sunzfan
01-16-2002, 06:28 PM
Kip wells comes up with 12 QS, and a 17-0 record
Benson comes up with 29, and a 20-6 record...
(Hial)
Kris Benson Starts
1:Box score unavailable??? Pirates win 7-2, record now 1-0
2:Loss 3-6 score, 4 Ip, 4 ER, 1 run while in game, 2 after left, no QS, record now 1-1
3:Box score unavailable again, Pirates lose 2-3, record now 1-2
4:Win 2-1 score, 8 Ip, 1 ER, 2 runs while in game, 0 after left, QS, record now 2-2
5:ND, 9-3 score, 6.2 IP, 3 ER, 2 runs while in game, 7 after left, QS, record 2-2, Bailed out
6:Loss, 5-6 score, 4.1 IP, 6 ER, 3 runs while in game, 2 after left, no QS, record now 2-3
7:Loss, 2-3 score, 6.2 IP, 3 ER, 2 runs while in game, 0 after left, QS, record now 2-4
8:ND, 5-4 score, 6 IP, 2 ER, 3 runs while in game, 2 after left, QS, record 2-4,bullpen blewlead
9:Win, 9-6 score, 7 IP, 2 ER, 9 runs while in game, 0 after left, QS, record now 3-4
10:Win, 4-3 score, 8 IP, 3 ER, 4 runs while in game, 0 after left, QS, record now 4-4
11:Win, 3-2 score, 8 IP, 2 ER, 3 runs while in game, 0 after left, QS, record now 5-4
12:Win, 8-2 score, 8.2 IP, 1 ER, 8 runs while in game, 0 after left, QS, record now 6-4
13:Win, 4-3 score, 7 IP, 2 ER, 4 runs while in game, 0 after left, QS, record now 7-4
14:Win, 6-2 score, 6 IP, 2 ER, 6 runs while in game, 0 after left, QS, record now 8-4
15:Win, 1-0 score, 8.2 IP, 0 ER, 1 run while in game, 0 after left, QS, record now 9-4
16:Win, 9-3 score, 5 IP, 2 ER, 7 runs while in game, 2 after left, no QS, record now 10-4
17:Win, 3-0 score, 9 Ip, 0 ER, 3 runs while in game, 0 after left, QS, record now 11-4, shutout
18:Loss, 8-11 score, 5.2 Ip, 5 ER, 4 runs while in game, 4 after left, no QS, record now 11-5
19:Win, 6-1 score, 8 Ip, 1 ER, 6 runs while in game, 0 after left, QS, record now 12-5
20:ND, 2-1 score, 8 IP, 1 ER, 1 run while in game, 1 after left, QS, record 12-5, 19 innings
21:ND, 5-4 score, 4 Ip, 4 ER, 0 runs while in game, 5 after left, no QS, record 12-5, Bailed out
22:Win, 4-3 score, 8.2 IP, 2 ER, 4 runs while in game, 0 after left, QS, record 13-5
23:Loss, 2-4 score, 4 IP, 4 ER, 2 runs while in game, 0 after left, no QS, record 13-6
24:Win, 2-1 score, 9 IP, 1 ER, 2 runs while in game, 0 after left, QS, record 14-6, complete game
25:ND, 8-10 score, 6 IP, 3 ER, 8 runs while in game, 0 after left, QS, record 14-6, bullpen blew lead
26:Win, 12-4 score, 7 IP, 3 ER, 12 runs while in game, 0 after left, QS, record 15-6
27:ND, 7-6 score, 5 IP, 3 ER, 6 runs while in game,1 after left,no QS,record 15-6,bullpen blew lead
28:Win, 12-3 score, 7 IP, 3 ER, 10 runs while in game, 2 after left, QS, record now 16-6
29:Win, 9-5 score, 6.1 IP, 4 ER, 6 runs while in game, 3 after left, no QS, record now 17-6
30:Win, 6-4 score, 7 IP, 3 ER, 5 runs while in game, 1 after left, QS, record now 18-6
31:Win, 3-1 score, 8 IP, 1 ER, 3 runs while in game, 0 after left, QS, record now 19-6
32:Win, 4-0 score, 9 IP, 0 ER, 4 runs while in game, 0 after left, QS, record now 20-6, shutout
Totals:20-6, 133 runs while in game(helps to earn win/prevent loss), 30 runs after left(preserves win if possible/prevent loss), 163 total run support(172 including the 2 lost boxscores), 3 bullben blown leads, 2 bailouts
Notice the number of quality starts does not match with the statistics given in the leaders section. I'm guessing the game defines a quality start as something besides 6 IP with 3 or less ER, perhaps 5 IP with 3 or less?
