View Full Version : Oakland A's Dynasty 1980 - 1994
cseamon
04-30-2005, 02:48 AM
My first true dynasty attempt, so go softly. I took the 1980 Oakland Team (I'm a big Rickey Henderson fan) and turned them into a juggernaut. I drafted and traded for the likes of Hershiser, Clemens, Gooden, Maddux, Pedro as SP's, I've had McGwire, Palmeiro, Bonds, Piazza & of course Henderson and since that first year my teams haven't won less than 92 games. I've won 8 world series, and my overall record is 1725W-705L (.710 winning percentage). My mogul rating is 105.5.
The attached screenshot shows my best season to date -1994, 145 wins in a season. Royce Clayton hit .400, scored 206 runs, drove in 168 (as the leadoff hitter) and had 283 hits. He didn't even win the MVP, that honor went to Chipper Jones my 3B. He had 179 runs, 196 RBI 243 hits and batted .373.
For pitching, Pedro went 32-1 with a 1.89 ERA, it's the second time I've had a pitcher win 32 games (Gooden did it also 2 yrs prior). Clemens is 306-92 at age 32, Gooden 256-40 at 30. I've never gone into negative cash.
The only thing I've done is draft and trade for players that would perform well historically. I'm going to keep playing at least until Maddux, Gooden & Clemens retire so that I can see if I can get them over 500 wins.
I doubt I can win more than 145 games, but I do have Ichiro & Arod (among others) in the minors, so as my stars become too expensive (I can't have a payroll of more than 100 mil for too many consecutive seasons) I'll trade them for the next big thing.
Anyone care to comment or suggest things to strive for?
cseamon
05-01-2005, 01:28 PM
I guess the team could do better, they won 150 games and lost only 12, and then swept the playoffs.
Pitching stats:
Greg Madduz went 27-0 (31 starts), Clemens 29-2 (34 starts),
Pedro 24-1 (30 starts),
Doc Gooden 20-1 (28 starts) and
Andy Pettite 24-0 (31 games pitched, 25 starts).
Alex Fernandez is a spot starter/long reliever and in 39 games pitched (14 starts) he was 10-1 and also had 8 saves.
Career wise my starters are:
Clemens 361 - 96 (age 33)
Gooden 301 - 43 (age 31)
Maddux 268 - 47 (age 29)
Pedro - 108 - 6 (age 24)
My hitting stats:
Shannon Stewart (DH) in his rookie season had 284 hits in 693 at-bats and hit .410. He scored 197 runs and had 139 RBI's (again from the leadoff position).
Chipper Jones (3B) had 227 hits in 680 at-bats and hit .334. He scored 189 runs and had 205 RBI's on 50 home runs. (He batted third). At age 23 he's played 636 games and has 679 RBI's.
Royce Clayton had 232 hits in 743 at-bats and hit .312. He scored 187 runs and had 213 RBI's. At age 26 he's played in 631 games and has scored 718 runs, driven in 622.
The way some of the guys had developed Ichiro & Arod are still in the minors, possibly next season I'll get them out of AAA. Ichiro's 22 & Arod 20.
I've now won 6 consecutive World Series and 10 overall, and my current record lifetime is 2016 - 738 (.732 winning percentage). My mogul rating is 110.0.
Just to fill the gap last season (1995) my team went 141-21. More to come as the numbers continue to pile up.
cseamon
05-01-2005, 09:58 PM
Won 151 games and lost only 11, and then swept the playoffs.
I changed the picther use so that they started on short rest almost every time. I had done this in earlier years both because of lack of depth and because with 40 starts the pitchers are able to win more games.
Pitching stats:
Greg Madduz went 32-0 (39 starts),
Clemens 31-4 (37 starts),
Pedro 20-1 (22 starts),
Doc Gooden 23-1 (30 starts) and
Alex Fernandez is a spot starter/long reliever and in 35 games pitched (18 starts) he was 16-0 and also had 3 saves.
Tim Hudson also served this role at times and in 15 games pitched (8 starts) he was 6-0 and also had 3 saves.
Career wise my starters are:
Clemens 392 - 100 (age 34)
Gooden 324 - 44 (age 32)
Maddux 300 - 47 (age 30)
Pedro - 128 - 6 (age 25)
My hitting stats:
Shannon Stewart (DH) had 259 hits in 686 at-bats and hit .378. He scored 227 runs and had 154 RBI's (again from the leadoff position).
Derek Jeter (playing 2B) started the season batting 7th, but moved up steadily in the lineup and finished with these stats: 258 hits in 680 at-bats and hit .379. He scored 183 runs and had 177 RBI's.
Chipper Jones (3B) had 213 hits in 600 at-bats and hit .354. He scored 169 runs and had 207 RBI's on 46 home runs. (He batted third). At age 24 he's played 775 games and has 886 RBI's.
