the Army isnt showing much love to the troops

[kingmob]

there all sick from DU poisoning.....just wait till there kids are born deformed on a huge scale.....this makes me furious
DU birth defects (http://www.nydailynews.com/front/story/236934p-203326c.html)

[kingmob]

looks like this story went down the memory hole....causalties are mounting and the pentagon keeps lying and americans are dying
130 killed in ramadi (http://www.jihadunspun.net/index-side_internal.php?article=99916&list=/home.php&)

thens theres this story about finding mass graves of foreigners
there lying (http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/september2004/260904massgrave.htm)

[kingmob]

Bodies Of Dead GI's Secretly Hidden In Cyprus

Paul Joseph Watson | April 27 2004

A source in Cyprus, claims 5,000 dead bodies of British and American soldiers from the war in Afghanistan are secretly hidden in a military facility.

The source, a former member of the Cyprus army who wishes to remain anonymous (name known to author), has spoken to security guards who are attempting to blow the whistle.

Before the war in Afghanistan began, the source claims, thousands of empty coffins and modified refigeration units were flown by cargo planes to the British military base in Akrotiri, just outside Limassol.

Shortly after the war began and to this day, witnesses have consistently reported lorry-loads of trucks driving into the base and unloading thousands of flag-draped coffins. Three quarters of the bodies are American and the rest are British. The source estimates 5,000 dead troops are being kept 'on ice' in giant preservation tanks.

The security guards around the facility have been given shoot-to-kill orders on anyone who attempts to enter the base. They are considering smuggling out photos of the coffins but fear risking court-martial.

The source has broken his silence after being disgusted with the vulgarity of this on-going cover-up.

This report has similar hallmarks to past reports of hidden UK and US war casualties. In March 2003, the Pakistan Tribune reported that 500 bodies of UK and US soldiers were secretly hidden in a morgue at Shebhaz Airbase in Jacobabad.

The casualties were from the end of the Afghan war but were being hidden because of the political climate in the run-up to the declaration of war on Iraq.

We will keep in touch with our source with the hope that this cover-up can be exposed. Subscribers to Prison Planet.tv will be the first to receive any new developments

[kingmob]

looks like theres a news blackout going on....from the iraqi resistence reports it sounds like something major is going down.....i wonder what the pentagon's number of mia's are....i bet its more than the official casualty numbers....very disturbing
100's of emericans dead in thurs. attacks (http://www.jihadunspun.com/intheatre_internal.php?article=99930&list=/home.php&)

[williethebasset]

Casualties on both sides are always reported higher than they really are.

WWII is a good example.

[kingmob]

Originally posted by williethebasset
Casualties on both sides are always reported higher than they really are.

WWII is a good example.

big difference is that now we have instantanious media with the internet....in ww2 they had film and news reels....and radio, newspapers...that was it.....no video cameras in ww2

[williethebasset]

The luftwaffe's losses were reported up to 75% higher at some times...

[kingmob]

not sure what your point is.....my point is that if the real losses in iraq were reported i think people would be in the streets

[williethebasset]

The losses are most likley higher than reported, but not as high as theat islamist web site reports.

[kingmob]

Originally posted by williethebasset
The losses are most likley higher than reported, but not as high as theat islamist web site reports.

how do you know? the arab press is the only press on the ground....western media is holed up in the green zone

[williethebasset]

Trusting the Arab media on US casualties is like trusting the US media on "the enemy's" casualites.

[kingmob]

well as you remember since the beginning of the war we stopped counting civilain iraqi casulties.....remember?.....and that report of 135 dead soldiers was from sky news in britain....basicaly the UK fox owned by murdoch

[williethebasset]

Yeah, the civillian body count lead to people going against the war.

[kingmob]

the battle of falluja rages and it doesnt look good for our side acording to arab media in falluja and in the past they have had very accurate reporting

18 explosives laden vehicles in jolan district (http://www.jihadunspun.com/intheatre_internal.php?article=100441&list=/home.php&)

[Deke]

LOL, Arab media accurate? More like massively bias against America.

[kingmob]

Originally posted by Deke
LOL, Arab media accurate? More like massively bias against America.

whatever.....and how accurate would cnn and fox be?......there too busy talking about scott peterson case

[kingmob]

the attack happened yesterday afternoon our time............11pm iraqi time
aljezera story on us all out attack on falluja (http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/DA2FE7D7-FA3C-473B-B094-AC7AF29E392B.htm)

[Deke]

Originally posted by kingmob
whatever.....and how accurate would cnn and fox be?......there too busy talking about scott peterson case

Haha, that they are. What a waste of news time.

