell his own mother to win the election.

kerry is for this war too....he voted for it

[Hash1]

yeah that is true. Really this country is screwed because kerry and bush are both scum

[kingmob]

Originally posted by Hash1
yeah that is true. Really this country is screwed because kerry and bush are both scum

amen brother.....hash check this out
american dictators (http://www.prisonplanet.tv/articles/august2004/082804dictatorspreview.htm)

[Hash1]

Did Bushs father put sadaam into power? Lets see so many innocent people died because of sadaam and so many innocent people have died because of this war. How many innocent people have died because of the bush family???

[kingmob]

Originally posted by Hash1
Did Bushs father put sadaam into power? Lets see so many innocent people died because of sadaam and so many innocent people have died because of this war. How many innocent people have died because of the bush family???

yes the cia did put saddam into power....first they trained him to assasinate the communists in power in the late 50's in iraq.....then he rose up through the iraqi intelligence service and was our boy in baghdad......he fought the iranians with our backing

[Hash1]

What is this world coming to? I could seriously find someone off the street that would make a better president than bush or kerry. I mean geesh California electing Schwarzenegger for governor( i think thats how you spell it lol).

[boomboom]

Originally posted by Hash1
yeah that is true. Really this country is screwed because kerry and bush are both scum

thats why we need to get rid of the limit of two terms for a Pres....so that we can re-vote Clinton back into office;)

[boomboom]

Originally posted by Hash1
Did Bushs father put sadaam into power? Lets see so many innocent people died because of sadaam and so many innocent people have died because of this war. How many innocent people have died because of the bush family???

yup, lets try Bush for being a War Criminal!

[Hash1]

Homer simpson for president!!!!! Hey if guys like bush and kerry can run why cant homer :D

http://www.compuglobalhypermeganet.ca/images/compuglobal2.jpg

[kingmob]

Originally posted by Hash1
What is this world coming to? I could seriously find someone off the street that would make a better president than bush or kerry. I mean geesh California electing Schwarzenegger for governor( i think thats how you spell it lol).

ah-nold is a for real nazi.....back in ww2 his dad was a brownshirt police chief of his city....ahnold is lord rothschilds BIotch-boy.....back in the 70's ah-nold was in gay pornos and posed for robert maplethorpe doing nudes.....an undisclosed person has them in there possesion.....blackmail?....mebbe


all right fellas heres the RED PILL.....wow im impressed this came from an underground high school paper....thats awesome
RED PILL......watch the intro flash...then read this (http://www.beverlyunderground.com/issue4/rabbithole.htm)


BLUE PILL (http://aids.about.com/b/a/047484.htm)

BLUE PILL (http://www.rxlist.com/rxboard/general.pl?read=1513)

BLUE PILL (http://www.tennessean.com/local/archives/04/04/49731789.shtml)

[kingmob]

just found this ....about the pentagon supposed plane crash
pentagon strike (http://www.freedomunderground.org/memoryhole/pentagon121.swf)

[Hash1]

I had actully read this yesterday about arnold

http://www.google.com/url?sa=U&start=2&q=http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread60012/pg1&e=7385

[williethebasset]

The sickest thing about arnold is that his dad volunteered to be a facist. Hitler annexed austria and arnolds dad had to have volunteered to be in the party.

[kingmob]

Originally posted by williethebasset
The sickest thing about arnold is that his dad volunteered to be a facist. Hitler annexed austria and arnolds dad had to have volunteered to be in the party.

yup thats what he did

[nysteinbrenner]

Hey Mob? Let me ask you a question.

Since your distrust of America is so entrenched, if you could, and assuming they'd actually admit you, what country would you move to in order to get out of the U.S.?

Since the U.S. obviously doesn't measure up to your expectations, what nation does?

[kingmob]

Originally posted by nysteinbrenner
Hey Mob? Let me ask you a question.

Since your distrust of America is so entrenched, if you could, and assuming they'd actually admit you, what country would you move to in order to get out of the U.S.?