Pirates won in 25 of his starts
Now Kip Wells Starts:
1:ND, 4-3 score, 8.1 IP, 1 ER, 3 runs while in game, 1 after left, QS, record 0-0, bullpen blew lead
2:ND, 9-5 score, 5 IP, 3 ER, 1 run while in game, 8 after left, no QS, record 0-0, Bail out
3:Box score not available, Rockies lose 1-2, record 0-0
4:Win, 8-0 score, 6 IP, 0 ER, 5 runs while in game, 3 after left, QS, record now 1-0
5:Win, 5-3 score, 8 IP, 1 ER, 5 runs while in game, 0 after left, QS, record now 2-0
6:Win, 9-3 score, 6.2 IP, 3 ER, 8 runs while in game, 1 after left, QS, record now 3-0
7:Win, 3-2 score, 8 IP, 1 ER, 3 runs while in game, 0 after left, QS, record now 4-0
8:ND, 9-7 score, 4 IP, 4 ER, 2 runs while in game, 7 after left, no QS, record 4-0, Bail out
9:ND, 8-5 score, 3.2 IP, 5 ER, 2 runs while in game, 6 after left, no QS, record 4-0, Bail out
10:ND, 3-4 score, 5 IP, 2 ER, 1 run while in game, 2 after left, no QS, record 4-0, Bail out
11:ND, 5-8 score, 7 IP, 1 ER, 5 runs while in game, 0 after left, QS, record 4-0, bullpen blew lead
12:ND, 1-3 score, 8 IP, 0 ER, 1 run while in game, 0 after left, QS, record 4-0, bullpen blew lead
13:Win, 4-3 score, 6 IP, 3 ER, 4 runs while in game, 0 after left, QS, record now 5-0
14:ND, 9-10 score, 6 IP, 3 ER, 2 runs while in game, 7 after left, QS, record 5-0, Bail out
15:ND, 8-7 score, 4 IP, 7 ER, 3 runs while in game, 5 after left, no QS, record 5-0, Bail out
16:Win, 7-4 score, 7 IP, 2 ER, 7 runs while in game, 0 after left, QS, record now 6-0
17:ND, 6-7 score, 5 IP, 3 ER, 1 run while in game, 5 after left, no QS, record 6-0, Bail out
18:ND, 4-3 score, 7 IP, 1 ER, 2 runs while in game, 2 after left, QS, record 6-0, Bullpen blew lead
19:ND, 1-2 score, 8 IP, 1 ER, 1 run while in game, 0 after left, QS, record 6-0,
20:Win, 5-0 score, 8 IP, 0 ER, 5 run while in game, 0 after left, QS, record now 7-0
21:Win, 10-1 score, 8 IP, 0 ER, 10 runs while in game, 0 after left, QS, record now 8-0
22:Win, 7-3 score, 7.2 IP, 3 ER, 7 runs while in game, 0 after left, QS, record now 9-0
23:Win, 7-4 score, 7 IP, 1 ER, 7 runs while in game, 0 after left, QS, record now 10-0
24:Win, 8-1 score, 7.2 IP, 1 ER, 8 runs while in game, 0 after left, QS, record now 11-0
25:Win, 9-3 score, 5 IP, 2 ER, 9 runs while in game, 0 after left, no QS, record now 12-0
26:ND, 6-3 score, 6 IP, 2 ER, 2 runs while in game, 4 after left, QS, record 12-0
27:ND, 8-9 score, 4 IP, 4 ER, 0 runs while in game, 8 after left, no QS, record 12-0, Bail out
28:ND, 9-5 score, 6 IP, 3 ER, 3 runs while in game, 6 after left, QS, record 12-0
29:ND, 6-8 score, 4 IP, 3 ER, 1 run while in game, 5 after left, no QS, record 12-0, Bail out
30:Win, 8-2 score, 7.2 IP, 0 ER, 8 runs while in game, 0 after left, QS, record 13-0
31:Win, 6-5 score, 6 IP, 4 ER, 6 runs while in game, 0 after left, no QS, record 14-0
32:Win, 10-0 score, 8.2 IP, 0 ER, 10 runs while in game, 0 after left, QS, record 15-0