Royce Clayton had tough season and was moved down in the order. He managed 191 hits in 663 at-bats and hit .288. He scored 136 runs and had 151 RBI's. At age 27 he's played in 784 games and has scored 854 runs, driven in 773.
Hideki Matsui batted cleaup and had 271 hits in 722 at-bats for .375. He scored 179 runs and had 221 RBI's on 51 home runs in his second season.
I've now won 7 consecutive World Series and 11 overall, and my current record lifetime is 2167 - 749 (.743 winning percentage). My mogul rating is 112.1.
Clemens will be a free agent after this season and wants 25 mil to resign, I'll let him go as a free agent and see what I can bring him back at. He was making 14.85 mil.
The D-backs and Rays come into the league next season, hopefully they don't screw up my pitching attemps and draft one of my 300+win starters.
cseamon
05-03-2005, 11:08 PM
Won 149 games and lost only 13, and then lost only one game in the playoffs (in the world series) because Clemens was injured.
Both Clemens & Gooden's health are down to 58 & 59 respectively, and Clemens sustained an injury and missed about a month and the entire playoffs.
Pitching stats:
Greg Madduz went 31-1 (35 starts),
Clemens 23-1 (26 starts),
Pedro 19-3 (26 starts),
Doc Gooden 27-3 (34 starts) and
Alex Fernandez is a spot starter/long reliever and in 33 games pitched (19 starts) he was 18-0 and also had 3 saves.
Tim Hudson also served this role at times and in 34 games pitched (13 starts) he was 13-1 and also had 1 save.
Career wise my starters are:
Clemens 415 - 101 (age 35)
Gooden 351 - 47 (age 33)
Maddux 331 - 48 (age 31)
Pedro 147 - 9 (age 26)
Alex Fernandez 118 - 12 (age 28)
My hitting stats:
Shannon Stewart (DH) had 293 hits in 655 at-bats and hit .447. He scored 211 runs and had 161 RBI's (again from the leadoff position). Over his career to date (2016 at-bats) he's batting .415
Royce Clayton had a resurrgence and was moved back up to #2 in the lineup. He managed 230 hits in 702 at-bats and hit .328. He scored 175runs and had 150 RBI's. At age 28 he's played in 942 games and has scored 1030 runs, driven in 923. I refused to pay him what he wanted and he subsequently signed with Detroit for 18.0 mil a season. I've got Miguel Tejada to slide into the SS spot in his place.
Hideki Matsui batted cleaup and had 260 hits in 734 at-bats for .354. He scored 176 runs and had 222 RBI's on 58 home runs in his third season. He was making 15.9 mil in arbitration and so I traded him to Cincinati and now have Lance Berkman poised to take over in LF after hitting the cover off the ball in the minors for 3 seasons.
Derek Jeter (playing 2B) had 226 hits in 682 at-bats and hit .331. He scored 175 runs and had 176 RBI's.
Chipper Jones (3B) had 212 hits in 642 at-bats and hit .330. He scored 173 runs and had 144 RBI's on 33 home runs. He suffered a broken neck vertebra and missed the last 7 games of the season and the entire playoffs, but will be healthy for the start of the next season. I was tempted to let him go and Put either Troy Glaus or Eric Chavez in but was able to lock in his contract at 18 mil so we'll see how long I hold onto him. I'd like to have him get 3-4 more years of 200+ RBI's before he's 30 and then maybe I'd shoot for 3000 RBI career. At age 25 he's played 928 games and has 1030 RBI's.
I've now won 8 consecutive World Series and 12 overall, and my current record lifetime is 2316 - 762 (.752 winning percentage). My mogul rating is 113.9.
Clemens was let go after last season but I signed him as s free agent at 20.1 mil for 4 seasons (I'll likely regret that if he can't stay healthy more than 26 starts per season, but he may get close to Cy Young's 511 career victories.
cseamon
05-03-2005, 11:10 PM
Won 150 games and lost only 12, and then lost only one game in the playoffs (in the world series).
Both Clemens & Gooden's health are down to 51 & 54 respectively.
Pitching stats:
Greg Madduz went 30-5 (40 starts),
Clemens 29-0 (34 starts),
Pedro 25-1 (35 starts),
Doc Gooden 27-3 (34 starts) and
Alex Fernandez is a spot starter/long reliever and in 40 games pitched (9 starts) he was 7-0 and also had 5 saves.
Tim Hudson also served this role at times and in 27 games pitched (5 starts) he was 6-0 and also had 3 saves.