Since the U.S. obviously doesn't measure up to your expectations, what nation does?

the ole love it or leave it argument.....puh-lease....i dont distrust amecia ....america is fine its the govt. that is corrupt and getting very tyrannical.....my family moved here after being slaves of the nazis in ww2.....there is no where else to go....if the globalists take us over all ya gotta do is read 1984 to find out what your kids and grandkids are going to endure.......

we have enemies from within....besides steiny you tell whats so great about a country that would murder 3,000+ citizens as a pretext for imperial ambition......in ny last week they rounded up close to 2,000 for no reason.....preemptive arrests
judge holds nyc in contemp of court (http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/september2004/030904judgefines.htm)

we've had 50 million abortions since roe v. wade.....the vacines contain mercury that is dumbing down our kids and making some of them autistic.....half of americans didnt even read a book last year......so tell me why were so great again? i intend to stand up and fight to get our country back

[williethebasset]

Originally posted by nysteinbrenner
Hey Mob? Let me ask you a question.

Since your distrust of America is so entrenched, if you could, and assuming they'd actually admit you, what country would you move to in order to get out of the U.S.?

Since the U.S. obviously doesn't measure up to your expectations, what nation does?

This is what I have to say to the love it or leave it argument: If you didnt like it when Clinton was President, follow your logic. You should have left 12 years ago.

[williethebasset]

Originally posted by kingmob

we've had 50 million abortions since roe v. wade.....the vacines contain mercury that is dumbing down our kids and making some of them autistic.....half of americans didnt even read a book last year......so tell me why were so great again? i intend to stand up and fight to get our country back

There are not 1.7 abortions a year. Thats almost 5,000 per day, and most women that choose to have an abortion would end up having a black market abortion anyways. I support a womans right to an abortion, but it should not be past 4 months, or be used as a contraceptive for prostitutes.

I read books before I go to bed. My bedroom floor is covered with: books and magizines.

[kingmob]

Originally posted by williethebasset
There are not 1.7 abortions a year. Thats almost 5,000 per day, and most women that choose to have an abortion would end up having a black market abortion anyways. I support a womans right to an abortion, but it should not be past 4 months, or be used as a contraceptive for prostitutes.

I read books before I go to bed. My bedroom floor is covered with: books and magizines.

46,250,998 (http://www.teenshelter.org/abortioncount.htm)

[nysteinbrenner]

Originally posted by nysteinbrenner
Hey Mob? Let me ask you a question.

Since your distrust of America is so entrenched, if you could, and assuming they'd actually admit you, what country would you move to in order to get out of the U.S.?

Since the U.S. obviously doesn't measure up to your expectations, what nation does?

Actually 'love it or leave it' never entered my thought process when I asked this. I'm just curious as to what nation's system actually does merit the 'Kingmob Seal of Approval.'

[williethebasset]

Originally posted by kingmob
46,250,998 (http://www.teenshelter.org/abortioncount.htm)

Well either way, I suppose that a lot of people are better off because they didnt have a kid when they were 16.

[williethebasset]

Originally posted by nysteinbrenner
Actually 'love it or leave it' never entered my thought process when I asked this. I'm just curious as to what nation's system actually does merit the 'Kingmob Seal of Approval.'

He never answers direct questions. Those are what the NWO uses in interrogation.:p

[kingmob]

Originally posted by nysteinbrenner
Actually 'love it or leave it' never entered my thought process when I asked this. I'm just curious as to what nation's system actually does merit the 'Kingmob Seal of Approval.'

switzerland

[nysteinbrenner]

Switzerland. Okay. Why? Not to try and trap you into an answer or anything; I'm just curious.

[kingmob]

Originally posted by nysteinbrenner
Switzerland. Okay. Why? Not to try and trap you into an answer or anything; I'm just curious.

the swiss are freedom lovers who refuse to join the tyrannical europeon union......they have no military.....but they do have a standing militia of all able bodies males 18-40 who have automatic weapons and ammo, grenades , and other relevant ordianance.....they have never been invaded

[Steiny]

Originally posted by kingmob
the swiss are freedom lovers who refuse to join the tyrannical europeon union......they have no military.....but they do have a standing militia of all able bodies males 18-40 who have automatic weapons and ammo, grenades , and other relevant ordianance.....they have never been invaded

You mean the same Swiss freedom lovers who cowtowed to the Nazi's during WWII, hiding their holocaust booty and otherwise aiding their cause while proclaiming their neutrality? Oh, okay...