33:Win, 5-3 score, 5 IP, 3 ER, 5 runs while in game, 0 after left, no QS, record 16-0
Totals: 16-0 record(more on that later), 137 runs scored while in game, 70 runs scored after out of game, 207 total run support(208 with missing box score), 4 bullpen blown leads, 9 bail outs, _21_ quality starts(also more later)
Colorado won in 23 of Wells starts
Now on the 16 wins vs 17 wins, take a look at colorados box score for august 15 2005, Wells wins that game and improves his record to 12-0. His next game is august 21, he gets a no decision, next start is the 26th, another no decision, next start is the 31st: no decision, next start sept 5:no decision. Next start sept 11, he gets the win, but now his record is 14-0? Maybe he pitched in relief somewhere and got the win? Or a phantom bug gave him an extra win.
Kip Wells has 21 quality starts by my count, much better than the previous number of 12, as such I believe he is the right choice for Cy young. Now either there is a bug in recording quality starts or they have some really really weird formula for what a quality start is.
If someone wants to relay these possible bugs to clay and the developers via the bugs board be my guest
Just kinda wondering what the actual dictation of a QS is...
Benson comes up with 29, and a 20-6 record...
(Hial)
Kris Benson Starts
1:Box score unavailable??? Pirates win 7-2, record now 1-0
2:Loss 3-6 score, 4 Ip, 4 ER, 1 run while in game, 2 after left, no QS, record now 1-1
3:Box score unavailable again, Pirates lose 2-3, record now 1-2
4:Win 2-1 score, 8 Ip, 1 ER, 2 runs while in game, 0 after left, QS, record now 2-2
5:ND, 9-3 score, 6.2 IP, 3 ER, 2 runs while in game, 7 after left, QS, record 2-2, Bailed out
6:Loss, 5-6 score, 4.1 IP, 6 ER, 3 runs while in game, 2 after left, no QS, record now 2-3
7:Loss, 2-3 score, 6.2 IP, 3 ER, 2 runs while in game, 0 after left, QS, record now 2-4
8:ND, 5-4 score, 6 IP, 2 ER, 3 runs while in game, 2 after left, QS, record 2-4,bullpen blewlead
9:Win, 9-6 score, 7 IP, 2 ER, 9 runs while in game, 0 after left, QS, record now 3-4
10:Win, 4-3 score, 8 IP, 3 ER, 4 runs while in game, 0 after left, QS, record now 4-4
11:Win, 3-2 score, 8 IP, 2 ER, 3 runs while in game, 0 after left, QS, record now 5-4
12:Win, 8-2 score, 8.2 IP, 1 ER, 8 runs while in game, 0 after left, QS, record now 6-4
13:Win, 4-3 score, 7 IP, 2 ER, 4 runs while in game, 0 after left, QS, record now 7-4
14:Win, 6-2 score, 6 IP, 2 ER, 6 runs while in game, 0 after left, QS, record now 8-4
15:Win, 1-0 score, 8.2 IP, 0 ER, 1 run while in game, 0 after left, QS, record now 9-4
16:Win, 9-3 score, 5 IP, 2 ER, 7 runs while in game, 2 after left, no QS, record now 10-4
17:Win, 3-0 score, 9 Ip, 0 ER, 3 runs while in game, 0 after left, QS, record now 11-4, shutout
18:Loss, 8-11 score, 5.2 Ip, 5 ER, 4 runs while in game, 4 after left, no QS, record now 11-5
19:Win, 6-1 score, 8 Ip, 1 ER, 6 runs while in game, 0 after left, QS, record now 12-5