[Deke]

Originally posted by kingmob
the attack happened yesterday afternoon our time............11pm iraqi time
aljezera story on us all out attack on falluja (http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/DA2FE7D7-FA3C-473B-B094-AC7AF29E392B.htm)

Theres no way in **** Id ever listen to anything those Al Jazeera idiots ever say, you know that.

[kingmob]

Originally posted by Deke
Haha, that they are. What a waste of news time.

so you out of hand discredit the arab news?......our news is worthless.....seems the arabs on the ground in iraq are the only ones getting the story out

[kingmob]

Originally posted by Deke
Theres no way in **** Id ever listen to anything those Al Jazeera idiots ever say, you know that.

why? cuz bush said they are liars? thats pretty closed minded deke
ok heres cnn..... (http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/meast/11/08/iraq.main/index.html)

check out that part where they say they killed 40 terrorists and 2 were foreign moracan terrorists.....i feel safer already

want me to fing you the icelandic version of the battle of falluja?

[kingmob]

heres a UK report...
i got my kills ....i just love my job (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2004/11/09/wirq109.xml&sSheet=/news/2004/11/09/ixnewstop.html)

correction i found out the real reason to invade falluja.....satan is there
But the enemy has got a face. He's called Satan. He lives in Falluja. And we're going to destroy him." (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/3989639.stm)

[Deke]

Come on, you know darn well Al Jazeera has an agenda, and it has nothing to do with me believing Bush or not. Im sorry, but even though I think theyre flawed as well, Ill take American media ANYDAY over the garbage spewing from those terrorists in Al Jazeera. Seriously, this is like you asking me to believe the German propaganda **** in WW2 while ignoring the American account of what was happening just because the war is actually taking place on the ground in Germany. It just doesnt fly. Maybe thats close minded, but for me to shun the American news in the face of overwhelming evidence that Al Jazeera has a terror bias is silly to an American like me. So were supposed to believe all foreign news now (that absolutely has zero bias and shells out no propaganda) instead of our own news (that is extremely bias and full of propaganda)? Is that what youre saying?

[Deke]

How do you know that CNN story isnt actually TRUE? Oh and Im sure the Icelandic news organzation is really top notch. ;) Come on.

[Deke]

Also, please dont tell me you actually think Al Zarqawi is a good guy that is misunderstood and demonized by the American media. Thats what Al Jazeera thinks.

[kingmob]

Originally posted by Deke
Also, please dont tell me you actually think Al Zarqawi is a good guy that is misunderstood and demonized by the American media. Thats what Al Jazeera thinks.

there is no boogy man named zarqawi and if there was he was reported dead.....
zarqawi is dead (http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,1-1025728,00.html)

[kingmob]

Originally posted by Deke
Come on, you know darn well Al Jazeera has an agenda, and it has nothing to do with me believing Bush or not. Im sorry, but even though I think theyre flawed as well, Ill take American media ANYDAY over the garbage spewing from those terrorists in Al Jazeera. Seriously, this is like you asking me to believe the German propaganda **** in WW2 while ignoring the American account of what was happening just because the war is actually taking place on the ground in Germany. It just doesnt fly. Maybe thats close minded, but for me to shun the American news in the face of overwhelming evidence that Al Jazeera has a terror bias is silly to an American like me. So were supposed to believe all foreign news now (that absolutely has zero bias and shells out no propaganda) instead of our own news (that is extremely bias and full of propaganda)? Is that what youre saying?

deke its all in the definitions of the opposition.....if we call them terrorists and insurgents that means they have no public support from the iraqi people.......on the other hand the reason they dont call them guerrillas is that by difinition guerrillas are a force of the people......once the US calls them guerrillas that means they've lost because in truth we are fighting iraqi rank and file people who are fighting for there homes and familys.......bottom line is that american media is nothing more than propaganda.....arab media is probably propaganda too......but i have lost all faith in american media

[kingmob]

latest form jihad unspun.com
no cakewalk for americans against "lions of falluja" (http://www.jihadunspun.com/intheatre_internal.php?article=100443&list=/home.php&)

[kingmob]

heres chinese media
35 soldiers captured (http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2004-11/08/content_2191504.htm)

chopper shot down (http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=topNews&storyID=6752991&src=rss/topNews&section=news)

reuters and chimese media confirm the arab media.....you want more sources?

[Deke]

Originally posted by kingmob
there is no boogy man named zarqawi and if there was he was reported dead.....
zarqawi is dead (http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,1-1025728,00.html)

Thats exactly what they want you to think. Its exactly what youre always arguing against, in reverse. Lies and fabrications designed to deceive the people over there.