[kingmob]

Originally posted by Steiny
You mean the same Swiss freedom lovers who cowtowed to the Nazi's during WWII, hiding their holocaust booty and otherwise aiding their cause while proclaiming their neutrality? Oh, okay...

the elite swiss oligarch profited off nazi war booty i know that ....how about prescott bush and his cronies selling raw marerials and laundering there cash all the world..... elites profited from the nazis all over the globe....how bout aristotle onnassis shipping goods for both sides and he lost not 1 ship during all of ww2......

bush crime family (http://www.hermes-press.com/crimes.htm)

[Deke]

Originally posted by williethebasset
Well either way, I suppose that a lot of people are better off because they didnt have a kid when they were 16.

Those 46 million 'people' that were aborted sure arent better off.

[metsguy234]

Who the hell bumped this?

[Clay Dreslough]

Who the hell bumped this?Looks like you did.

;)

Actually it looks like all the old polls got bumped. Could be a bug with the new version of vBulletin.

[DarthJaker]

Other, Barrack Obama:p:p;);)

[RedsoxRockies]

Looks like you did.

;)

Actually it looks like all the old polls got bumped. Could be a bug with the new version of vBulletin.

No, someone thought it would be fun to go and vote in some of the polls. It happens a lot, but only in periodic bursts.

[Jeffy25]

kind of funny to see where all the old board members felt back in 04

[Clay Dreslough]

kind of funny to see where all the old board members felt back in 04Heck I voted for Bush in 2000. But in 2003 it was clear to me that he was lying about Iraq ... and the rest is history.

[BINGLEBOP]

kind of funny to see where all the old board members felt back in 04

Most of those old board members are probably dead now.

[Jeffy25]

Most of those old board members are probably dead now.

uh oh, where does that lie our fate in four or five years?

[Alloutwar]

Heck I voted for Bush in 2000.

So, so sad. :(

[Jeffy25]

what's more amazing, is that since this got bumped....bush has earned 3 new votes, and kerry none.

[filihok]

what's more amazing, is that since this got bumped....bush has earned 3 new votes, and kerry none.

I bet one of them was Jaker, that front runner

[TheNamelessPoet]

I voted bush in the poll today and in 2004 and still stand by my vote. we all may make smistakes abut im glad that pussy kerry is/was not in office...

I seriously considered voting Kerry but just couldnt do it.

[Jeffy25]

I voted bush in the poll today and in 2004 and still stand by my vote. we all may make smistakes abut im glad that pussy kerry is/was not in office...

I seriously considered voting Kerry but just couldnt do it.

I have never said that Bush is the greatest example for a Republican president, in fact he was down right one of our worse. But the Democrats could have trotted someone out there better then John Kerry and Al Gore. We weren't really given great choices. Obama would have beaten Bush back in 04, I think that is pretty clear at least to me. Gore and Kerry would have been God awful, not that Bush was great, but they would have been terrible. And if the Democrats would have had either, they may not have Obama today.

[ragecage]

I have never said that Bush is the greatest example for a Republican president, in fact he was down right one of our worse. But the Democrats could have trotted someone out there better then John Kerry and Al Gore. We weren't really given great choices. Obama would have beaten Bush back in 04, I think that is pretty clear at least to me. Gore and Kerry would have been God awful, not that Bush was great, but they would have been terrible. And if the Democrats would have had either, they may not have Obama today.

You silly people, dems and republicans are about the same. If you want real change to happen in this laughingstock called the government, how about thinking outside the box and voting for an independent? Our country is in the toilet because of these two parties, when will people start to see that?

[Arctic Blast]

You silly people, dems and republicans are about the same. If you want real change to happen in this laughingstock called the government, how about thinking outside the box and voting for an independent? Our country is in the toilet because of these two parties, when will people start to see that?

Enough with that making of the sense, rage!

[ragecage]

Enough with that making of the sense, rage!

my apologies, what was i thinking? :)

[Jeffy25]

I just watched W. The oliver stone movie. That is what a fair and balanced opinion of our 43rd president was supposed to be? No wonder liberals hated him so much

[Clay Dreslough]

Most of those old board members are probably dead now.I told the guy at the headstone company to write "Game Over".

[BINGLEBOP]

That reminds me of a friend of mine who "mistakenly" went to Hotmale.com (http://www.hotmale.com) to try to sign up for an email address, instead of Hotmail.com (http://www.hotmail.com).