20:ND, 2-1 score, 8 IP, 1 ER, 1 run while in game, 1 after left, QS, record 12-5, 19 innings
21:ND, 5-4 score, 4 Ip, 4 ER, 0 runs while in game, 5 after left, no QS, record 12-5, Bailed out
22:Win, 4-3 score, 8.2 IP, 2 ER, 4 runs while in game, 0 after left, QS, record 13-5
23:Loss, 2-4 score, 4 IP, 4 ER, 2 runs while in game, 0 after left, no QS, record 13-6
24:Win, 2-1 score, 9 IP, 1 ER, 2 runs while in game, 0 after left, QS, record 14-6, complete game
25:ND, 8-10 score, 6 IP, 3 ER, 8 runs while in game, 0 after left, QS, record 14-6, bullpen blew lead
26:Win, 12-4 score, 7 IP, 3 ER, 12 runs while in game, 0 after left, QS, record 15-6
27:ND, 7-6 score, 5 IP, 3 ER, 6 runs while in game,1 after left,no QS,record 15-6,bullpen blew lead
28:Win, 12-3 score, 7 IP, 3 ER, 10 runs while in game, 2 after left, QS, record now 16-6
29:Win, 9-5 score, 6.1 IP, 4 ER, 6 runs while in game, 3 after left, no QS, record now 17-6
30:Win, 6-4 score, 7 IP, 3 ER, 5 runs while in game, 1 after left, QS, record now 18-6
31:Win, 3-1 score, 8 IP, 1 ER, 3 runs while in game, 0 after left, QS, record now 19-6
32:Win, 4-0 score, 9 IP, 0 ER, 4 runs while in game, 0 after left, QS, record now 20-6, shutout
Totals:20-6, 133 runs while in game(helps to earn win/prevent loss), 30 runs after left(preserves win if possible/prevent loss), 163 total run support(172 including the 2 lost boxscores), 3 bullben blown leads, 2 bailouts
Notice the number of quality starts does not match with the statistics given in the leaders section. I'm guessing the game defines a quality start as something besides 6 IP with 3 or less ER, perhaps 5 IP with 3 or less?
Pirates won in 25 of his starts
Now Kip Wells Starts:
1:ND, 4-3 score, 8.1 IP, 1 ER, 3 runs while in game, 1 after left, QS, record 0-0, bullpen blew lead
2:ND, 9-5 score, 5 IP, 3 ER, 1 run while in game, 8 after left, no QS, record 0-0, Bail out
3:Box score not available, Rockies lose 1-2, record 0-0
4:Win, 8-0 score, 6 IP, 0 ER, 5 runs while in game, 3 after left, QS, record now 1-0
5:Win, 5-3 score, 8 IP, 1 ER, 5 runs while in game, 0 after left, QS, record now 2-0
6:Win, 9-3 score, 6.2 IP, 3 ER, 8 runs while in game, 1 after left, QS, record now 3-0
7:Win, 3-2 score, 8 IP, 1 ER, 3 runs while in game, 0 after left, QS, record now 4-0
8:ND, 9-7 score, 4 IP, 4 ER, 2 runs while in game, 7 after left, no QS, record 4-0, Bail out
9:ND, 8-5 score, 3.2 IP, 5 ER, 2 runs while in game, 6 after left, no QS, record 4-0, Bail out
10:ND, 3-4 score, 5 IP, 2 ER, 1 run while in game, 2 after left, no QS, record 4-0, Bail out
11:ND, 5-8 score, 7 IP, 1 ER, 5 runs while in game, 0 after left, QS, record 4-0, bullpen blew lead
12:ND, 1-3 score, 8 IP, 0 ER, 1 run while in game, 0 after left, QS, record 4-0, bullpen blew lead
13:Win, 4-3 score, 6 IP, 3 ER, 4 runs while in game, 0 after left, QS, record now 5-0