[Deke]

Originally posted by kingmob
deke its all in the definitions of the opposition.....if we call them terrorists and insurgents that means they have no public support from the iraqi people.......on the other hand the reason they dont call them guerrillas is that by difinition guerrillas are a force of the people......once the US calls them guerrillas that means they've lost because in truth we are fighting iraqi rank and file people who are fighting for there homes and familys.......bottom line is that american media is nothing more than propaganda.....arab media is probably propaganda too......but i have lost all faith in american media

Hard to completely believe any media. Ill agree there. The only way we can know the truth is by being there ourselves. I dont, however, feel sorry for any of these people that are supposedly defending their homes when they cut of the head of someone and then we wax their *** in retaliation. Are all of the insurgents over there doing that? Probably not, but a lot are. And those guys need to burn in ****. And dont tell me the beheadings are all staged. Go tell that to Paul Johnson's family. These guys are evil, surely you can agree there.

[kingmob]

Originally posted by Deke
Thats exactly what they want you to think. Its exactly what youre always arguing against, in reverse. Lies and fabrications designed to deceive the people over there.

the fighters in falluja are local people fighting for there homes....this international cia-ada foriegn fighters myth is propaganda and lies.....the fallujans basicly told the US to go fvck themselves

[kingmob]

another interesting article......i think there is truth to this
first order of business.....propaganda (http://www.jihadunspun.com/intheatre_internal.php?article=100442&list=/home.php&)

[williethebasset]

http://www.bushflash.com/irak.html

warning: graphic violence

[kingmob]

im getting sick of seeing dead babies

[williethebasset]

I'm sure that there are a few thousand more, and even more to come with the DU use throughout Fallujah.

[kingmob]

apparantly fishermen are finding large numbers of dead troopers disposed of in this remote river......mostly mercs and illegals who joined the army.........bedoins are finding dead troopers out in the desert being eaten by wolves.......gotta hide the true casualties somehow......this is pathetic....and yes this is a true story.....i have seen pics of dug up troopers
further evidence of mass graves in iraq of dead soldiers (http://www.jihadunspun.com/intheatre_external.php?article=100724&list=/home.php&)

[williethebasset]

Originally posted by kingmob
apparantly fishermen are finding large numbers of dead troopers disposed of in this remote river......mostly mercs and illegals who joined the army.........bedoins are finding dead troopers out in the desert being eaten by wolves.......gotta hide the true casualties somehow......this is pathetic....and yes this is a true story.....i have seen pics of dug up troopers
further evidence of mass graves in iraq of dead soldiers (http://www.jihadunspun.com/intheatre_external.php?article=100724&list=/home.php&)

Thats disgusting, but no surprise to what these men are capable of. A woman my mom was training with had a husband who spent an entire day loading bodies into a C-5 he was to pilot. He said they were covering up losses.

[kingmob]

Originally posted by williethebasset
Thats disgusting, but no surprise to what these men are capable of. A woman my mom was training with had a husband who spent an entire day loading bodies into a C-5 he was to pilot. He said they were covering up losses.

yeah they are.....big time......to have 20k casualties go to landstuhl and claim 1200 deaths is a bunch of BS......even the soldiers that make it back in 1 piece pyscially are going to be emotional wrecks......more vietnam vets died from suicide than died in the war.....or they will make them all cops here......that is a scary thought

[kingmob]

here is what the gi's are going through....this guy would rather kill himself than to go and murder people that dont deserve it
gi threatens suicide over return to iraq (http://www.connpost.com/Stories/0,1413,96%7E3750%7E2566834,00.html)

[williethebasset]

Originally posted by kingmob
more vietnam vets died from suicide than died in the war.....or they will make them all cops here......that is a scary thought

Some cops are nice people...

I never knew that. I don't think as many will commit suicide after this war, people have been desensitized to violence over the last decade or so.

[williethebasset]

Originally posted by kingmob
here is what the gi's are going through....this guy would rather kill himself than to go and murder people that dont deserve it
gi threatens suicide over return to iraq (http://www.connpost.com/Stories/0,1413,96%7E3750%7E2566834,00.html)

Thats awful... I can't imagine myself killing someone unjustly. Even if someone raped or killed one of my friends I don't know if I could kill them, **** them up good, yes, but killing them is different.

[kingmob]

Originally posted by williethebasset
Some cops are nice people...

I never knew that. I don't think as many will commit suicide after this war, people have been desensitized to violence over the last decade or so.

some cops are good but the problem is the good ones dont rise in rank and get shuffled out....if your a pyschopath you get promoted

theres been a ton of guys off themselves after coming home......when your busy waging genocide its hard to look yourself in the mirror or sleep at night.....this is the great tragedy of this godforsaken police action

[kingmob]

Originally posted by williethebasset
Thats awful... I can't imagine myself killing someone unjustly. Even if someone raped or killed one of my friends I don't know if I could kill them, **** them up good, yes, but killing them is different.

thats where brainwashing comes into effect.....most people with a shred of humanity wont kill for no reason......but the military trains mindless killers