cheating at beta 102 hourly

[Sappy05]

Texas Rangers gets best players for scrub WITHOUT GIVE AROD OR IROD UP!!! and they made 5 deals with angels,Mariners,DBacks and more and Its VERY VERY CHEATING AND im pissed off im florida marlins i made one even trade and i dont want rangers to win champion because HE DONT DESVERED IT :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

[Sappy05]

sorry! its beta 106 hourly not 102 sorry!

[RalphieN]

I'm with you Sappy!

I realize that this is just a beta test but come on, a week into the season and one team is already an all-star team.

Not only that, he's losing a bunch of money because of his payroll which means he'll likely dump the team after one season. AND if you look at the teams he traded with, most of them are run by owners with similar names as his or have already been abandoned since the trades.

I'm sure I'll stick it out and make the best of it but it is hard to beta test a game that is being abused by one of the owners making it a little unrealistic.


RalphieN/Detroit

[SenorPelota]

My league is Beta 102. You had me worried there for a little while.

[imchar]

I'm with you on this one guys. I'm not from your league, but I've seen others with the same situation. I think there isn't much to do about it...only that those owners are to blame. They should consider the fact that if they just wanna play this game for a season...not to mention unrealistically...then abandon it, they should just go with Triple Play 2001 or something. It makes it extremely unrealistic and unfair to the other teams that are trying to make the best of this beta testing. What the **** is the fun with having a 2k+ payroll, winning the championships due to cheating, then leaving. I have no explainations for these pathetic cheaters.

There's my 2 cents...

Charlie

[Japherwaki]

I don't have much of a problem with people building a team (legitimately) of players with a payroll far beyond what they can support. I have a problem with people doing that, then abandoning their team. I think maybe owners shouldn't be able to leave their team until it is operating in the black again, or suffer penalties when leaving a team in the red.

I'm the owner of the Tampa Bay Devil Rays in league E. A few seasons back, I put together a team through free agency far beyond what my city could support (about 500 points). But I also told myself before I did that that I would stick with that team at least until I pull it back out of the red. I'm paying for it now, with a team that is about 100 points in debt, and a gloomy future ahead. I've already traded away most of my superstars, and am in the process of rebuilding. It will probably take me a few years to dig myself out of this hole. But when it does, I should have some decent prospects. It's kinda like the Marlins a few years ago. They built a great team, beyond their ability to support it, and they payed for it with a few dismal years afterwards. But when they dumped their superstars, the got some good prospects in return, and they're a decent team again.

Oh and if anyone is curious, not only did my gamble not work, it failed miserably. My team didn't break .500. But hey, that's why I have other leagues. Those cheer me up.

Japherwaki

[RalphieN]

I'm not opposed to people exceeding what their budget should allow either. That part is a gamble but certainly part of the game.

The main issue here is the actual trades. Texas managed to trade no-name scrubs for Randy Johnson, Kevin Brown, Curt Schilling, Chan Ho Park, Jamie Moyer, Trevor Hoffman, Matt Mantei, Jeff Nelson, Zazuhiro Sasaki, Byung-Hyun Kim, Freddy Garcia, Ryan Klesko, Troy Glaus, Gary Sheffield, Darin Erstad, Ichiro Suzuki, Luis Gonzalez, Mark Kotsay, Phil Nevin and Bret Boone.

Several of these teams who traded with Texas have owners with remarkably similar names as the owner of Texas. The owner of Texas is listed as "jotasue" where the owner of Seattle(who traded away Jamie Moyer, Jeff Nelson, Zazuhiro Sasaki, Freddy Garcia, Ichiro Suzuki and Bret Boone) is named "jota". Anaheim (who donated Troy Glaus and Darin Erstad) has no name and was already abandoned by it's owner, Los Angeles(who gave away Kevin Brown, Chan Ho Park and Gary Sheffield) is named "a" and Arizona(donator of Randy Johnson, Curt Schilling, Matt Mantei, Byung-Hyun Kim and Luis Gonzalez) is named "john77". Amazingly enough not one of these teams has a contact. San Diego is owned by "jasonjonathon" and does not have a contact either.

