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Augie March
02-10-2005, 02:25 AM
I've got Ty Cobb in 1914... I made him 20 years old... and despite the fact that he played in 154 games the past two seasosn, and I have the steal bar all the way to the right, he only stole two bases both years. Any idea why? It's this way across the board... Tris Speak and Joe Jackson stole 8 between the two of them.
Augie March
02-10-2005, 03:31 AM
I've also got Napolean Lajoie in 1907, and he hit .222, and .239 the last two years. Anyone else have a problem like this? Why did I pay $20 for this game?
kennybear
02-10-2005, 01:28 PM
there does seem to be issues with playing from 1900-1950 like you are seeing. Play from the 70's and up . this game is worth the money
liveandletdie
02-10-2005, 04:05 PM
Many of the stats in the early part of the century are like this. Very unrealistic. This is all imbalenced because of the Cy Youngs and Babe Ruths putting out insane numbers that would never happen today. This only happened because the competition wasn't as fearce. I have heard that stats get more realistic once the players stop getting 25-30 wins a year or .450 batting averages. Which was around the 1950s.
Brent
02-11-2005, 12:40 AM
Originally posted by liveandletdie
Many of the stats in the early part of the century are like this. Very unrealistic. This is all imbalenced because of the Cy Youngs and Babe Ruths putting out insane numbers that would never happen today. This only happened because the competition wasn't as fearce. I have heard that stats get more realistic once the players stop getting 25-30 wins a year or .450 batting averages. Which was around the 1950s.
I believe you and I have a different view on baseball history.
Whats insane is the numbers middle infielder's put up today compared to 1914.
No one that had enough at bats to qualify for a batting crown has ever hit .450. The highest average ever is Hugh Duffy at .438 or .440 according to some sources and Rogers Hornsby hit .424 in 1924 for the highest average in the 20th century.
The number of times .400 has been eclipsed since 1900 is similar to the number of times 60 HR's has been eclipsed.
It's all relative.
I believe the reason for lack of steals by Cobb and others is that the AI for Baseball Mogul was created with modern baseball in mind. It's a different style of game compared to the early 1900's. Catchers had more assists when there was so much base stealing going on in the early 1900's. This has inflated the catcher's arm strength to the effect that it shuts down the running game.
My suggestion is to adjust the predicted stats of the players in question to create the result that you want.
LankfordFanClub
02-12-2005, 11:38 PM
Depending on several factors, two players have hit .492.
In 1871, the first year of the National Association (which just about everyone but Major League Baseball considers the first major league), "Long" Levi Meyerle hit .492. Of course, seasons were extremely short then--Meyerle appeared in 26 games--but it was still a batting title.
In 1887 Tip O'Neill hit .492 under the rules of the day--a walk counted as a hit that year. Under the modern rules he hit .435.
boomboom
02-28-2005, 11:02 PM
got into the imput folder....there should be a file called 1914stats...you can change what stats each year will produce......
Clay Dreslough
03-18-2005, 07:52 PM
I agree that SBs are an issue pre-1940. It's something I'm still working on. It's tricky converting stats from any time period into ratings that make sense, and then building a sim that replicates the results for any year. The way it is now, you could put "Ty Cobb,1913" in your 2005Rosters.csv file, and he would be included. I'd be interested to hear how he does.
Anyway, thanks for pointing this out -- you're not the first one -- and it's something I'll try to get fixed.
Clay
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