[Jeffy25]

or how about "pen island.com" when written out it is actually penisland.com not exactly what you thought you were getting when typing pen island

[TheNamelessPoet]

You silly people, dems and republicans are about the same. If you want real change to happen in this laughingstock called the government, how about thinking outside the box and voting for an independent? Our country is in the toilet because of these two parties, when will people start to see that?


my apologies, what was i thinking? :)

:p

[Arctic Blast]

I just watched W. The oliver stone movie. That is what a fair and balanced opinion of our 43rd president was supposed to be? No wonder liberals hated him so much

You expected to find a message of fair balance in an OLIVER STONE movie?! Are you frigging serious??? Jeffy, you're as likely to find fair balance in a Michael Moore film or a Rush Limbaugh broadcast as you are in anything Oliver Stone has ever made.

[Clay Dreslough]

You expected to find a message of fair balance in an OLIVER STONE movie?!I have a secret for all of you. I killed JKF. Seven years before I was born. With my mind.

[gRYFYN1]

I have a secret for all of you. I killed JKF. Seven years before I was born.

Your not from the Dominican are you .. maybe we need to check you birth certificate

[BINGLEBOP]

I have a secret for all of you. I killed JKF. Seven years before I was born. With my mind.

He typed JKF, and not JFK. That's the only reason the CIA hasn't tracked him down to download his brain.

[michaelg123789]

He typed JKF, and not JFK. That's the only reason the CIA hasn't tracked him down to download his brain.
lol really?

[Arctic Blast]

He typed JKF, and not JFK. That's the only reason the CIA hasn't tracked him down to download his brain.

That Clay...GENIUS. They will NEVER look in to his shadowy past so long as he mixes up those letters.

[BINGLEBOP]

It makes me wonder if TheNamelessPoet and DarthJaker are smarter than they portray themselves to be.

Hmmmm, no way. Couldn't be.

[Arctic Blast]

In reality, NamelessPoet is a teetotaler, and Jaker is a long suffering fan of the Pirates, Bengals, Clippers and Islanders.

[ragecage]

In reality, NamelessPoet is a teetotaler, and Jaker is a long suffering fan of the Pirates, Bengals, Clippers and Islanders.

rofl

com on namles wure r u to dfnd urslf?

[BINGLEBOP]

rofl

com on namles wure r u to dfnd urslf?

Is Rongar posting under ragecage's name now?

[TheNamelessPoet]

rofl

com on namles wure r u to dfnd urslf?

sorry just cleaning up the jager I just spilled on my shirt... whats going on here...

[ragecage]

sorry just cleaning up the jager I just spilled on my shirt... whats going on here...

lol, i got mustard stains on mine from all the spam sandwiches ive been eating. (life of the unemployed)

[Clay Dreslough]

lol, i got mustard stains on mine from all the spam sandwiches ive been eating. (life of the unemployed)If you can afford it, stick to the brand-name "Spam". I have a friend that grew up eating "Smeat". One day she discoverd a whole cow eyeball, complete with a 6-inch optic nerve dangling off. Yum (http://www.exploratorium.edu/learning_studio/cow_eye/images/step01_img.jpg).

[BINGLEBOP]

Did she eat it after she discovered it?

[ragecage]

Did she eat it after she discovered it?

lmao, i love you bingle

[Jeffy25]

You expected to find a message of fair balance in an OLIVER STONE movie?! Are you frigging serious??? Jeffy, you're as likely to find fair balance in a Michael Moore film or a Rush Limbaugh broadcast as you are in anything Oliver Stone has ever made.

I was "told" it was a fair and balanced movie before I rented it, my girlfriend told me wether your democrat or not you would like it, this of course is the same person that thinks msnbc and cnn aren't biased. They are just as bad as Fox, come on

[DarthJaker]

Well its a 25-25 tie:D:D

[metsguy234]

I really think Kerry has this one in the bag, guys.

[Jeffy25]

I really think Kerry has this one in the bag, guys.

How?

[DarthJaker]

26-25 John Kerry:p:p

[Jeffy25]

damnit, where have the Bush votes gone?

[OldFatGuy]

damnit, where have the Bush votes gone?

They were never really there.

Just like Florida, 2000.

[HoustonGM]

The more and more that comes out, the less and less I like the Bush administration (and I never liked it to begin with)