Career wise my starters are:
Clemens 444 - 101 (age 35)
Gooden 386 - 48 (age 3)
Maddux 361 - 53 (age 32)
Pedro 172 -10 (age 27)
Alex Fernandez 125 - 12 (age 28)
My hitting stats:
Shannon Stewart (DH) had 176 hits in 518 at-bats and hit .340. He scored 142 runs and had 98 RBI's. He was injured for almost two months. Over his career to date (2524 at-bats) he's batting .401
Jermaine Dye took over for me for Hideki Matsui and batted 5th while playing right. He had 265 hits in 704 at-bats for .376. He scored 227 runs and had 197 RBI's on 59 home runs in his third season.
Derek Jeter (playing 2B) had 265 hits in 704 at-bats and hit .376. He scored 227 runs and had 197 RBI's on45 home runs. He’ll likely not be here to start next season as he will probably command 20+ mil after arbitration.
Chipper Jones (3B) had 233 hits in 699 at-bats and hit .333. He scored 188 runs and had 173 RBI's on 33 home runs. At age 26 he's played 1087 games and has 1203 RBI's.
I've now won 9 consecutive World Series and 13 overall, and my current record lifetime is 2466 - 774 (.761 winning percentage). My mogul rating is 115.6.
Gooden was let go after last season but I signed him as s free agent at 18.5 mil for 4 years. I included a no trade clause as I figure being just 114 wins short of 500 it will take 4 seasons to get there.
boomboom
05-04-2005, 09:25 AM
Originally posted by cseamon
My first true dynasty attempt, so go softly. I took the 1980 Oakland Team (I'm a big Rickey Henderson fan) and turned them into a juggernaut. I drafted and traded for the likes of Hershiser, Clemens, Gooden, Maddux, Pedro as SP's, I've had McGwire, Palmeiro, Bonds, Piazza & of course Henderson and since that first year my teams haven't won less than 92 games. I've won 8 world series, and my overall record is 1725W-705L (.710 winning percentage). My mogul rating is 105.5.
The attached screenshot shows my best season to date -1994, 145 wins in a season. Royce Clayton hit .400, scored 206 runs, drove in 168 (as the leadoff hitter) and had 283 hits. He didn't even win the MVP, that honor went to Chipper Jones my 3B. He had 179 runs, 196 RBI 243 hits and batted .373.
this is one reason why Clay never wanted to implement historical rookies....because you know who will be good...kind of like having an unfair advantage.....
BTW: did you edit any of these players? they seem to have god like stats
cseamon
05-04-2005, 12:15 PM
I didn't edit anyone, I tried not to *cheat*. I think that the stats are a combination of great support around them in terms of offense, and also the fact that I had almost all of the potential #1 starters so the competition didn't stand much of a chance.
I agree that having advance knowledge of a players potential isn't fair, but don't understand why more players can't develop into superstars given the right environment and development. I invest in scouting and development so that each player can be the best possible, so one could assume that anyone I draft could improve to this "god-like" level. The reason I was reporting their stats was because they are so outrageous. I haven't had guys hitting 75 home runs (I used to in BBM2k5) and in 2001 I think Giambi was the first computer player to break 60 (4-5 guys have now broken 50). Most of my guys aren't hitting 40+ home runs, but they are getting on base either by hits or walks (sometimes 150 walks is common for multiple players on a team I have) and I'm sure that the game takes into account how pitchers fare with men on base. I've scored 1500 runs in a season a couple of times, and that's what I find crazy.
I think the inverse of that is Clemens, Gooden, Maddux & Pedro (and everyone else) have had to face fewer of the potential offensive threats as I have most of them, or when I trade them away I do make attempts to send them to the NL or at the least to a team that won't hold on to them (i.e. not the Yankees or anyone in my division). The next season I run if Clemens is healthy should be the one that he surpassed Cy Young for most career victories. He is already the all-time strikeout king (Nolan Ryan stopped in 1990 I think and only finished with ~3970 or so.
I can detail the stats more if you are interested, let me know if you would like that.
raysheff
05-05-2005, 06:58 PM
You do not say what level of difficulty you are playing on.
Is it FAN?
cseamon
05-05-2005, 09:27 PM
I've got it on Mogul level. I didn't change any of the settings from the league menus, other than computer offering trades. I have tinkered with the Team strategies though depending on the makeup of my team.
I have been playing Baseball Mogul since Baseball Mogul 99, and generally I'd say I don't maintain a consistent set of players. I usually get attached to a couple of players as a core group but trade people before they end up costing too much. The wrinkle in this version is that some players get arbitration after only 2 seasons in the majors because of how long I keep them in the minors, and so I'm forced to trade them much sooner than before.
Keep the questions coming. I've played another 2-3 sesaons since my last post and have continued to win, but my wins & stats have dropped (my starters are much older and I've scaled back my payroll. I just drafted and think that the this is the last draft with players that will be real major leaguers.
More updates to come soon enough.
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