It all seems fishy to me.:confused:

[wordc]

Think of it this way- right now, this is free. It's the most fun I've had for paying nothing since my wife got pregnant. This is the test, we're all the pigs trying to weed out the thiefs. When the show is truly operational, we've put in our two cents and help build this thing.

I get where you're coming from, but there's hardly any chance of a guy paying 9.95 a month (or whatever it'll be) for several teams in one league just to push one team over the hump. He'd have to pay about forty bucks to win the league. Per month/season! YIKES!

And, also remember that you can mess his season up...

[wordc]

Think of it this way- right now, this is free. It's the most fun I've had for paying nothing since my wife got pregnant. This is the test, we're all the pigs trying to weed out the thiefs. When the show is truly operational, we've put in our two cents and help build this thing.

I get where you're coming from, but there's hardly any chance of a guy paying 9.95 a month (or whatever it'll be) for several teams in one league just to push one team over the hump. He'd have to pay about forty bucks to win the league. Per month/season! YIKES!

And, also remember that you can mess his season up...

[skaye]

I took over Cincinatti in Beta 91 a while back and the previous owner had clearly played scorched earth. He traded Griffey and everyone else of value away for nothing. As a result, I inherited a team of no hopers. At first, I was a bit put off by that, but then I realised that I was totally in last place and that I'd try to rebuild over the coming seasons. I now have a pile of cash and the season is ending (I escaped last place in my division which was fun) so I hope to move forward. This is my favourite game thus far!

I also manage Toronto in Beta 35. What a nightmare! I had the high payroll of the Jays, plus Frank Thomas on 80 point/per and Richie Sexson on 58 points/per. Not to mention Randy Johnson and Pettite in the starting rotation. Worst of all, we didn't win. We're into a new season (my first running the team) and just past the All-Star break, I'm 120 points in the hole. I've done a salary dump (high priced players to computer teams for prospects) and hopefully we'll still win the wild-card. I enjoy this situation as well.

The game is fantastic fun, some people cheat and we all see it. For me, the fun part is trying to overcome the cheating and rebuilding a better team as a result. I'm more interested in how my team will do in three seasons than right now, that's the challenge.

[kareemjg]

This is a possible solution concerning the Managers that like to utterly ruin a team finances in the chase for the title. My idea is to introduce a “governing body” concept into the team design. The g.b will rate the manager during the season and after the season is over. They will look at things such as wins, lost, finances, fan appeal etc. After each pivotal game they can even send the manager a letter congratulating or denouncing the teams performance the previous night. Anyhow.. this is not my main point but you can see how this simple change could be used to add more personality or a bond, if you will, towards the team. The main thing is that the g.b will be able to fire you from that team if it feels that you are doing a terrible job or drastically ruining the team future. These firing limits could be quite broad so that you will really have to be putting the team’s future in jeopardy before you could get fired. Here is an example to put it all in perspective.

Lets say I’m the manager of the St.Louis Birdies. The fans are coming.. cash is decent and I’m just slighty over budget and doing average in my league. So far my rating with the g.b is satisfactory. Over the next few weeks I start buying up the most expensive contracts I can and not doing anyhing else to ofset the cost.. eventually my team is starting to lose chunks of cash out the ash.. my rating with the g.b starts to decline since they are not happy with how I’m managing my teams finances and I start getting threatening emails from them that my job is in danger if I don’t turn stuff around.. I ignore them and still continue to bankrupt my team. So the computer fires me and I’m banned from coach that particular team for the next four seasons or so. Plus this leave a negative mark on my coaching record.
Times fired: 4
Reason Fired: Winnings : 0%
Finical Handling:100% (fired all 4 times for this reason)
City Support: 0%
So next time I try to take over a team that is fiscally healthy it will look at my managing record and will probably tell me that they are concerned about my most recent history over managing money. I know some of you won’t like this approach but it would provide accountability to the managers and also add some additional elements to the game.

Kareem

[Bad_Ash]

I like that idea kareem.

Badash