14:ND, 9-10 score, 6 IP, 3 ER, 2 runs while in game, 7 after left, QS, record 5-0, Bail out
15:ND, 8-7 score, 4 IP, 7 ER, 3 runs while in game, 5 after left, no QS, record 5-0, Bail out
16:Win, 7-4 score, 7 IP, 2 ER, 7 runs while in game, 0 after left, QS, record now 6-0
17:ND, 6-7 score, 5 IP, 3 ER, 1 run while in game, 5 after left, no QS, record 6-0, Bail out
18:ND, 4-3 score, 7 IP, 1 ER, 2 runs while in game, 2 after left, QS, record 6-0, Bullpen blew lead
19:ND, 1-2 score, 8 IP, 1 ER, 1 run while in game, 0 after left, QS, record 6-0,
20:Win, 5-0 score, 8 IP, 0 ER, 5 run while in game, 0 after left, QS, record now 7-0
21:Win, 10-1 score, 8 IP, 0 ER, 10 runs while in game, 0 after left, QS, record now 8-0
22:Win, 7-3 score, 7.2 IP, 3 ER, 7 runs while in game, 0 after left, QS, record now 9-0
23:Win, 7-4 score, 7 IP, 1 ER, 7 runs while in game, 0 after left, QS, record now 10-0
24:Win, 8-1 score, 7.2 IP, 1 ER, 8 runs while in game, 0 after left, QS, record now 11-0
25:Win, 9-3 score, 5 IP, 2 ER, 9 runs while in game, 0 after left, no QS, record now 12-0
26:ND, 6-3 score, 6 IP, 2 ER, 2 runs while in game, 4 after left, QS, record 12-0
27:ND, 8-9 score, 4 IP, 4 ER, 0 runs while in game, 8 after left, no QS, record 12-0, Bail out
28:ND, 9-5 score, 6 IP, 3 ER, 3 runs while in game, 6 after left, QS, record 12-0
29:ND, 6-8 score, 4 IP, 3 ER, 1 run while in game, 5 after left, no QS, record 12-0, Bail out
30:Win, 8-2 score, 7.2 IP, 0 ER, 8 runs while in game, 0 after left, QS, record 13-0
31:Win, 6-5 score, 6 IP, 4 ER, 6 runs while in game, 0 after left, no QS, record 14-0
32:Win, 10-0 score, 8.2 IP, 0 ER, 10 runs while in game, 0 after left, QS, record 15-0
33:Win, 5-3 score, 5 IP, 3 ER, 5 runs while in game, 0 after left, no QS, record 16-0
Totals: 16-0 record(more on that later), 137 runs scored while in game, 70 runs scored after out of game, 207 total run support(208 with missing box score), 4 bullpen blown leads, 9 bail outs, _21_ quality starts(also more later)
Colorado won in 23 of Wells starts
Now on the 16 wins vs 17 wins, take a look at colorados box score for august 15 2005, Wells wins that game and improves his record to 12-0. His next game is august 21, he gets a no decision, next start is the 26th, another no decision, next start is the 31st: no decision, next start sept 5:no decision. Next start sept 11, he gets the win, but now his record is 14-0? Maybe he pitched in relief somewhere and got the win? Or a phantom bug gave him an extra win.
Kip Wells has 21 quality starts by my count, much better than the previous number of 12, as such I believe he is the right choice for Cy young. Now either there is a bug in recording quality starts or they have some really really weird formula for what a quality start is.
If someone wants to relay these possible bugs to clay and the developers via the bugs board be my guest
Just kinda wondering what the actual dictation of a QS is...